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Not sure if this has been done yet, but here goes:

 

General Theoretical Configuration to KOTOR3:

 

KOTOR3 primarily takes place in "force dead" regions of the unknown regions. All "New" planets with "new" (aka not seen in SW before) aliens (like Rakatan, Trandoshians, etc. Really need only approx 6 races if going with the usual starter world, 4 world, finisher world theme)

 

Timeframe is 5 years (common SW timeframe) after KOTOR2, approx 10 years after KOTOR1...

 

Opposition would be either the "true Sith", or, if LA won't go with that, the obligatory puppet empire of the True Sith with plans to attack the still rebuilding Republic. Said opposition will be primarily non-force sensitive due to lack of force at location, however, the option to use "Force stand ins" such as mental powers, mutations, fancy cybernetics that unleash lightning / wave pulses etc. to mimic Force abilities exist (and can possibly be adapted to "Jedi-fy" other PCs)

 

Main PCs are Revan & Exile, with the Droids (T3 & HK, maybe G0T0, outside chance of Remote being sent to help Revan), along for the ride. Remaining party slots to be filled via "local aquisition" of PCs.

 

Backstory should be written around "Canon", which, if I've read correctly, is LSM Revan DSF Exile. Plotline should be malleable enough to have 4 renditions (canon, LSR/LSE, DSR/DSE, DSR/LSE). Gender only affects he/she commentary & flashbacks to love interest, both relatively minor points in the execution of the plot, if even called for at all.

 

Primary Motivations: LS characters seek to save Republic, DS characters seek to destroy / subdue / take over threat to preserve "their" Empire/Republic. In cases of cross motivations, the LS character sees DS character as necessary evil & redemption chance, while DS character sees LS character as tool & potential turned ally. This allows all 4 plot stories to be dovetailed together nicely...

 

Levels/classes/skills:

Revan - L1 soldier/scout/scoundrel (Player choice or culled from save) due to lack of Force & atrophy of original skills. Keeps uploaded stats / new Revan gets bonus points. Feats reset due to atrophy, possibly allowed to keep lightsaber use (and saber) due to extraordinary practice with it.

Exile - Having severed ties to KOTOR2 party, the Exile is right back at where he started KOTOR2. Exile class is Player choice/culled from save, and starts game as only Jedi available. Brought lightsaber with him...

 

Party to face aforementioned enemies:

Revan, Exile, Droids (HK47, T3, G0T0, Possibly Remote as assistant to Revan / Exile much as he helped Bao-Dur) aboard Ebon Hawk, which brings group to the field. One "local" per planet is drafted into party, preferably all aliens (so 4-6 aliens, 2 main PCs, 2-3(4 if remote is a separate droid) for approx. 10 people in Party, just about the same amount as was in KOTOR2.

 

Potential Plot Elements:

Revan reprising leader of Mandalorian War war as he is attempting to ferment rebellion in unknown region, Exile comes along and helps Revan inspire the locals & is "field commander" aka General.

Ways to give characters force powers, whether it's Exile's Wound passing around or being inflicted on someone else, finding ways to reconnect to force over long distances, Revan actually being a force battery and not knowing it till appropriately critical moment, removing the source of the region's force barrier, etc. etc.

Explore the relationship between Revan/Exile's actions in Mandalorian War vs Jedi request / potential plans.

Surprise visits by prior PCs - Canderous/Mandalore most likely, but any number of them can show up, like Carth bringing a ship / small fleet, Bastilla/Handmaiden-Diciple/Pick-a-Jedi's new council also heading out instead of replicating prior council's inactivity, etc.

 

Oh, it'll be an X-Box 360 / PC exclusive... :)

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Not sure if this has been done yet, but here goes:

 

General Theoretical Configuration to KOTOR3:

 

KOTOR3 primarily takes place in "force dead" regions of the unknown regions. All "New" planets with "new" (aka not seen in SW before) aliens (like Rakatan, Trandoshians, etc. Really need only approx 6 races if going with the usual starter world, 4 world, finisher world theme)

 

Timeframe is 5 years (common SW timeframe) after KOTOR2, approx 10 years after KOTOR1...

 

Opposition would be either the "true Sith", or, if LA won't go with that, the obligatory puppet empire of the True Sith with plans to attack the still rebuilding Republic. Said opposition will be primarily non-force sensitive due to lack of force at location, however, the option to use "Force stand ins" such as mental powers, mutations, fancy cybernetics that unleash lightning / wave pulses etc. to mimic Force abilities exist (and can possibly be adapted to "Jedi-fy" other PCs)

 

Main PCs are Revan & Exile, with the Droids (T3 & HK, maybe G0T0, outside chance of Remote being sent to help Revan), along for the ride. Remaining party slots to be filled via "local aquisition" of PCs.

 

Backstory should be written around "Canon", which, if I've read correctly, is LSM Revan DSF Exile. Plotline should be malleable enough to have 4 renditions (canon, LSR/LSE, DSR/DSE, DSR/LSE). Gender only affects he/she commentary & flashbacks to love interest, both relatively minor points in the execution of the plot, if even called for at all.

 

Primary Motivations: LS characters seek to save Republic, DS characters seek to destroy / subdue / take over threat to preserve "their" Empire/Republic. In cases of cross motivations, the LS character sees DS character as necessary evil & redemption chance, while DS character sees LS character as tool & potential turned ally. This allows all 4 plot stories to be dovetailed together nicely...

