September 25, 200619 yr No. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Okay whatever you say... "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf
September 26, 200619 yr No. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Okay whatever you say... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He is Volourn. His every word is the law. YOU MUST OBEY HIM Word economics To express my vast wisdom I speak in haiku's.
September 26, 200619 yr The game has yet begun! Um... What game are we playing? Edited September 26, 200619 yr by Judge Hades
September 26, 200619 yr Game over. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thread over. Oh yes. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
September 26, 200619 yr "Oh? What was it mr fountain of information?" Real time with pause, phased based, sphaghetti with cheeseballs. Anything but real time or turn base. All one needs to know is that it isn't fully either of those so to refer to the IE/NWN/KOTOR type combat as either turn base or real time is at best a falalcy, or at worst, a lie. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I said it was both. I had thought that some of nature's journeymen had made men and not made them well, for they imitated humanity so abominably. - Book of Counted Sorrows 'Cause I won't know the man that kills me and I don't know these men I kill but we all wind up on the same side 'cause ain't none of us doin' god's will. - Everlast
September 26, 200619 yr For the love, there were rounds in which one player attacked, then the other NPCs took their turn! Is that not the very definition of turn-based? Can a game only be turn-based if the combat takes a really long time? It's not a fallacy, and it's not a lie, Volo. How can you even argue that it's not turn-based when the evidence is RIGHT THERE! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills! baby, take off your beret everyone's a critic and most people are DJs
September 26, 200619 yr I agree with Drabek here. Kotors, NWN, Fallouts... They all are turn-based How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG)
September 26, 200619 yr Of course KOTOR was turn-based! Didn't you guys notice the whole "Feedback" section in the pause menu where you could actually check out what happened in the last battle? "Wow, what happened there, it was all a blur!" *Checks feedback - "Oh, looks like I missed with all three attacks of my flurry, then that dude rolled a 20 to hit me with a critical strike PLUS I failed my fortitude saving throw. That stunned me so I missed my turn and then he nailed me with an Improved Power Attack hitting with 41 versus my defense of 21, resulting in a crapload of damage. Looks like I got owned." KOTOR was turn-based, it just played flashy animations to make it look like the characters were fighting in real-time. AND Bio/OBS even incorporated a "autopause-after-each-turn" option for the old-fashioned gamers who each battle to take 15 minutes. I never used it, because I prefer to pause on my own to assign actions, but it was there. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bingo. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I used the pause between turns function and had it on "pause" quite a bit so I could choose who and what I did with more finesse.
September 26, 200619 yr Depends on what you consider "turn based." To me it just seemed like KOTOR and NWN and Baldur's gate split the turns into 6 second segments to give the illusion of real time. Given how spells and attacks and whatnot still mention "turn" (how many attacks per turn. How many turns a spell effect lasts, and many turns in a round, etc.), the combat mechanics are still handled through turns.
September 26, 200619 yr http://www.rpgcodex.com/content.php?id=21 just to clear some things up. Planet Fallout
September 26, 200619 yr http://www.rpgcodex.com/content.php?id=21 just to clear some things up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not surprisingly, there's a hefty amount of bias in that article. What, the Myths against Turn Based combat are all bad and bash TB. There isn't a single myth about Turn Based combat that makes it seem better than it actually is. Now lets look at RT. Oh wait, all the "myths" about RT are about how better it is. No myths at all about how bad RT is? The same goes on for the other two. The myths are about how great it is, no myths about its faults. Only poor TB is picked on unfairly. I suppose it is possible that there aren't any myths, but it seems a bit convenient. I know it's the RPG codex and they are typically TB fanboys, but they're painting TB as too big of a victim.
September 26, 200619 yr What can you do? Chess isn't for everyone. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it)
September 26, 200619 yr Chess tends to get boring. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
September 27, 200619 yr It's awesome if you are winning. If you have an old foggy who takes their time between moves on the other hand........... Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
September 27, 200619 yr You obviously haven't tried full contact, real-time chess :(" “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
September 27, 200619 yr You obviously haven't tried full contact, real-time chess " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What do you mean by full contact? Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
September 27, 200619 yr You obviously haven't tried full contact, real-time chess :(" What do you mean by full contact? Another example of full contact sports: http://www.kungfu.net/sanshou.html Other definitions here: http://www.answers.com/topic/contact-sport (search for "Full-contact sport" on the page). A full-contact sport is similar to a semi-contact sport, but which contains physical contact between the combatants with the aim of causing a knockout or otherwise rendering the opponent inable to continue the match. Injuries are much more common in full-contact sports since the amount of protective gear is often reduced, and the techniques are executed at full power. Makes Chess much more interesting “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
September 27, 200619 yr Indeed, especially when you check mate. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
September 27, 200619 yr Chess tends to get boring. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's crazy talk. Chess is fun.
September 27, 200619 yr Chess tends to get boring. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's crazy talk. Chess is fun. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> IF you play quickly and are winning. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
September 27, 200619 yr That defeats the point of chess. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress)
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