Oblivion is the best CRPG ever made

[kirottu]

the most awesomenessest

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You convinced me.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Hunger is the best sauce.

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True.

[Gromnir]

we keep within 10 years. anachronox were better and diablo 2 were better at being the kinda game oblivion tries to be. other than bg1, iwd2 and how, we prefer every crpg made by bis and bioware to oblivion.... which is quite a list in and of itself. add in fallout as it were pre-bis.

 

we took the dare and named far more than 1.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Someone just released a topless patch (follow link in M&M thread).

Guess that will add to it's awsomeness

[kumquatq3]

Comparing Troika to Ferrari lost you all credit.

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actually, pretty dead on

 

both have build quality issues :D

[Jumjalum]

Though i have enjoyed the game somewhat during my brief testing (less than 200 hours) I must say that this game doesn't even come close to NWN in terms of Aribeth and linear play. Also the voice overs in NWN were far better.

 

Even if Oblivion has some nice scenery it's nothing compared to the hand drawn landscape of IWD2 and the freshness of a 2d top down isometric view. If you're a true roleplayer and not a min/maxer you will chose any of the above mentioned products over oblivion.

 

please discuss among yourselves

 

thanks

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My inner mob of angry villagers is calling for poolofpoos burning at the stake.

Edited April 11, 2006 by Jumjalum

[Musopticon?]

:D

+15 troll points for poolofpoo

[metadigital]

Hunger is the best sauce.

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A Greek proverb (that I can't find), appropriated by the Romans:

CIBI CONDIMENTVM ESSE FAMEM

or, Fifteenth Century French:

n'est sauce qui vaille fain

[Ellester]

Bethseda put out a press release saying Oblivion has already sold 1.7 millon units. That puts NWN and Morrowind to shame in the same timespan.

[Llyranor]

Only 2.3 million more until they surpass Enter The Matrix!

[Lyric Suite]

Bethseda put out a press release saying Oblivion has already sold 1.7 millon units. That puts NWN and Morrowind to shame in the same timespan.

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Somebody posted this in the shack:

 

"Careful, people.

 

Read this with great caution. This announces sell-in numbers, not sell-through numbers.

 

There is a huge difference. Sell-in means that Bethesda has shipped 1.7 million units to stores, but, and this is a big but...it doesn't mean that those copies have, or ever will, sell.

 

So, as much as this seems like a good thing, there may much less sell-through (the actual numbers of copies that are sold to customers). Which will be a problem later on, as copies sit on shelves, retailers get annoyed, and then return the product to the publisher, who then takes a hit.

 

I'll be impressed when Bethesda manages to break 1 million sell-through on a nichy RPG like this. In the meantime...this announcement means little."

[kumquatq3]

huh, did not know this

[Kaftan Barlast]

One thing that made me question Bethesda is that theyve apparently used 3dsMAX character studio* with premade "bipods" to do most of their animations. Thats is not very proffessional.

 

 

 

*character studio is a part of MAX that lets you easily animate walk and run cycles for humanoid characters by supplying readymade bones/skeletons that you just click a few buttons to make them walk. The problem is that its both bugged and gives you less control than if you had made your own rig.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

One thing that made me question Bethesda is that theyve apparently used 3dsMAX character studio* with premade "bipods"  to do most of their animations. Thats is not very proffessional.

 

 

 

*character studio is a part of MAX that lets you easily animate walk and run cycles for humanoid characters by supplying readymade bones/skeletons that you just click a few buttons to make them walk. The problem is that its both bugged and gives you less control than if you had made your own rig.

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Quantity over quality. It's kind of a TES watchword.

[Jorian Drake]

nothing Black Isle, Troika, Obsidian or Bioware made comes even close

 

there you have it folks

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Sure, and Ford is the best car ever made. Nothing from Lamborghini, Ferrari or Rolls Royce comes even close.

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You mean the T-mobil

[Ellester]

I'll be impressed when Bethesda manages to break 1 million sell-through on a nichy RPG like this. In the meantime...this announcement means little."

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Well they sold over a million units with Morrowind, if not over two million, I don't see any reason why the guy who posted thought 1 million would be a problem for Oblivion.

[Meshugger]

Comparing Troika to Ferrari lost you all credit.

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I did? That wasn't the intention, i was just pointing out the stupidity in his argument. If you want it that way, then no. It's more like Troika = Bethesda. Why? because:

 

Troika: Great ideas, bad implementation = mostly meh.

Bethesda: Simple ideas, ok implementation = mostly meh.

 

Even though both VTM: Bloodlines and Oblivion were mostly meh, it was still a great step forward for them.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

I think Oblivion is quite mainstream. Very simple, not much reading required , looks and plays a lot like an FPS.

 

I'd be suprised if it didnt sell at least a million.

 

Dosnt hurt that there isnt much else on the 360 of note either. I think that was much the same story with Morrowind on the Xbox.

[Cantousent]

In general: It's not the best CRPG in ten years. ...But I've spent more time on it than with any other CRPG in the last few years.

 

To meta: Showoff.

 

To pool: :Eldar's shaking his head with a wry smile icon:

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

My clock shows 60 something hours for two characters.

 

In all honesty I'd have probably stopped playing sooner if Dragon Quest didnt slip a week. But I have no regrets on either the game or buying the 360 to play the game. It wasnt "great" but it was fun.

 

Probably would have still been playing it had we not gone on that mad 360 rental spree.

 

Just so I can be happy smiley

 

Dragon Quest The Journey of the Cursed King + Official Strategy Guide Being Picked Today 1

[metadigital]

One thing that made me question Bethesda is that they've apparently used 3dsMAX character studio* with premade "bipeds"  to do most of their animations. That's is not very professional.

 

 

 

*character studio is a part of MAX that lets you easily animate walk and run cycles for humanoid characters by supplying readymade bones/skeletons that you just click a few buttons to make them walk. The problem is that its both bugged and gives you less control than if you had made your own rig.

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That just means it is not only permissable for you, as a neophyte independent developer, to do the same but that if you actually make your own character models it will be heralded as "brilliant" and "above the curve".

To meta:  Showoff.

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Who is the more ostentatious, the one who brandishes the kitch phrase that conspicuously begs the question, or the one who answers it?

 

[Craigboy2]

nothing Black Isle, Troika, Obsidian or Bioware made comes even close

 

there you have it folks

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It's good but not the best, It has many flaws.