CoM_Solaufein Posted August 28, 2005 Posted August 28, 2005 Well I'd be totally happy if such interesting characters like Visas, Atris and Nihilus got more development time as well if old ones got interesting cameos. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Atris and Nihilus being the poster children of the game you would think their role would have been much more than what it was. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester
Cathryn Posted August 28, 2005 Posted August 28, 2005 My problem there is that aside from being on the box, their significant amount of influence behind the story's events just makes the lack of real 'presence' in the game that much more awkward.
Calax Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 who wouldn't like to see Atris and Nihilus go at it? Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
jaguars4ever Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 who wouldn't like to see Atris and Nihilus go at it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Jack Thompson. "
Calax Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 well he's neurotic so we can discount him. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
Baley Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 STFU!!! He's a great man who only strives for the good of our children. May they live in a moral christian world. God Bless him! God Bless America!
Calax Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 STFU!!! He's a great man who only strives for the good of our children. May they live in a moral christian world. God Bless him! God Bless America! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> so sayth the romanian drunkard. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
Gabrielle Posted August 29, 2005 Posted August 29, 2005 who wouldn't like to see Atris and Nihilus go at it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Jack Thompson. " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Who?
Plano Skywalker Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 the biggest problem with K2 NPCs is lack of dev time....I think G0TO was supposed to be much more....same with Bao-Dur. however, nothing really wrong with having a dead weight character like G0TO...just give us more options. If I want a floating mine remover, I might choose G0TO. If I want a second astromech droid, then I can put him in the G0TO slot. Basically, there should be an inner circle and an outer circle of NPCs. The inner circle cannot be subbed out...the outer circle can. I think the idea that they should not have cameos of anyone that *could* have been killed is a specious argument. Obviously, there is an "official" explanation to what happened, even if it is not written down anywhere.
Calax Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 LS male is considered cannon for both games... Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
EnderAndrew Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 LS male is considered cannon for both games... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There is no official cannon for the second game yet.
Calax Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 ok that's true but it seems like most people prefer LS male to anything else so i was making an educated guess. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
Strika Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 Spoilers here dont read if you didnt clear KOTOR 1 "Officially" Bastila lives either LS or DS. If revan goes lightside, bastila is left behind (like everyone else) by revan. If Revan goes darkside, bastila is her aprentice and watches over the starforge. Beheading bastila in KOTOR 1 is there simply for "fun". Its another possible option for the storyline, but is not official. We learn this because no matter what, she lives in KOTOR 2.
EnderAndrew Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 Spoilers here dont read if you didnt clear KOTOR 1 "Officially" Bastila lives either LS or DS. If revan goes lightside, bastila is left behind (like everyone else) by revan. If Revan goes darkside, bastila is her aprentice and watches over the starforge. Beheading bastila in KOTOR 1 is there simply for "fun". Its another possible option for the storyline, but is not official. We learn this because no matter what, she lives in KOTOR 2. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is that the case? I saw Bastilla in KOTOR:2 as I saw Carth as well. However my wife told the game that Revan was DS, and Carth didn't appear, and I assumed Bastilla wouldn't appear either. Does it matter if Revan was male or female?
Zulu 86 Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 Spoilers here dont read if you didnt clear KOTOR 1 "Officially" Bastila lives either LS or DS. If revan goes lightside, bastila is left behind (like everyone else) by revan. If Revan goes darkside, bastila is her aprentice and watches over the starforge. Beheading bastila in KOTOR 1 is there simply for "fun". Its another possible option for the storyline, but is not official. We learn this because no matter what, she lives in KOTOR 2. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is that the case? I saw Bastilla in KOTOR:2 as I saw Carth as well. However my wife told the game that Revan was DS, and Carth didn't appear, and I assumed Bastilla wouldn't appear either. Does it matter if Revan was male or female? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I played TSL the first time and said Revan was LSF and Carth appeared a few times, but Bastila did not at all - only once during the Korriban cave bit.
EnderAndrew Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 (edited) Bastilla appeared the end and spoke to Carth when I played as LSM. Maybe a bit late; but spoiler tags added... -Battlewookiee Edited September 2, 2005 by Battlewookiee
Zulu 86 Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Perhaps the assumption is that the love between LSF Revan and Bastila was not great enough so Revan was not able to save Bastila from the Dark Side and so had to have her killed - which is why she doesn't appear (for me) in TSL when you say Revan was a LSF... Or something " Just by the by, am I the only one who immediately thinks of Liberty Security Force when I see LSF?
Enha_Dyone Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 (edited) Just by the by, am I the only one who immediately thinks of Liberty Security Force when I see LSF? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes you are No, he is not :D -Battlewookiee Edited August 31, 2005 by Battlewookiee "Revan was power. It was like staring into the heart of the Force. Even then, you could see the Jedi he would slay etched on his soul." ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Musopticon? Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Keep out of people's posts, you furry fiend. Authority does it enough as it is. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds
Enha_Dyone Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Keep out of people's posts, you furry fiend. Authority does it enough as it is. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Battlewookiee isn't a fiend.... he is... well... a big furry fiend :D And I'm not going to post for a while because I like that number :ph34r: "Revan was power. It was like staring into the heart of the Force. Even then, you could see the Jedi he would slay etched on his soul." ------------------------------------------------------------------------
hawk Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Just by the by, am I the only one who immediately thinks of Liberty Security Force when I see LSF? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good that we have some people who played Freelancer as well. Master Vandar lives!
Musopticon? Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 I knew I had seen that acronym somewhere. :D Damn good game. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds
BattleCookiee Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Keep out of people's posts, you furry fiend. Authority does it enough as it is. Battlewookiee isn't a fiend.... he is... well... a big furry fiend :D And I'm not going to post for a while because I like that number :ph34r: Furry fiend? Tssss.. That sounds awfully Han Solo'ish... (This is the Light Side Female, disengage your engines and prepare to be boarded ) (That's Junk'o Zane, she's Light Sidee Female, all business ) And to get (and hope keep) it on-topic... I would have totally not needed cameo's IF they had decent character-development. And seeing as how the cameo's are now I am also glad they didn't make more...
metadigital Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Perhaps the assumption is that the love between LSF Revan and Bastila was not great enough so Revan was not able to save Bastila from the Dark Side and so had to have her killed - which is why she doesn't appear (for me) in TSL when you say Revan was a LSF... Or something " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My LSF Revan saved Bastila. And took her off down behind the garage, afterwards. " OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
Angelsdawn Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Oh goody goody, a cameo thread I don't know about you guys, but don't you think K2 was a bit...well...depressing? I mean, don't get me wrong, it was a good game. It's just, with all the bad stuff going on in the game and all the secrets and lies (especially the music), It's not a pretty sight.. The cameos were fine for me. In movies, they don't exactly reveal EVERYTHING that happened to people after the movie. (Any good movie director wouldn't do that anyways) Because they want you to imagine the rest and think of possible locations those old characters may have gone to or what they did. That's what invented "Fanfiction" ladies and gentlemen I say, that the game wasn't the best of the best, but the cameo apearances were...satisfying. K2 missed the pep of K1. I know you were able to joke around with Atton, but in K1, you can tease Bastila, Carth, Mission, Jolee and even Canderous...I think lol. It was just more happier and peppier. It's just my opinion. Because really most of us play games to have a rest from our own busy lives and when one game can inflict depressing thoughts and feelings, I really don't want to play it. WHOA! I'm going totally off topic lol...Well, better quit before I go too far XD Edit: Removed the spoilers
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