Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2, Thread 2

[melkathi]

I am open to them proving themselves up to the task to make a fun game.

 

It turns out even Werewolf: Earthblood was actually good (in an AA or possibly Aa kind of way).

The WoD has potential for good games.

[MrBrown]

2 hours ago, Wormerine said:

Hmmm… the developer raises my eyebrows - they haven’t ever developed an actual game, have they? Just narrative walking sims. 

Nonsense, they made a platformer for apple stuff!

Still, going from Dear Esther (which is good for what it is), to an AAA game seems like a bit step up... We'll see how it goes.

[BruceVC]

17 hours ago, Lexx said:

Ah s- here we go again.

Not sure what to think of it. Too lazy to check the old stuff, but looks kinda the same to me.

/Edit: And more. https://www.pcgamer.com/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-has-been-quietly-rebuilt-by-dear-esther-developer-the-chinese-room-with-different-gameplay-mechanics-and-rpg-systems/

 

That looks really good and Im hoping they finish this game, Im excited because I was starting to think this game would be vaporware 

And one positive already it looks like there are hot women in it which means woke influence isnt dictating the artistic and aesthetic direction of the game . That will be a nice change 

 

[Keyrock]

38 minutes ago, MrBrown said:

Nonsense, they made a platformer for apple stuff!

Still, going from Dear Esther (which is good for what it is), to an AAA game seems like a bit step up... We'll see how it goes.

Don't forget, they made the 1 Amnesia game that everybody pretends doesn't exist.

[BruceVC]

57 minutes ago, Keyrock said:

Don't forget, they made the 1 Amnesia game that everybody pretends doesn't exist.

Im still skeptical about if they can create a game as prestigious, iconic  and grand as Bloodlines 2 

I enjoyed Amnesia and Penumbra  but they tiny games compared to this project 

 

[Lexx]

Tbh, that trailer gives me nothing. All we see is some combat action, but simple truth is, I rather do the talky or sneaky way in my roleplaying games. And that's pretty much what would be important to me in a new Bloodlines game... How is the dialog, what stuff can I do, and how avoidable is the combat. The new company has no (good) track record in any of that stuff, but since everyone got fired some years ago, who knows what's going on now. Maybe they did find good replacements, maybe not. tl;dr - need to see actual gameplay if they want me to get excited.

[BruceVC]

26 minutes ago, Lexx said:

Tbh, that trailer gives me nothing. All we see is some combat action, but simple truth is, I rather do the talky or sneaky way in my roleplaying games. And that's pretty much what would be important to me in a new Bloodlines game... How is the dialog, what stuff can I do, and how avoidable is the combat. The new company has no (good) track record in any of that stuff, but since everyone got fired some years ago, who knows what's going on now. Maybe they did find good replacements, maybe not. tl;dr - need to see actual gameplay if they want me to get excited.

Im having a similar debate on Codex and someone correctly pointed out that Chinese Room is basically a new company with none of the previous people working for it that worked on previous adventure games 

But that doesnt mean it cant succeed if you think of Owlcat but  it still concerns me 

[melkathi]

2 hours ago, BruceVC said:

 

And one positive already it looks like there are hot women in it which means woke influence isnt dictating the artistic and aesthetic direction of the game . That will be a nice change 

 

Hey, you could be a nekkid hot woman in Saint's Row reboot. People still review bombed it for being woke

 

but Vampire always had a bit of eroticism in the genre, and you can't cut that out. It isn't a vampire story without some seduction. Some forbidden promises whispered in an ear. The lips slowly traveling lower. Without the goosebumps as they brush the neck. And the white flash as the fangs come out and pierce the flesh.

 

and you know why they only let me paint cats and not write anymore

[BruceVC]

3 minutes ago, melkathi said:

Hey, you could be a nekkid hot woman in Saint's Row reboot. People still review bombed it for being woke

 

but Vampire always had a bit of eroticism in the genre, and you can't cut that out. It isn't a vampire story without some seduction. Some forbidden promises whispered in an ear. The lips slowly traveling lower. Without the goosebumps as they brush the neck. And the white flash as the fangs come out and pierce the flesh.

 

and you know why they only let me paint cats and not write anymore

Dont stop ...just pause, I need to get a handkerchief and dab my forehead 

 

 

[uuuhhii]

pretty sure world of darkness are the most woke and sexual part of table top community

where are these complain come from

[Keyrock]

1 hour ago, BruceVC said:

Im still skeptical about if they can create a game as prestigious, iconic  and grand as Bloodlines 2 

I enjoyed Amnesia and Penumbra  but they tiny games compared to this project 

 

The Chinese Room didn't develop Amnesia: The Dark Descent nor Amnesia: Rebirth nor Amnesia: The Bunker nor any of the Penumbra games, those were all developed by Frictional Games. The Chinese Room developed Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs which is generally considered the black sheep of the series. That doesn't mean that they can't make a great game, hopefully Bloodlines 2 is fantastic, but I'm not holding my breath. 

[Hawke64]

1 hour ago, Lexx said:

Tbh, that trailer gives me nothing. All we see is some combat action, but simple truth is, I rather do the talky or sneaky way in my roleplaying games. And that's pretty much what would be important to me in a new Bloodlines game... How is the dialog, what stuff can I do, and how avoidable is the combat. The new company has no (good) track record in any of that stuff, but since everyone got fired some years ago, who knows what's going on now. Maybe they did find good replacements, maybe not. tl;dr - need to see actual gameplay if they want me to get excited.

Same, but they might have wanted to show a short trailer with functional gameplay, which is easier to do with combat rather than dialogues.

[melkathi]

55 minutes ago, Keyrock said:

but I'm not holding my breath. 

In general I would advise against holding one's breath when it comes to games development. How much more when the game is already many years delayed and on its second Dev team.

[melkathi]

The Chinese Room Devs talking how awesome TCR is.

Then you realise that TCR is short for The Chinese Room and that they have been talking about themselves the whole video. It's a bit awkward.

[Lexx]

4 minutes self fellatio and no gameplay. I dunno man. Tough sell for me.

[HoonDing]

Didn't Gehenna happen and the world got nuked or something

Edited September 4, 2023 by HoonDing

[Theonlygarby]

Am I stupid for being surprised the Chinese room is a bunch of white guys?

[MrBrown]

2 hours ago, Theonlygarby said:

Am I stupid for being surprised the Chinese room is a bunch of white guys?

I assume it's named after this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room

[Theonlygarby]

14 hours ago, MrBrown said:

I assume it's named after this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room

So yes I am dumb haha

[Hurlshort]

1 hour ago, Theonlygarby said:

So yes I am dumb haha

I had no idea either.

 

[BruceVC]

On 9/5/2023 at 4:28 AM, Theonlygarby said:

Am I stupid for being surprised the Chinese room is a bunch of white guys?

No but why would that matter? What does it imply or suggest for you 

[melkathi]

I just assumed it was a Sherlock Holmes short story.

The Hound of Baskerville

The speckled band

The Chinese room

 

[Theonlygarby]

11 hours ago, BruceVC said:

No but why would that matter? What does it imply or suggest for you 

Honestly I thought it was a Chinese game studio

[uuuhhii]

1 hour ago, Theonlygarby said:

Honestly I thought it was a Chinese game studio

so would a french studio name itself french toast

[Theonlygarby]

47 minutes ago, uuuhhii said:

so would a french studio name itself french toast

That would be pretty cool