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1 minute ago, Guard Dog said:

Fair enough. There really has not been a shift though. If you break down this election along with the last five going back to the year 2000 the patterns are kind of similar. 2008 and 2012 might be exceptions but Obama was a particularly strong candidate. Otherwise were the candidates have been evenly matched what states and what counties voted what way appears quite predictable 

You're still confusing blue shift with blue wave.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_shift_(politics)

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Looking right now Biden has won just over half the percentage of votes and leads by over 2.5 million. Both have at a few million more than they did in 2016 as well.

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2 minutes ago, HoonDing said:

Why hasn't NC been updated in ages? Mail-in ballots?

Yes

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@Guard DogYou keep mentioning that House seats are being lost by Dems and that is a Republican positive, but isn't that the same as what the dems did in the Senate? They are going to pick up two seats, it seems, but still not have the majority.

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17 minutes ago, Guard Dog said:

Apparently Wisconsin is reporting more votes in their results then we’re actually cast.

They have some grey logic behind how they mark mail in and early votes, which they are currently counting. Considering that all but two of their counties report 100% of votes counted and those two which have still votes uncounted have less than 10k votes uncounted, but they report that ~5% of total votes have not yet counted. 

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12 minutes ago, Achilles said:

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I do not think there would be such a stir now, if this lead would errode over time and as in case of these pictures, whenever one got some votes the other got some as well, you can see the jumps for both. 

What is a cause for a reaction is both the timing and the ratio of these sudden increases, which affected the balance in Biden's favor. 

You will really need to come up with some really good explanation for that (100k+ votes 100% in favor of one person counted in at around 5AM in the highly contested areas) , and I do not think you will be able to calm a lot of these people. 

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4 minutes ago, InsaneCommander said:

This is gonna get ugly. If the president refuses to leave, who takes him out? The police? The military?

Some group that can scale the unscalable fence he had erected around the white house, I suppose.

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7 minutes ago, InsaneCommander said:

This is gonna get ugly. If the president refuses to leave, who takes him out? The police? The military?

Well he'll have to go golfing some time.  Then they just change the locks.   But if he loses, his authority has an end date so.

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10 minutes ago, InsaneCommander said:

This is gonna get ugly. If the president refuses to leave, who takes him out? The police? The military?

Everyone just laughs at the silly jackass in plans a transition without him. Hell his own party won’t even support him then.

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1 minute ago, Malcador said:

Well he'll have to go golfing some time.  Then they just change the locks.   But if he loses, his authority has an end date so.

Trump loses, but refuses to concede. He steps down. President Pence concedes, then pardons Trump. President Biden is sworn in 1/20/21.

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4 minutes ago, Malcador said:

Well he'll have to go golfing some time.  Then they just change the locks.   But if he loses, his authority has an end date so.

 

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2 minutes ago, Achilles said:

Trump loses, but refuses to concede. He steps down. President Pence concedes, then pardons Trump. President Biden is sworn in 1/20/21.

😆 not like there isn’t a precedent for that chain of events 

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4 minutes ago, Guard Dog said:

😆 not like there isn’t a precedent for that chain of events 

I'm assuming you're referring to Nixon?

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1 minute ago, ComradeMaster said:

Interesting...

lol. Who's "they"?

If some network called WI for Trump, then it's on the internet somewhere. AP sure didn't do it.

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6 minutes ago, Achilles said:

I'm assuming you're referring to Nixon?

Yes. Unless you can think of another president who resigned and left town with a pardon from his replacement

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In Milwaukee, they counted ~170k absentee of which ~138k for Biden.

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Regardless of who wins, the outcome will undoubtedly be contested. Good, let the chaos ensue and let it occupy the minds of prospective AMD Ryzen buyers for the next couple days. Y'all don't need to buy a processor tomorrow, the fate of the free world is at stake! Go out and protest or blog or whatever. :-

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