The All Things Political Topic - Ninety percent of the politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation

[Elerond]

21 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

But going back to your post, whats your definition of being Nazi?

 

That is the difficult question as there is no simple definition of being Nazi, as it is ideology that consist of social, economical and political views.

But if person views include racial purity, supporting political alternative for capitalism and socialism, opposing liberal democracy, disdain towards minority groups especially in form that minorities are threat to said person livelihood and way to live. And if person uses 'science' to prove their superiority. Then you can be pretty sure that you are dealing with person that would have been at home in Nazi Germany.

[BruceVC]

7 minutes ago, Elerond said:

That is the difficult question as there is no simple definition of being Nazi, as it is ideology that consist of social, economical and political views.

But if person views include racial purity, supporting political alternative for capitalism and socialism, opposing liberal democracy, disdain towards minority groups especially in form that minorities are threat to said person livelihood and way to live. And if person uses 'science' to prove their superiority. Then you can be pretty sure that you are dealing with person that would have been at home in Nazi Germany.

Thanks, thats a good definition and is similar to mine

So which politicians in the US and the EU support Nazi ideology based on our definition. I know some do but I am interested in what politicians you believe support these views?

And the reason I ask is because sometimes I think we conflage a certain political view with something more  Nazi right-wing when in fact the politician only supports one thing but doesnt support the other Nazi views 

But you definitely get your real " right wing " politicians like Orban in Hungary, Im not saying he is a Nazi but he definitely has concerning  right-wing views 

 

[Gfted1]

7 hours ago, BruceVC said:

And  then you have worst possible outcome of this abuse and misuse of words like Neo-Nazi where Putin justified this hyperbole as one of the reasons for the invasion of Ukraine and some people believed it and still do and repeat this.

What if hes right? Surely theres some 80+yo nazi history bogeyman somewhere in Ukraines government closet? What if were wrong for giving them the tools to pimpslap Russia? Should we be nuking them too?

Nah, I kid. Im sure theyre squeaky clean.

[Lexx]

There's always a nazi somewhere. It's just important they stay in the minority. If the majority of your government is made up of nazis, then yeah, ****.

Edited October 4, 2022 by Lexx

[BruceVC]

2 minutes ago, Lexx said:

There's always a nazi somewhere. It's just important they stay in the minority.

Do you think the German government has numbers of overt and covert Nazi?

[Gfted1]

26 minutes ago, Lexx said:

There's always a nazi somewhere.

True that. I was today years old when learned that two very prominent Americans were card carrying Nazis! Now I cant help but to wonder why someone hasnt started a Change.org petition for the removal and smelting of all the Ford and Lindbergh statues that adorn various public properties. They must be very hurtful to the local populations.  

[Hurlshort]

Henry Ford? He's been trending down for decades. Does he even have a lot of statues? Should we really build statues of successful businesspeople? Where are the Steve Jobs and Bill Gates statues?

Lindbergh was cancelled during his own lifetime, so I'm surprised he has any statues.

[Gfted1]

Be the pebble that starts the avalanche...or the butterfly flapping that starts a hurricane. Its never too old to stamp out injustices.

[Lexx]

2 hours ago, BruceVC said:

Do you think the German government has numbers of overt and covert Nazi?

Yes.

[Gorgon]

[Gorgon]

People power versus a bunch of old fundamentalist farts.  Brave girls all of them. 

[Gfted1]

Tbh, Id be shocked to see substantial changes in Iran.

[Gorgon]

Who knows, everything starts with something. 

[BruceVC]

19 minutes ago, Gfted1 said:

Tbh, Id be shocked to see substantial changes in Iran.

Agreed, sadly you dont see many examples of autocratic or governments like Iran being overthrown or ending  through citizen  protests. The leadership and there militant supporters have too much to lose 

Especially  when the hardliners in Iran will happily deploy there security forces to arrest and kill protestors

[Amentep]

41 minutes ago, Hurlshort said:

Henry Ford? He's been trending down for decades. Does he even have a lot of statues? Should we really build statues of successful businesspeople? Where are the Steve Jobs and Bill Gates statues?

Lindbergh was cancelled during his own lifetime, so I'm surprised he has any statues.

I can think of four, one outside The Henry Ford and one at his estate Fairlane, both in Dearborn, one in the Smithsonian and the creepy one in Richmond Hill, GA. 

[Gfted1]

27 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

Who knows, everything starts with something. 

Not when it comes to religion and the nutters involved.  

@Hurlshort Lindbergh has one on the grounds of the Minnesota State Capital. Heresy!

[Gromnir]

if The People, through democratic process,  decide in 2022 that lindbergh's support o' fascism and eugenics were a bridge too far, then why shouldn't statues glorifying him be removed? is just freaking statues. we don't have government Holy Symbols in this country which must exist into perpetuity, so if you think democracy is how americans is s'posed to decide issues, then after enlightened debate over lindbergh contributions to stuff such as aviation and biomechanics, if the people decide that statues is inappropriate, then what possible rationale is there for forcing the people to endure the continued public display o' statues erected by folks dead and buried?

is no first amendment issue. if bob wants to put a statue o' lindbergh on his property then nobody is gonna stop him from doing so, just so long as it doesn't create some kinda unrelated safety hazard. if bob's statue is 100' tall and is a nuisance not 'cause o' it being a statue o' lindbergh but 'cause it is enormous, then chances are the staue may be removed by the government, but even then the government has a higher burden to overcome 'cause is bob's speech being limited.

alternative, force The People to suffer statues they don't want no more is the kinda democracy hating nonsense most americans were in the habit o' objecting to in the recent past. heresy.

@Pidesco

the onion amicus brief isn't so much a brief as an article, and the audience ain't lawyers but real people as the brief is written in easily understood english as 'posed to formulaic legal jargon.

the submission is humorous and insightful. is also clear a competent lawyer crafted the "brief."  am not recognizing "STEPHEN J. VAN STEMPVOORT," but am gonna assume he is legit and he knows his craft as well as the subject matter. 

applause deserved. thanks for sharing.

HA! Good Fun!

[Gfted1]

Exactly.

[Hurlshort]

I am curious how big the Elon Musk statue will be.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

9 minutes ago, Hurlshort said:

I am curious how big the Elon Musk statue will be.

Before or after the Tesla Air autopilot crashes into it?

[Gromnir]

2 hours ago, Hurlshort said:

I am curious how big the Elon Musk statue will be.

am gonna guess it will be smaller than his ego and his need for attention demands.

so a smidge short o' the pharaoh bender benchmark?

HA! Good Fun!

Edited October 4, 2022 by Gromnir

[Malcador]

2 hours ago, Hurlshort said:

I am curious how big the Elon Musk statue will be.

Wonder how many people will name their children after him.

[Elerond]

Real Elon fans will name their child as X Æ A-12. 

[Malcador]

Real Elon fans probably won't be breeding actually

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Real Elon friends will be breeding with Elon.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-shivon-zilis-secret-twins-neuralink-tesla