 

Levels/classes/skills:

Revan - L1 soldier/scout/scoundrel (Player choice or culled from save) due to lack of Force & atrophy of original skills. Keeps uploaded stats / new Revan gets bonus points. Feats reset due to atrophy, possibly allowed to keep lightsaber use (and saber) due to extraordinary practice with it.

Exile - Having severed ties to KOTOR2 party, the Exile is right back at where he started KOTOR2. Exile class is Player choice/culled from save, and starts game as only Jedi available. Brought lightsaber with him...

 

Party to face aforementioned enemies:

Revan, Exile, Droids (HK47, T3, G0T0, Possibly Remote as assistant to Revan / Exile much as he helped Bao-Dur) aboard Ebon Hawk, which brings group to the field. One "local" per planet is drafted into party, preferably all aliens (so 4-6 aliens, 2 main PCs, 2-3(4 if remote is a separate droid) for approx. 10 people in Party, just about the same amount as was in KOTOR2.

 

Potential Plot Elements:

Revan reprising leader of Mandalorian War war as he is attempting to ferment rebellion in unknown region, Exile comes along and helps Revan inspire the locals & is "field commander" aka General.

Ways to give characters force powers, whether it's Exile's Wound passing around or being inflicted on someone else, finding ways to reconnect to force over long distances, Revan actually being a force battery and not knowing it till appropriately critical moment, removing the source of the region's force barrier, etc. etc.

Explore the relationship between Revan/Exile's actions in Mandalorian War vs Jedi request / potential plans.

Surprise visits by prior PCs - Canderous/Mandalore most likely, but any number of them can show up, like Carth bringing a ship / small fleet, Bastilla/Handmaiden-Diciple/Pick-a-Jedi's new council also heading out instead of replicating prior council's inactivity, etc.

 

Oh, it'll be an X-Box 360 / PC exclusive... :)

 

Some of those Ideas are good - I like the alternatives to force powers in the force dead worlds - although keep in mind that in force dead worlds, the jedi won't be able to use their force powers either - since the powers come from the surrounding force...which won't be there in force dead worlds...

 

A lot of people have suggested having Revan or Exile as the PC (and I've responded repeatidly) and I still say that that's a BAD idea - mainly because people will feel cheated with just being given the same character they've already created without any advancement, and because it would take a lot of configuration to get them set up again. Having both of them is even worse - having to go through TWO character creations is too much.

 

Personally I think Revan and Exile should never actualy show up in this game as playable characters (party members) or even as people to talk to. Having them in the story with people talking about them is great, but you should never find them alive - like they sacrifice themselves to destroy the true sith or something...

 

Having the droids is very plausible (particularly HK and T3), but not G0-T0 - he was a prick! :blink:

 

FYI - the 'canon' storyline of K1 & K2 is LSM Revan, and LSF Exile. Of course there's been huge affront at that being officialised in K3 that I doubt it would be enforced. Simply setting it up in the background like in K2 would be sufficient. I also hate the idea of loading save files - I'm on a 360 now, my KOTOR saves are on my original Xbox...problem noted :)

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Any word on what two games LA announced yet?

na they will most likely announce them tommorrow when g4 is broadcasting them . everyone should watch it at 7:00 eastern time

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What channel?

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Well if kotor 3 is gonna have any female npc again that part recruitable sith, id die happy if it was siobhan fahey that was voice actress for her she has the most seductive voice without question ever :ermm:

 

EDIT: well another little more serious idea might be to make a story focused on a child being born on malachor 5 to have excessive forcer powers back during the madolorian wars as to ensure the victory of revan should the war have gone wrong, would seem a strong tactial leader like him would have made a backup plan, maybe athe secret child been hidden in the outer rim to been trained in secret, and after revan lost his memory he might have remembered something of it and maybe some unforseen threat.

 

So lets say madelorian wars was maybe 5years and jedi civil war 5years or what was it and if a some years added to it you have a child full grown around 18-20years

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LA are about to announce two games?

 

Well... that was something i didn't know, and thats a true sign that i'm visiting this forum far to rarely.

 

Wich perhaps is good, in some ways. :ermm:

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LA are about to announce two games?

 

Well... that was something i didn't know, and thats a true sign that i'm visiting this forum far to rarely.

 

Wich perhaps is good, in some ways. :ermm:

Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you. I have no clue what's going on.

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Whah? Huh? Eh?

 

They announced the games or what?

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Its not going to be KotOR3

 

Thats a pretty pessimistic view for someone who reads the KOTOR 3 ideas and suggestions thread lol

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I haven't heard anything.

Neither have I.

 

And after looking on LucasArts boards, and they haven't heard anything either by the look of it, the dissapointment is overwhelming... :sad:

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when were they supposed to announce their new games anyway?

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when were they supposed to announce their new games anyway?

they are sopposed to sumtime this weekend cuz celebration IV is 5 days long . and i believe that one game has already been announced . i think it was lego star wars the saga . im not sure tho ?

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Is anyone actually attending that event?

DAWUSS

 

 

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Is anyone actually attending that event?

na i didntbut i did trie to keep up with it as much as possible

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i think it was lego star wars the saga

 

lego star wars: the original saga is already out.

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