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“Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.”
 
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"The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

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31 minutes ago, bugarup said:

I was thinking whether to put this here or in Funny:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd7xnelvpepo

It's more disturbing than funny to think that somebody has found a way to make the lithium battery explode remotely. I hope there's another explanation.

"It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."

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1 hour ago, bugarup said:

I was thinking whether to put this here or in Funny:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd7xnelvpepo

 

Not sure what would be funny, sabotage operation would be here or the politics thread I assume.  Hopefully no civilians injured (as if Blue team would care that much, heh) although maybe unlikely considering the device.  Edit : Ok, apparently a girl was killed. 

Might not be the batteries being made to explode rather than just the pagers being rigged in the first place.

 

 

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Gaza thread would probably be most appropriate. There isn't really any doubt who is behind it.

Certainly not the funny thread. One can only imagine the reaction if someone put a similar attack aimed at, say, Israel, Ukraine or the CIA in there...

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Sabine's assessment of the current state of physics (warning, swearing and profanity with a German accent)

 

 

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“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
 

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4 hours ago, Raithe said:

Death threats are horrible, but James Spann is a ****ing great man and anyone that threatens men such as him deserves a bullet in the brain pan.

Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken

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“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
 

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To add to the ecology-related articles:

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2024/sep/24/where-does-the-uks-fast-fashion-end-up-i-found-out-on-a-beach-clean-in-ghana The reinforcement of the gender stereotypes aside, it is interesting, though unsettling.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/oct/08/earths-vital-signs-show-humanitys-future-in-balance-say-climate-experts Not sure whether the acceleration to the hard-to-recover point is overestimated, but even now, the climate change is noticeable.

I was trying to find an article about the effects of animal farming (aka those torture-murder factories) on the environment (very negative, including air; the prices of the properties around also go down by up to 75%), but the search engines did not favour me today.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/23/long-shadow-life-under-the-veiled-grasp-of-factory-farming-in-europe This one.

TLDR: go vegan, use less bandwidth, buy less physical items, recycle what you can, and do not reproduce, so maybe we will not die from the global warming.

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3 hours ago, Hawke64 said:

To add to the ecology-related articles:

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2024/sep/24/where-does-the-uks-fast-fashion-end-up-i-found-out-on-a-beach-clean-in-ghana The reinforcement of the gender stereotypes aside, it is interesting, though unsettling.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/oct/08/earths-vital-signs-show-humanitys-future-in-balance-say-climate-experts Not sure whether the acceleration to the hard-to-recover point is overestimated, but even now, the climate change is noticeable.

I was trying to find an article about the effects of animal farming (aka those torture-murder factories) on the environment (very negative, including air; the prices of the properties around also go down by up to 75%), but the search engines did not favour me today.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/23/long-shadow-life-under-the-veiled-grasp-of-factory-farming-in-europe This one.

TLDR: go vegan, use less bandwidth, buy less physical items, recycle what you can, and do not reproduce, so maybe we will not die from the global warming.

I don't know if you like to look at videos, but More Perfect Union on youtube has quite a few videos about those subjects, they're quite good.

You shouldn't necessarily go vegan though, the farming practices of the big producers are wrecking their soil, and have other bad practices ontop of that. It's better to ensure that what you buy comes from sustainable farming practices. Alot of vegan foods are ontop of that highly processed stuff, so if you go down that route you should be wary of that too.

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Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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On 10/11/2024 at 10:50 AM, Azdeus said:

I don't know if you like to look at videos, but More Perfect Union on youtube has quite a few videos about those subjects, they're quite good.

You shouldn't necessarily go vegan though, the farming practices of the big producers are wrecking their soil, and have other bad practices ontop of that. It's better to ensure that what you buy comes from sustainable farming practices. Alot of vegan foods are ontop of that highly processed stuff, so if you go down that route you should be wary of that too.

Thank you for sharing. The videos on workers' rights and water there are interesting (and concerning) as well (though, some of the titles are slightly clickbait-y).

Regarding highly processed food, most vegan food, such as grains and vegetables, is not processed, same for the older vegan recipes (e.g. Indian cuisine), the rest are at the same level as animal-based products (e.g. cakes or sauces). Also, the plant-based food is cheaper and easier to store (source: 10 years of personal experience without a fridge (got one now, though) - grains and spices last for months without refrigeration, reduced-price vegetables can usually last for a few days to a week, and potatoes specifically several weeks).

