Malcador Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 SR4 was terrible 1 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Malcador said: SR4 was terrible Blasphemy. SR4 had the best iteration of the best mini-game, Insurance Fraud. 1 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeYellow Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 8 hours ago, kanisatha said: To be fair, CDP has very clearly and explicitly said they are NOT doing Witcher 4 and that Geralt's story is over and done. What they are doing is a fourth game using the Witcher franchise (and presumably the Witcher setting). We (and others) are simply calling it Witcher 4 as a kind of shorthand. But it's not really Witcher 4, and (again going by CDP's public statements) won't even be titled "Witcher" anything. Good. Glad to see developers are in conjunction with many players who are getting tired of sequel after sequel with the same characters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Malcador said: SR4 was terrible 5 hours ago, Keyrock said: Blasphemy. SR4 had the best iteration of the best mini-game, Insurance Fraud. You are both Heathens, nothing comes close to the glory that is Saints Row 2 and Septic Avenger! 1 Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Azdeus said: You are both Heathens, nothing comes close to the glory that is Saints Row 2 and Septic Avenger! The only SR I ever played was SR3 I only played it in co-op with a friend though (and she's a killer with a gun!). No idea what it would have been like playing it solo (Some of the DLC stuff was pretty fun too, like the sci-fi parts, silly, but fun when doing it co-op) 1 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Azdeus said: You are both Heathens, nothing comes close to the glory that is Saints Row 2 and Septic Avenger! 5 minutes ago, Gorth said: The only SR I ever played was SR3 I only played it in co-op with a friend though (and she's a killer with a gun!). No idea what it would have been like playing it solo (Some of the DLC stuff was pretty fun too, like the sci-fi parts, silly, but fun when doing it co-op) I played and completed SR3 & 4 and they were fun, nothing compared to the brilliant GTA series of course but the game design is intentionally not suppose to be the same They the type of game series I would only recommend you buy when they on a huge discount , 70-90 %, on Steam or other gaming distribution websites "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I really want to like SR4 the most, because it has so much funny crap in it, but sadly it made driving cars and stuff completely useless, which is why I find SR3 better. 2 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 https://www.destructoid.com/stories/take-two-posts-record-3-37-billion-in-revenue-has-huge-release-plans-for-the-coming-years-629847.phtml Here is some good news from the owners of GTA and RDR2, record profits and of course this bodes well for gaming generally so its good news for all of us irrespective if this profitability is about the holding company Take-Two "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 They will just do more crap for the online parts. No thanks. Take-Two can eat it and die for all I care. 3 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 https://www.polygon.com/22444608/resident-evil-horror-eugenics-military-government-themes I found this article interesting but I am never convinced by false equivalences to developments or historical crimes linked to thinks like white supremacy only ( The Japanese in WW2 also believed and practiced eugenics as mentioned )or Capitalism ....I dont see the valid connection between an economic system and the flawed science of eugenics? But its a good read....I love the confirmation bias at the end of the article where the writer says " but what truly makes it a classic is its ever-evolving narrative that reflects the fears in our modern society: eugenics, white supremacy, the military industrial complex, and capitalism " Since when did Capitalism become something our societies fear....by that argument does that mean we do not fear socialism or Communism ? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Lexx said: They will just do more crap for the online parts. No thanks. Take-Two can eat it and die for all I care. What ????? Dont you like Take Two, what about its subsidiary companies like Rockstar Games? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanisatha Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 21 hours ago, BruceVC said: Thats interesting, but that really leaves loads of questions ...we dont even know who the main character will be but that shouldnt be an issue yet. I can think of lots exciting ideas of narratives for the main quest so CDPR will be fine with all their talented writers For example it could be about another Witcher trying to rebuild his specific Witcher school, like the School of Vipers? And if its not even about a Witcher their are plenty of other stories and events to integrate the game into like something Nilfgaardian ? Anyway I am going to be positive until something makes me question that At one time one of these individuals long associated with the The Witcher series (may be one of those who's now left) posted on social media asking fans what they thought of the game being about Ciri's post-TW3 life. And yes, it could also be about some other witcher. But I believe CDP has stated that when it comes to the game's title, they see "THE Witcher" as Geralt, whose story is done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 22 hours ago, BruceVC said: Thats interesting, but that really leaves loads of questions ...we dont even know who the main character will be but that shouldnt be an issue yet. It could very much be an issue IMO. What made Witchers great was that Geralt is perfectly suited for an RPG with narrative choices, with a heavily defined protagonist - even back in books he is a neutral party with his own goals, having to deal with outside forces and "choosing the lesser evil" - a perfect RPG protagonist with set motivations and goals, and yet space to allow players to make choices. Trying to do the same but with Ciri or a new character could not work so well. I am not terribly worried though - CDPR "got" Witcher world well, and at this point I doubt they will majorily mess it up, even if W4 will be weaker then W3. Even Thronebreaker, from what I played, was more or less alright. