Volourn Posted October 1, 2006 Posted October 1, 2006 Closer to turn base but not close enough to call it flat out turn base combat. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Lare Kikkeli Posted October 1, 2006 Posted October 1, 2006 It is not turn base. Neither is NWN1 9also the Aurora), KOTOR, or the IE. It's RT w/pause, or psuedo TB. Here's a test: Leave the game unpaused and go away for 10 minutes. What will he happening when you return? The game will play itself - either you will be dead or the enmies will be dead. In conclusion, it's NOT turn base. It has similarties with turn base combat; but it's NOT turn base combat. Game over. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> whatever
Pop Posted October 1, 2006 Posted October 1, 2006 Do we always have to bitch about this thing? It might not be true TB, but it's also not true RT either, otherwise you wouldn't have the option to stop the action and look around. It leans towards TB more than RT. I just had to find a player with the right codecs, and I'm liking what I see here. Some of the voices are a bit grating, yes, and a lot of the animations are rough, but there's no reason the final cut of the game isn't going to be smoother. All in all, I think it looks good. I already like the Dwarven character Tiefling isn't so bad, really, either. Just another month... Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality!
Volourn Posted October 1, 2006 Posted October 1, 2006 "It might not be true TB, but it's also not true RT either" DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Judge Hades Posted October 1, 2006 Posted October 1, 2006 (edited) If it plays like TB, looks like TB, feels like TB, then it is TB. Edited October 1, 2006 by Judge Hades
Dark_Raven Posted October 1, 2006 Posted October 1, 2006 Yes it certainly is. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
Arkan Posted October 1, 2006 Posted October 1, 2006 Continual Turb-Based featuring Pause? "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
Hassat Hunter Posted October 1, 2006 Author Posted October 1, 2006 Anyone seriously used the pause button in Kotor2? (okay; may be because of the AI being "clever" to nuke all your given orders; but still :D) ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee
Dark_Raven Posted October 1, 2006 Posted October 1, 2006 Pause is your friend. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
Pop Posted October 1, 2006 Posted October 1, 2006 Anyone seriously used the pause button in Kotor2? (okay; may be because of the AI being "clever" to nuke all your given orders; but still :D) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Having a rather weak character, HP-wise, I had to micromanage every aspect of ]the floating lightsaber fight , otherwise I'd get my ass handed to me Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality!
Junai Posted October 1, 2006 Posted October 1, 2006 (edited) What exactly did they add? Looks just like NWN 1. What's with the long pauses in the dialogues? Silly. J. Edited October 1, 2006 by Junai
Volourn Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 So... NWN1+2, the IE, and KOTOR series all have the same combat system as TOEE? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Arkan Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 So... NWN1+2, the IE, and KOTOR series all have the same combat system as TOEE? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah. D20 and/or DnD "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
Tigranes Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 Who the hell cares if it's TB or RT? The fact is the game *plays* with simultaneous movements and therefore the animations are not up to scratch. It's horribly to see them take one swing then stand exactly still, not even in tension, for 5 seconds. Also nobody really reacts when you hit them except when you die, and even that has some disturbing delays. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress)
Atreides Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 I think all will be well with fancy attacks on criticals. With the visualised slash lines, stylish attacks can be implied. Spreading beauty with my katana.
metadigital Posted October 2, 2006 Posted October 2, 2006 It is not turn base. Neither is NWN1 9also the Aurora), KOTOR, or the IE. It's RT w/pause, or psuedo TB. Here's a test: Leave the game unpaused and go away for 10 minutes. What will he happening when you return? The game will play itself - either you will be dead or the enmies will be dead. In conclusion, it's NOT turn base. It has similarties with turn base combat; but it's NOT turn base combat. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No. Look at the log. Do the characters attack each other regularly, with each one taking a turn? Yes. Turn-based. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
alanschu Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 Never mind little things like how many attacks per turn a player gets, or how many turns a spell effect has. The combat most definitely is a sequence of turns.
Volourn Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 (edited) Yup. I play TOEE. Then I play NWN. I feel like I'm playing the same exact combat. It's amazing how that connection never presented itself previously. Oustide of the fact they're both D&D. WOWSERS!!!!!!!!!!! P.S. There's a reason why both BIO, and Obsidian (as well as BIS) always use the fact that the IE, Aurora, and KOTOR engines are real time with pause as the reason why x feature from pnp can't be implemented at all or in the same way as it would in pnp. Imagine that. Edited October 3, 2006 by Volourn DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Pop Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 STOP IT YOU PEOPLE STOP IT STOP IT We've been over this. We're not going to resolve it. So drop it. I want footage of this "blade golem", to see if it's the hot **** I seem to think it is. Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality!
Dark_Raven Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 no Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
Pop Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 no <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality!
trulez Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 Based on that video I was sorely disappointed how the game looked and played.
Arkan Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 Based on that video I was sorely disappointed how the game looked and played. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought the game looked great. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
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