Diogo Ribeiro Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Excuse me, I seem to have entered the backup server of Wikipedia. I was looking for the 'Books' topic on the Obsidian forums... In any case, I've begun reading Lovecraft stories. I believe I've stumbled on all of them, free of charge, in a large text file at Project Guttenberg while looking for his Cthulhu stories. I've broken them all down into individual Wordpad files and am having some fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 I haven't got around to updating the wiki (yet ), as I just wrote all that summary out for the first time. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 But, don't forget, there was a lot 'suddenly' happening around 600BC: Confucius; Buddha; Lao-tze and Daoism; Zoroaster and dualism; the Babylonians indentured the Jews, as well as the Greek change from the Mycenean matrilineal to Olympian patrilineal civilization ... so I don't think any localized theories (fish, temperatures, etc) can be applied with any confidence. Certainly one of the most unwanted intellectual inheritances from the Greeks was racism. What do you mean by intellectual inheritance? Western culture didn't get racism from the Greeks, even as an idea. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 Meaning the Greeks were particularly inured with the racist idea that Greeks were above all the other 'Barbarians'. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Feast of Crows... Song of Ice and of fire. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xard Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 A History of God: The 4000-Year Quest of Judaism, Christianity and Islam That's what I was about to get. Then I realised I really couldn't afford it. Libraries, don't fail me now! Also, I've been reading a lot of Le Guin lately How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted April 24, 2007 Author Share Posted April 24, 2007 A History of God: The 4000-Year Quest of Judaism, Christianity and Islam That's what I was about to get. Then I realised I really couldn't afford it. Libraries, don't fail me now! Also, I've been reading a lot of Le Guin lately I've got that book, if it's the one written by Karen Armstrong. I started it about ten years ago, though I will probably get around to reading it (properly) in the next month or so (given my current rate), if I can fit it around my studies, of course. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xard Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 A History of God: The 4000-Year Quest of Judaism, Christianity and Islam That's what I was about to get. Then I realised I really couldn't afford it. Libraries, don't fail me now! Also, I've been reading a lot of Le Guin lately I've got that book, if it's the one written by Karen Armstrong. I started it about ten years ago, though I will probably get around to reading it (properly) in the next month or so (given my current rate), if I can fit it around my studies, of course. Yeah, that one How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mayyn Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 star trek Q-squared. its a damn good book When you are suffering, know that I have betrayed you....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Architect Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 (edited) Foyster and Carr Edited April 25, 2007 by The Architect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share Posted May 4, 2007 1421: The Year China Discovered the World (Gavin Menzies) The main criticisms, as far as I have read, are from (seemingly) disgruntled academics who are more envious of a "non-historian" making such a seismic revelation about world history, and are restricted to sniping details ... from the (comprehensive) list of evidence in the appendices it is evident to me that there is something to these claims. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 star trek Q-squared. its a damn good book Ah! A title I recognize in this thread! That's an entertaining read - kind of spins your head around a bit; always loved Q. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krookie Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 I'm just about through with Perks of Being a Wallflower. It's kind of depressing. I don't recommend it unless you're writing a research paper on teenage suicide, or teens dealing with their sexuality. Cause that's why I'm reading it. It's really good anyway. And it was published in like 1992 or something, so I'm good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted May 9, 2007 Author Share Posted May 9, 2007 Imagining Imaginary Numbers (Especially the Square Root of Minus Fifteen) (Barry Mazur) I don't know about you, but I always harboured a nagging irritation with the arbitrariness of imaginary numbers and the geometry of the complex plane. I think Mr Mazur's concluding chapter contains a succinct summary, so I have collected it here, below. The number i = √-1 is identified with the point whose coordinates are (0,1); that is, with the point 1 unit north of the origin. Recall that we chose to view "multiplication by √-1" as a rotation by 90 degrees counterclockwise about the origin. A good test of whether we have understood this passage from complex numbers to points on the plane is to ask ourselves what would be different if we had identified "multiplication by √-1" as a rotation of the plane 90 degrees clockwise; or, what would be the same, 270 degrees counterclockwise? The brief answer here is that nothing whatsoever would change, except for the curious fact that i would be playing the role that -i plays in our identification, -i would be playing the role that i plays, and more generally, the complex number a - bi would be playing the role that a + bi plays. Behind this lies a surprise, and a curious mirror. There is no intrinsic (algebraic) way of distinguishing +√-1 from -√-1. Each of them, of course, is a square root of -1. The only distinction between them is given by their names, and our choosing to put +i north of the origin and -i south of it. We could have reversed our choice, provided we kept track of that, and worked consistently with this other choice. These entities, +i and -i, are twins, and the only breaking of their symmetry comes from the way in which we name them. Imagine the analogous moment when parents of newly born identical twins choose names for their two children, thereby making the first, and immensely important, distinction between them. A reader of an early draft of this book asked why I called +i and -i twins, but did not, for example, call +1 and -1 twins. Here is why. The number +1 is distinguished from the number -1 by some purely algebraic property (for example, it is equal to its square), while there is no analogous property, described entirely in terms of addition and multiplication, that distinguishes +i from -i and yet does not, either directly or indirectly, make use of the names we gave to them. The complex numbers a + bi and a - bi are called conjugates. And the act of "conjugation"—that is, passing from a complex number to its conjugate (or equivalently, reversing the sign of the imaginary part of a complex number)—is a basic symmetry of the complex number system. There are other number systems that admit a bewildering collection of symmetries, of internal mirrors. One of the great challenges to modern algebra is to understand, and use, these internal mirrors. PS I know that there is no reason to associate the imaginary dimension with the y-axis (it could just as easily be the z-axis, or indeed any plane at right angles to the real plane ... ) OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 I'm just about through with Perks of Being a Wallflower. It's kind of depressing. I don't recommend it unless you're writing a research paper on teenage suicide, or teens dealing with their sexuality. Cause that's why I'm reading it. It's really good anyway. And it was published in like 1992 or something, so I'm good. The film 'Sonatine' made in 1984 covers this subject really well. If you're interested. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 1421: The Year China Discovered the World (Gavin Menzies) The main criticisms, as far as I have read, are from (seemingly) disgruntled academics who are more envious of a "non-historian" making such a seismic revelation about world history, and are restricted to sniping details ... from the (comprehensive) list of evidence in the appendices it is evident to me that there is something to these claims. I've been teaching my students for years that the Chinese were way ahead of Europe when it came to nautical exploration. Zheng He led huge expeditions. But the Ming dynasty isolated China after his death. I'd say the real issue is that China had plenty of resources, whereas Europe was hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted May 10, 2007 Author Share Posted May 10, 2007 It's not clear whether the 1421 hypothesis is sound, though there does seem to be a lot of circumstantial evidence (including some DNA evidence). Gavin Menzies is either a very amateur historian with no idea about scientific method, or a complete quack. Certainly he has stirred up a hornet's nest of opposition, mainly from the snotty-nosed academics who don't appreciate being scooped by a civilian. The book is, though, just a huge list of evidence that he has collected, and his inductions. Even if you fault his logic, there is an enormous amount of evidence to be explained, and the best that academics seem to be able to do is nit-pick. I found it humorous that the book was released in the US as 1421: The Year China Discovered America. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 So why do the French hate the English? We are in the year 1415. It is the end of the Middle Ages. Nations don't exist, only fiefdoms of kings, princes and feudal overlords, with their inherited right to conduct private wars and coin money. The cathedral builders have lost their faith, plague has invaded the Continent, and the countryside is sick of war OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Just finished The Watchmen. ****ed up, it is. Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted May 13, 2007 Author Share Posted May 13, 2007 The Hinge Factor (Erik Durschmied) OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgonzalez164 Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Stranger in a Strange Land (uncut version) - Robert Heinlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qazplm Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I'm reading The mad ship by Robin Hobb and It by stephen king both of them are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUIX Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 The Histories - Tacitus. I just wrapped up The Annals. Great stuff. "For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious pretences- either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have done us- and make a long speech which would not be believed; and in return we hope that you, instead of thinking to influence us by saying that you did not join the Lacedaemonians, although their colonists, or that you have done us no wrong, will aim at what is feasible, holding in view the real sentiments of us both; since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 The Sumerians: Their History, Culture and Character. I am reading it because history is a subject I enjoy reading plus I need background information for a story I am writing. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share Posted May 15, 2007 Hey, that looks pretty good. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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