bugarup Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 I was idly wondering about that too, because those damn kids is one of (many, many...) reasons I am annoyed with JRPGS. Methinks it's because high schoolers is the major target group in Japan and gaming industry is simply catering to them? 1
Amentep Posted November 12, 2021 Author Posted November 12, 2021 The MegaTen games have had adult protaganists (Persona 2: Eternal Punishment's protagonist is an adult reporter for a teen magazine, Strange Journey's protag is a military man) but most tend to be high schoolers. I've heard that Japan sees high school as a time for learning and experimentation and that's why so many protaganists in stories (video game or not) are in high school; those with adult characters have the adults as people whose jobs give them the freedom to investigate and explore (reporter, military, royalty, martial artist traveling the world to train, mercenary). 1 I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
MrBrown Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 3 hours ago, BruceVC said: But why dont they have adults as characters or at least a combination? As I mentioned I know its not some kind of weird reason and its very normal but why use children ? Because these are made by Japanese nerds for other Japanese nerds, who have no social relationships, and the only reference point for social intercourse is school. Not that they had social relationships there either, but they saw others having them. For a less cynical answer, it's just part of the culture for anime/manga/games. I'm sure some researcher or journalist could delve deeper for some sociopsychological reason (and maybe has), but on the face of it, it's just what they do. 1 1
BruceVC Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 We could ask @HoonDing but I am worried he will give us a creepy and weird answer "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Keyrock Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 In an ideal world, one where companies honor their promised delivery date, I would be playing this right now. RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
Mamoulian War Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 6 hours ago, BruceVC said: But why dont they have adults as characters or at least a combination? As I mentioned I know its not some kind of weird reason and its very normal but why use children ? They use teenagers. The reason is, that the main demographics, which is purchasing the games in Japan are teenagers. And for that reason a lot of companies think, that old people are not as popular among these demographics. You can read little bit more about Nier release on PS3, by Square Enix, which they released two editions in Japan, because they were afraid that no one would buy the game where a main protagonist is as old fart as you and me 1 Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
Humanoid Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 I'm led to believe that once someone from Japan enters adulthood, they enter an office building wherein they will live out the remainder of their lives. 4 3 2 L I E S T R O N GL I V E W R O N G
Mamoulian War Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 Starcrawlers Chimera will get into Early Access in few days! Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
BruceVC Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, Mamoulian War said: They use teenagers. The reason is, that the main demographics, which is purchasing the games in Japan are teenagers. And for that reason a lot of companies think, that old people are not as popular among these demographics. You can read little bit more about Nier release on PS3, by Square Enix, which they released two editions in Japan, because they were afraid that no one would buy the game where a main protagonist is as old fart as you and me You right, its not fair to say children. Its teenagers they use "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
uuuhhii Posted November 12, 2021 Posted November 12, 2021 there are actually seems to be a small boom of manga and light novel with adult working setting in the past few years but vastly outnumbered by the reincarnate in another world trash that still overrun the market 2
Malcador Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 GTA remaster is an amusing fire https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-11-14-gta-the-trilogy-has-a-metacritic-aggregate-score-of-0-5 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Keyrock Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, Malcador said: GTA remaster is an amusing fire https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-11-14-gta-the-trilogy-has-a-metacritic-aggregate-score-of-0-5 What seems to be the crux of the outrage? I haven't been following this since I have no intention of buying the games. RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
Amentep Posted November 15, 2021 Author Posted November 15, 2021 New thread: I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
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