Arkan Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I remember when Ebay first came about you could search for nearly anything you wanted, and an individual somewhere usually had just what you were looking for. It was a good way to find hard to find things or something new for a relatively cheap price. Now all you find are these online stores that sell junk versions of what your looking for. Capitalism has killed ebay for me. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Didnt you know? Capitalism kills EVERYTHING in the long run. ( well, everything good atleast ) DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Didnt you know? Capitalism kills EVERYTHING in the long run. ( well, everything good atleast ) You do love those 500+ words per post battles about capitalism with taks, don't you? - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Schmarth Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Everything worth buying has been bought. ^Asinus asinorum in saecula saeculorum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surreptishus Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Ebay used to be about the people man! It was a community! We governed ourselves unitl the "corporations" took over and the bastard bourgeosie have made it into a diluted common denominator version of its former self. Just to make profit for the greedy fat cats at the top. I remember back in the day I could sell porn freely and it was in demand... now i get shut down by The Man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Ebay lost it when we could sell a grilled cheese sandwich on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child of Flame Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 That wasn't just any grilled cheese sammich on it man, that was a grilled cheese sammich with the face of the Holy Mother on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Didnt you know? Capitalism kills EVERYTHING in the long run. ( well, everything good atleast ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ::sings:: The circle, the circle of capitalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielle Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Capitalism sucks. It killed the funness of the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 (edited) Didnt you know? Capitalism kills EVERYTHING in the long run. ( well, everything good atleast ) You do love those 500+ words per post battles about capitalism with taks, don't you? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, I did read an interesting essay about the Bretton Woods system and how an unregulated, free flow of capital undermines democracy and the wellfare state by allowing the formation of an economical virtual senate that rules by the threat of capital flight. Edited December 15, 2005 by Kaftan Barlast DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantousent Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Didnt you know? Capitalism kills EVERYTHING in the long run. ( well, everything good atleast ) You do love those 500+ words per post battles about capitalism with taks, don't you? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, he just likes the rank stench of hypocrisy that permeates his position. Nothing like sitting at your university, using your computer to post messages on a message board, and enjoying the benefits of the system that has reared you to engender unhappiness in any individual. Of course, maybe he should come up with a better system. Here's another question... wasn't ebay a capitalist enterprise in the first place? So, capitalism creates something you enjoy but that service falls prey to a more successful endeavor, and capitalism killed it? I guess capitalism giveth and capitalism taketh away. In the meantime, Kaftan, continue to rail against the very system that affords you the opportunity to sit at a computer attacking it. Your position is not only grossly hypocritical, it is also most odiously stupid. Not you, though. Nothing personal. Just your ideas and positions. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Moth Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I'll take capitalism over communism any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 No, he just likes the rank stench of hypocrisy that permeates his position. Nothing like sitting at your university, using your computer to post messages on a message board, and enjoying the benefits of the system that has reared you to engender unhappiness in any individual. Of course, maybe he should come up with a better system. Here's another question... wasn't ebay a capitalist enterprise in the first place? So, capitalism creates something you enjoy but that service falls prey to a more successful endeavor, and capitalism killed it? I guess capitalism giveth and capitalism taketh away. In the meantime, Kaftan, continue to rail against the very system that affords you the opportunity to sit at a computer attacking it. Your position is not only grossly hypocritical, it is also most odiously stupid. Not you, though. Nothing personal. Just your ideas and positions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The system which allows me to attend university here without paying tuition fees and funded by quite reasonable student loans, is a socialist economic model. I would say that it reasonable, to have some sort of knowledge about what youre talking about, before you start talking. Now what has happened with Ebay, as well as most similar sites like the Swedish Blocket, is that it has been transformed from an open peer-to-peer marketplace to a gigantic shopping mall. Instead of people selling things to other people, you have bussinesses using Ebay as a cheaper alternative to an online store. And being a gigantic mall, you cant have people selling whatever they want to. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantousent Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I was waiting for the Socialist comment. I was waiting for it with relish. Yes, European Socialism. A capitalist system in socialists clothing if I've ever heard one. ...But where do you derive the capital for this endeavor? Did the government just create the capital? Even if it did, which it did not, then does any government stand alone? Where do the exports go when you manufacture items? Is it all domestic, because, if not, you get an awefully big boost from some capitalist neighbors. Nope, I didn't have the wrong idea, friend. You do. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child of Flame Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I'll take capitalism over communism any day. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 (edited) @CoF: Whats the first word say? Edited December 15, 2005 by Gfted1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child of Flame Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 'I'm' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 "Im * communism"? I dont get it. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Ebay is crap/good as it's always been imho. The fact you can still log on, set up an auction for a piece of rope, and have someone seriously buy it pretty much confirms that for me. As for politics, it's gay. End of really. There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child of Flame Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 "Im * communism"? I dont get it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's because just like Hitler, you don't READ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielle Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Why read when you can burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Skywalker Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Socialism (not the Leninist type, but the Scandanavin type) works relatively well in relatively homogeneous societies. It does not work as well in more diverse societies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Er, I think you'll find the Swedish will argue with their. There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 ebay's failure, er, downfall, has nothing to do with capitalism. they should have regulated it but didn't. it is private enterprise, so they are allowed to put restrictions on their own business model. now, capitalism affords someone else to come in with a model that restricts the online shopping aspect. perhaps i have an idea now... taks PS: too excited to argue the virtues of capitalism over socialism and call kaftan a freeloader... going skiing tomorrow! PPS: i'd never call you a freeloader kaftan, but the joke was too easy to drop. comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Socialism (not the Leninist type, but the Scandanavin type) works relatively well in relatively homogeneous societies. It does not work as well in more diverse societies. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i must make one more point... it also works in societies that are a) relatively small, at least much smaller (orders of magnitude) than countries like the US and b) societies that have high levels of resources and/or services that are in great demand in the rest of the world. the former point is really aimed at small tribal groups where everyone has to pitch in because there are more jobs to do than people to do them. the latter point is simply because the positive trade balance affords the society money to blow, so to speak (scandinavian countries have such a benefit). such societies, btw, are actually living off of the fruits of the rest of the capitalist societies which are generating the wealth. so in the end, they still need us materialistic bastards to keep 'em humming. also, well made point eldar. well made. taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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