Bokishi Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I just bought the strategy book and it lists Atris as Darth Traya, in fact it shows Atris wearing Dark Jedi gear and looking all evil. Was this cut from the game or what? Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Atris was Darth Traya. "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted December 21, 2004 Author Share Posted December 21, 2004 Kreia was. Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Are you saying that both me and the strategy book are wrong? "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted December 21, 2004 Author Share Posted December 21, 2004 Do you have the game? Atris remains normal when you fight her, and Kriea get's all evil and becomes Darth Traya. Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I have the game. I have also beaten the game. "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted December 21, 2004 Author Share Posted December 21, 2004 So have I, but I fought Atris while she was normal looking a.k.a no dark costume. Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Ok, enough fun... Â Atris became Darth Traya after Kreia lost her connection to the force. Kreia takes back the title after you resolved your affair with Atris. "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted December 21, 2004 Author Share Posted December 21, 2004 Why does the book show Atris wearing a dark costume? I fought her while she was wearing her normal white clothes. Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruskin11 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 the book is wrong i guess. i wondered the same thing also when i saw the book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler98 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Strategy Guides are very often worthless. Prima is renounded for thier utter worthlessness. I've never opened a Prima guide that isn't full of errors and inconcsistancies. Just one of the many good reasons never to buy a guide. Â Strategy Guides are one of those things that tend to cross my mind "what can I do that I would actually enjoy". It wouldn't be hard to out do Prima in quality, but how the heck do you wedge your foot into such a nitch market. Â P.S. The guide is wrong about Traya and Atris showing up at all in dark clothing. I'm going to even go as far as to say that Atris was never Traya (sorry Leferd), I do not recall the dialog which pointed that fact out. "Darth" is a title, the name behind it is not and it is not passed around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I'm not going to dispute Atris wearing dark clothing, (I've always seen her in white) but in conversation with Kreia, it was alluded that Atris took up the mantle of Darth Traya when she fell to the dark side. "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ostkant Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 There have been more than one Darth Trayas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasthius Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 SPOILERS: Â Â Â The game clearly designates Kreia as Traya, however, when you are talking to Kreia at the end of the game on Malachor, there is a dialogue option where you can ask her "Why did Atris betray me?" and Kreia answers with something like "She betrayed herself" and "There must always be a Darth Traya." Â Kreia didn't specifically say Atris was Traya, but she implied it by saying "Atris betrayed herself and there must always be a Darth Traya." Just another aspect of the game that was very confusing and an aspect the Devs could have made more clear. Â The only thing I can gather is that either Atris was Traya, or they both were. I am leaning to they both were, as was implied by Kreia when she went to study with Atris and teach her. Â I still haven't totally figured out exactly just how Atris was dark side. All I gathered was she was trying to save the teachings of the Jedi -- doesn't seem too "darkside" to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthPanda Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 From what I got out of the dialogue in the game, Atris refused to accept that she had fallen to the Dark Side (thus betraying herself) until Kreia showed her the light (no pun intended). So up until the moment you defeat Atris, she was the acting Darth Treya (albeit unknowingly for most of her stint), and Kreia assumed the mantle again as she headed back to Malachor V. Â The reason Atris fell was she was hoarding both Jedi and Sith holocrons - she sought to save the Jedi teachings and wanted to understand the Sith teachings so she could learn how to defeat them. Of course, since she piled them all up in her meditation chamber, she went and got herself corrupted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted December 21, 2004 Author Share Posted December 21, 2004 Here's some scans I took from the guide showing Atris in her black gear: Â Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ostkant Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Wow... cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doright Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 well not only did I not see her in the black there wasnt' a title over her saying Darth Traya either. It still said Atris. Â Â and what is that nasty purple armor the Exile is wearing in that shot? Dang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSwindler Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Wow..that get up she's wearing is sweet...too bad it's not in the game...or atleast I haven't found it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Master D Murda Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 That picture is literally freaking me out here . I MEAN LITERALLY!!! Â Anyways she does look like Maleficent or the Evil witch from Snow White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Satasn Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Im glad thats not in the game it looks silly...whats up with the crew cut looking hood? Do all evil girls look like dykes? Â And I think it's Kreia that looks like the Witch from Snow White.....not Atris....Atris looks like the Witch from Sleeping Beauty haha... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler98 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Anyone want an Apple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstep Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 well,and this is just my thoughts on it,it seems that "traya" means "betrayer" or "the betrayer",which fits into the dialog i believe.also if you recall,kreia tells you that she and atris both started as keepers of the archives,and that atris has been walkin a path which kreia had walked a long time before.anyways there my thoughts and deductions,take them as you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted December 21, 2004 Author Share Posted December 21, 2004 All would be forgiven if she sends lightsaber weilding dwarves after you. Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarkan Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Yeah, I saw it being that she felt that the jedi teachings were wrong and that you needed to expose people to both Sith and Jedi Order teachings in order to maintain balance but she fell to the dark side and you realize that the only way to have balance in the force is without the fanatical teachings of the Jedi Order or the Sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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