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Yes, Happy 4th July American members 🥂🍾

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Just for today:

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(...RIP Puerto Rico, Guam, U.S. Virgin Isles, et al.)

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10 minutes ago, Bartimaeus said:

Just for today:

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Kevin Costner's body is ready.

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twitch..... twitch..... must not comment.... nooooo........

IT'S NOT AMERICA'S BIRTHDAY! IT'S THE DAY THE UNITED COLONIES DECLARED INDEPEDENCE (WAR) FROM ENGLAND! THE UNITED STATES ACTUAL BIRTHDAY WAS SEPTEMBER 9TH 1776 WHEN THE THE COLONIES BECAME STATES. OR JUNE 21 1788 WHEN THE CONSTITUTION WAS RATIFIED! NOT HISTORICALLY ACCURATE!

I'm soooo sorry... I can't stop myself.... I need help! 

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is ez to forget that the british remained the single greatest foreign threat to the US until into the 20th century, and it took wwi to kinda/sorta change that pov. pretend like revolution, and then that little misunderstanding in 1812, were just kinda aberrations in a long and friendly relationship 'tween the US and the brits ignores history. heck, were brit engineers who functional designed much o' the japanese navy, and they did so knowing that there would be increasing tension 'tween us and imperial japan.  

so, as is our tradition, we warn sweary forthcoming

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not pimping samsung, but it kinda makes us smile.

HA! Good Fun!

ps sands the shouting, we will once again question gd's history on this. symbolism is important, nevertheless, july 2 or july4 is swell as to ratification by the continental congress dates... with july 2nd most appropriate.  august 2, 1776 is fine if you is a stickler for signing as were the original complaint on this matter. Constitution or articles of confederation has little to do with independence, so will ignore those dates.

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"If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927)

"Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)

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39 minutes ago, Gromnir said:

is ez to forget that the british remained the single greatest foreign threat to the US until into the 20th century, and it took wwi to kinda/sorta change that pov. pretend like revolution, and then that little misunderstanding in 1812, were just kinda aberrations in a long and friendly relationship 'tween the US and the brits ignores history. heck, were brit engineers who functional designed much o' the japanese navy, and they did so knowing that there would be increasing tension 'tween us and imperial japan.  

so, as is our tradition, we warn sweary forthcoming

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also

not pimping samsung, but it kinda makes us smile.

HA! Good Fun!

ps sands the shouting, we will once again question gd's history on this. symbolism is important, nevertheless, july 2 or july4 is swell as to ratification by the continental congress dates... with july 2nd most appropriate.  august 2, 1776 is fine if you is a stickler for signing as were the original complaint on this matter. Constitution or articles of confederation has little to do with independence, so will ignore those dates.

But the US as the political entity it is today technically didn’t exist until the current Constitution was adopted. So it’s not out of the ballpark to suggest that date. After all the Articles of Confederation would have led to a very different country had they been kept. 
 

But you do realize I am sure I’m not being serious or critical with the whole NOT HISTORICALLY ACCURATE schtick. It was just a little joke from the movie thread that’s probably getting stale

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@Guard Dogthe word is "independence." what is day of independence? the suggestion there were no independence 'til 1787 beggars the imagination. articles and constitution are a non issue.

funny. you are trying to rulez lawyer this for some reason. you think you found a flaw in the reasoning and logic, but you is utter missing. 

sheesh.

so, happy independence day.

done.

HA! Good Fun!

"If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927)

"Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)

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7 minutes ago, Gromnir said:

@Guard Dogthe word is "independence." what is day of independence? the suggestion there were no independence 'til 1787 beggars the imagination. articles and constitution are a non issue.

funny. you are trying to rulez lawyer this for some reason. you think you found a flaw in the reasoning and logic, but you is utter missing. 

sheesh.

so, happy independence day.

done.

HA! Good Fun!

😆 i’m sorry I thought the title of this thread was happy birthday!

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apologies. one last try.

the thread is also tagged as "independence day." is quibble over nomenclature. in korea, people are considered a year older than what would be their western birth date, 'cause conception matters to 'em. argue over what constitutes the birth o' the nation? fine. whatever. 

independence day were alternative july 2 or july 4, 1776 and if you get shorts in twist over signing of documents, then august 2 o' same year works. three good dates for independence and all have their place in the utter pointless argument over birthday of the nation which, as it turns out, is a somewhat arbitrary distinction for the existence o' a nation. 

go ahead and tell us what is rome's birthday. equal pointless. is pivotal dates worth knowing, but a specific birthday is gonna be debatable, and debatable only to a handful o' uptight scholars and perhaps a few history nerds who started their independence day drinking a bit early.

HA! Good Fun!

ps not continuing the argument, but am gonna suggest that for a few o' us the united states were restless gestating 'til at least 1865 when georgia final ratified the 13th amendment on december 2, abolishing slavery and granting citizenship to any and all native born, with the notable exception o' native americans who were not afforded such a right until june 2, 1924. fun fact: mississippi did not ratify the 13th amendment until 1995.

am now gonna go get our pre grilling prepared, 'cause barbeque (used as a verb) is something else. barbeque v. grill is actual worth fighting 'bout btw.

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"If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927)

"Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)

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Happy B-day to my country!

Hopefully we'll get our s--t together soon so we can have another prosperous 245 years and not go the wayside.

Even so, if we wind up a 2nd rate country in the near future, I'd say it's better to be a happy and peaceful 2nd rate country, then a miserable and violent superpower.

The next few years will determine our future.

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I didn't want to name the thread "Happy Independence Day" because people might post references to an overrated 1996 movie. :shifty:

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46 minutes ago, Keyrock said:

I didn't want to name the thread "Happy Independence Day" because people might post references to an overrated 1996 movie. :shifty:

 

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26 minutes ago, LadyCrimson said:

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I gotta admit that it doesn't get much more American than referencing an overrated 25 year old movie to peddle mediocre at best beer. I do love me some grizzled Bill Pullman, though.

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Washington's finishing move was called "Crossing the Delaware" apparently.  Surprised it looks like a 3/4 facelock jawbreaker though; always figured it'd be more of a crucifix powerbomb.  The things you find out these days with all the scholarship into the history of professional wrestling in the US.

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