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeYellow Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wormerine said: It could very much be an issue IMO. What made Witchers great was that Geralt is perfectly suited for an RPG with narrative choices, with a heavily defined protagonist - even back in books he is a neutral party with his own goals, having to deal with outside forces and "choosing the lesser evil" - a perfect RPG protagonist with set motivations and goals, and yet space to allow players to make choices. Trying to do the same but with Ciri or a new character could not work so well. I am not terribly worried though - CDPR "got" Witcher world well, and at this point I doubt they will majorily mess it up, even if W4 will be weaker then W3. Even Thronebreaker, from what I played, was more or less alright. How about an RPG where you can be all sorts of alignments and funnel your own narrative? Good, Bad, and Ugly. To me that's a perfect RPG protagonist, not constant Clint Eastwood larping. Edited May 24, 2021 by ComradeYellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 SR4 was one of the funnest and funniest games I've ever had the pleasure of experiencing. I don't even like those kinds of games but SR4 was transcendent. 3 Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 13 hours ago, Gorth said: The only SR I ever played was SR3 SR2 is worth playing. It's... interesting. They haven't totally embraced the wacky like SR3 and 4 did, and the story runs through some elements that one minute is insanely over the top and has you giggling, and then it serves up something horrifying and emotionally a gut punch. Before running right back to giggling insane. You can definitely see how they were trying to find their unique identity, and they still manage to pull in Keith David, along with Neil Patrick Harris as Veteran Child just makes it so worthwhile. 3 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, ComradeYellow said: How about an RPG where you can be all sorts of alignments and funnel your own narrative? Good, Bad, and Ugly. To me that's a perfect RPG protagonist, not constant Clint Eastwood larping. Sure, but that's unrealistic if you also want to be nice looking game, with cinematics and good VO (see: Baldur's Gate3 and the Mistery of Confused Identity), and if you make an adaptation of book series, with Clint-Eastwood-but-fantasy protagonist - seriously, first short story recreates opening of A Fistfull of Dollars/Yojimbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I've played SR3 and SR4 (and Gat out of Hell, but let's not talk about that one) in coop with a friend and that made them even better, because you could laught about stuff together and just **** around in the game world. 1 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, Lexx said: I've played SR3 and SR4 (and Gat out of Hell, but let's not talk about that one) in coop with a friend and that made them even better, because you could laught about stuff together and just **** around in the game world. Hey, don't diss on Gat out of Hell. Who didn't want a musical and Daniel Dae Kim belting out those numbers? "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Raithe said: SR2 is worth playing. It's... interesting. They haven't totally embraced the wacky like SR3 and 4 did, and the story runs through some elements that one minute is insanely over the top and has you giggling, and then it serves up something horrifying and emotionally a gut punch. Before running right back to giggling insane. You can definitely see how they were trying to find their unique identity, and they still manage to pull in Keith David, along with Neil Patrick Harris as Veteran Child just makes it so worthwhile. Those Brotherhood missions 1 Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, Raithe said: Who didn't want a musical and Daniel Dae Kim belting out those numbers? This is the only good thing that came out of that product. Might as well just look it up on youtube instead of wasting time and suffering through the rest of it. 1 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Gat Out of Hell was definitely a disappointment, but you did get to play as the best Saints Row character, Kinzie Kensingston. You could play as Johnny Gat as well. 1 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Volition needs to make another Freespace game and leave this Saints Row nonsense behind 2 1 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melkathi Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 15 hours ago, Lexx said: I really want to like SR4 the most, because it has so much funny crap in it, but sadly it made driving cars and stuff completely useless, which is why I find SR3 better. That's absolutely how I feel as well. I did mean to replay SR4's Christmas DLC for Christmas every year. But I keep forgetting Unobtrusively informing you about my new ebook (which you should feel free to read and shower with praise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Malcador said: Volition needs to make another Freespace game Ah! My personal Half-Life3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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