Then there is the ethical part (at this point, humans do not have to kill animals for our survival), so here is a video of a happy rescued cow playing with a ball: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJaR9CMnJpU .

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On an unrelated note, here is an article on top-level domains: https://every.to/p/the-disappearance-of-an-internet-domain.

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On October 3, the British government announced that it was giving up sovereignty over a small tropical atoll in the Indian Ocean known as the Chagos Islands. The islands would be handed over to the neighboring island country of Mauritius, about 1,100 miles off the southeastern coast of Africa.

The story did not make the tech press, but perhaps it should have. The decision to transfer the islands to their new owner will result in the loss of one of the tech and gaming industry’s preferred top-level domains: .io.

Itch.io should be fine: https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/could-a-surprise-uk-territory-handover-spell-the-end-for-itch-io-

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In an email to Game Developer, site creator Leaf Corcoran said that users shouldn’t worry about the site going away. "We're keeping an eye on how things pan out," he wrote. "No plans to do anything at the moment but switching domain names is always an option should the .io domain no longer exist."

 

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2 hours ago, Hawke64 said:

Thank you for sharing. The videos on workers' rights and water there are interesting (and concerning) as well (though, some of the titles are slightly clickbait-y).

Regarding highly processed food, most vegan food, such as grains and vegetables, is not processed, same for the older vegan recipes (e.g. Indian cuisine), the rest are at the same level as animal-based products (e.g. cakes or sauces). Also, the plant-based food is cheaper and easier to store (source: 10 years of personal experience without a fridge (got one now, though) - grains and spices last for months without refrigeration, reduced-price vegetables can usually last for a few days to a week, and potatoes specifically several weeks).

Then there is the ethical part (at this point, humans do not have to kill animals for our survival), so here is a video of a happy rescued cow playing with a ball: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJaR9CMnJpU .

Nemas problemas, as you say the titles are clickbait, but unfortunately that is the way youtube works, and if you want to reach people, you have to play the algorithm game. 😕

Sure, if you make everything from scratch it's simply produce, but most people I've come about buy things like vegan sausages and similar things.

I'm grown up on the countryside here in Sweden and know lots of farmers, and admittedly there is a helluva cultural difference, but the dairy and meat cows I've come across are as happy as he is. And they taste alot better than those animals that are raised in those monstrous conditions that there are in those permanently locked barns.

Not quite as cute, but yearly cow-release after winter; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BggwEPzEsbE

 

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On 10/13/2024 at 4:12 AM, Azdeus said:

Sure, if you make everything from scratch it's simply produce, but most people I've come about buy things like vegan sausages and similar things.

I'm grown up on the countryside here in Sweden and know lots of farmers, and admittedly there is a helluva cultural difference, but the dairy and meat cows I've come across are as happy as he is. And they taste alot better than those animals that are raised in those monstrous conditions that there are in those permanently locked barns.

This is my experience as well and I also grew up in rural farmland.

My experience with vegans, or people considering it, is also similar with most that I've met wanting meat substitutes. Speaking only for my non-vegan self, I like a good bean burger for what it is but an impossible burger is just so much more what I usually want and that is heavily processed and not healthy. I've dabbled with different vegetarian persuasions but I always end up coming back to meat, provided that it is cruelty free, or at least much less cruel, I mean nature is ****ing cruel as **** but that doesn't mean we have to be.

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56 minutes ago, ShadySands said:

This is my experience as well and I also grew up in rural farmland.

My experience with vegans, or people considering it, is also similar with most that I've met wanting meat substitutes. Speaking only for my non-vegan self, I like a good bean burger for what it is but an impossible burger is just so much more what I usually want and that is heavily processed and not healthy. I've dabbled with different vegetarian persuasions but I always end up coming back to meat, provided that it is cruelty free, or at least much less cruel, I mean nature is ****ing cruel as **** but that doesn't mean we have to be.

Yup, they're about as much pets to the farmers I know as cats, dogs and such.

That is a better way to put it, looking for meat substitutes. I tried going vegetarian for about 6 months when I was in my teens, and it was some of the worst times I had.

Besides not liking pork, another reason why I stay away from it is that alot of it here is from factory farms.

Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken

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