HoonDing Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Please Harris, just win Florida so this nonsense is over immediately instead of waiting til at least Saturday The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestic Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, BruceVC said: And the slip of paper with the number is that a print out linked to the voters role? Here in Commie-Land, you're automatically added to the electoral roll based on your primary residence. You only need to register to vote if you're living abroad. Whenever there's an election, your local municipal government sends you the necessary information via mail, i.e. when the election is held, where to go to vote and the slip of paper with your electoral roll number on it that @Lexx mentioned. You just show up to vote, hand over your slip, are handed your ballot paper in return and off to vote you go. These people also check your ID in case they don't know you - so when you're living in one of the larger cities, for instance, you'll probably need an ID on you. As I am from the suburbs I never had to show my ID to vote. Kinda pointless when you're on a first name basis with the guys checking the ID. Then again... we also usually have enough votes counted to call the elections a couple of hours after the polling stations close in most cases (i.e. a confidence interval of < 0.5% which is enough for most elections - except maybe the presidential one in a really close race), and only need a couple of days for an official final result. Quite baffling how long some nations need to get their votes counted. 1 No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago As a bunch of people already stated, in California you have a voter roll, so you just show up to vote. I'm not a precinct manager or anything, so I don't know the details. Why would someone risk fake voting as me? Voter fraud is investigated and that would be a pretty easy case to solve. The idea that there are statistically relevant numbers voting fraudulently is a just a big red herring. Florida did a big investigation in the last election and spent a bunch of money to catch like 12 people. Driver's licenses and passports are not free. I don't even have a valid passport right now. The only documents in the US people are really expected to have are your birth certificate and Social Security card. But you shouldn't be carrying those around. The artist formally known as Gorgon already explained that though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 5 hours ago, Lexx said: So, how many hours until we know who won? Regardless of the results, Trump will declare victory in about 12 hours. And after the votes are counted and if Trump doesn't have the electoral college, there will be months of lawsuits trying to force recounts or disqualify voters. So maybe over a thousand. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Hurlshort said: As a bunch of people already stated, in California you have a voter roll, so you just show up to vote. I'm not a precinct manager or anything, so I don't know the details. Why would someone risk fake voting as me? Voter fraud is investigated and that would be a pretty easy case to solve. The idea that there are statistically relevant numbers voting fraudulently is a just a big red herring. Florida did a big investigation in the last election and spent a bunch of money to catch like 12 people. Driver's licenses and passports are not free. I don't even have a valid passport right now. The only documents in the US people are really expected to have are your birth certificate and Social Security card. But you shouldn't be carrying those around. The artist formally known as Gorgon already explained that though. Well South Africa hasnt had issues of rampant voter fraud either but we have a system of ID requirement to vote You dont have a system like this because of historical cases of voter fraud, its just a way of confirming you are the person on the voters role Anyway its clear to me its not as common as I assumed. Interesting to know "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) Why so concerned with voter fraud in the US, Bruce ? Edited 6 hours ago by Malcador 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Malcador said: Why so concerned with voter fraud in the US, Bruce ? I dont think there is mass voter fraud in the US and I believe elections are free and fair It just surprised me that you would have elections in any state or country without ID, or another form of identification, checks But its more common than I assumed. "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 17 minutes ago, BruceVC said: I dont think there is mass voter fraud in the US and I believe elections are free and fair It just surprised me that you would have elections in any state or country without ID, or another form of identification, checks But its more common than I assumed. The principle in the US, unlike in most of the developed world, is that people should not be forced to have a form of ID. So if not everyone has to have an ID, and not everyone, additionally, has easy access to a form of ID, due to specific socio-economic constraints, requiring ID to vote is a targeted form of suppression. Essentially if you require ID to vote you should provide ID to all who are eligible to vote. 1 "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 28 minutes ago, BruceVC said: It just surprised me that you would have elections in any state or country without ID, or another form of identification, checks But its more common than I assumed. It was a surprise and revelation to me too. Here in IL a state ID costs $20 / 5 years (free if youre over 65) but I do agree that every single person over 18 should be automatically issued a government ID card. Hell, imo, we should be getting a DNA sample at birth too. Unsolved crime would disappear in a generation. 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, BruceVC said: its just a way of confirming you are the person on the voters role You still do that with voter rolls though, since you can only vote at that location. Extra layers sometimes just add more exploitable gaps rather than more security. 8 minutes ago, Gfted1 said: It was a surprise and revelation to me too. Here in IL a state ID costs $20 / 5 years (free if youre over 65) but I do agree that every single person over 18 should be automatically issued a government ID card. Hell, imo, we should be getting a DNA sample at birth too. Unsolved crime would disappear in a generation. It might, but it'd also theoretically gives people the ability to create airtight frames of innocent people if they're able to access your DNA profile. 1 I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 3 hours ago, majestic said: Quite baffling how long some nations need to get their votes counted. The final results take two weeks here because of Special Votes, which we have a lot of (more than 25% of total). That's people voting out of electorate, from overseas, registered too late; and we also allow on day registration. All of those have to be manually checked, and generally skew enough to change the result by a couple of seats since specials always bias Left, which has been significant in a 120 (ish, often have overhangs from Maori Party winning electorates disproportionately) seat parliament. Last election despite being a 'landslide' the specials meant three parties were needed for a coalition rather than two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Have to show ID of some sort here in Canada, 1 photo ID or combination of your voter card and a bill or something official with your address on it. You can vote without it but you need someone to vouch for you, interestingly enough. But for most people, they have that, usually DL. I remember using my passport and the poll guy telling me it wasn't proof of citizenship. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjshae Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago My sympathies for all the US election workers and the stuff and nonsense they have to put up these days for just doing their patriotic duty. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestic Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Malcador said: I remember using my passport and the poll guy telling me it wasn't proof of citizenship. 1 No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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