Radeon Thread

[Azdeus]

1 hour ago, Pidesco said:

Inet?

Yuup

At the release hour all the cards were listed as 50+

And inet customers don't like, ever, buy AMDs stuff

[Pidesco]

If AMD could sort out their supply issues and priced their cards at reasonable prices, they'd take over the GPU market.

[Zoraptor]

The supply issues are largely not fixable, at least by AMD. That's a fab space issue, and fundamentally a problem with TSMC not really having any competitors. You cannot step up production on the fly because there's no excess capacity and you have to plan the allocations out many months- up to a year- ahead of time and hope you get things right. The real illustration of that is how many 9800x3d sales AMD are leaving on the table with their constant lack of availability, and that is far higher margin than mid range consumer GPUs and thus far higher priority.

nVidia has the same problem consumer side. Perhaps even worse, since AMD has a wider range of products to be flexible with and a better relationship with TSMC.

Only a limited amount AMD can do about the prices too. When they were selling their own branded reference cards from their website they were MSRP even when retail was higher, but they certainly cannot force 3rd party vendors or card partners to adhere to even MSRP long term (practically, outside of the launch window). They're the #2 maker by a wide margin, they simply don't have the leverage.

[Sven_]

I'm personally more interested in who's the first to decisively beat the raw rendering power of the 2020 3060 Ti -- but for 300 bucks (or lower). Back then, that was a 400 MSRP card.

2025, still nothing.

You can genuinelly see this "entry level Ghetto" by now visually in PC Games Hardware's reviews of the more recent cards in their overall rankings. 

 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Sven_