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POLL - MOST POWERFUL AND WEAKEST CLASS POST PATCH 3.00


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Poll: MOST POWERFUL CLASS POST PATCH 3.00 (36 member(s) have cast votes)

NOMINATE THE CLASS YOU THINK IS MOST POWERFUL POST PATCH 3.00

  1. Fighter (2 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

  2. Paladin (5 votes [13.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.89%

  3. Chanter (1 votes [2.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.78%

  4. Rogue (3 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  5. Barbarian (1 votes [2.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.78%

  6. Ranger (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Wizard (15 votes [41.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.67%

  8. Druid (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. Priest (1 votes [2.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.78%

  10. Cipher (1 votes [2.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.78%

  11. Monk (7 votes [19.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.44%

NOMINATE THE CLASS YOU THINK IS THE WEAKEST POST PATCH 3.00

  1. Fighter (2 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

  2. Paladin (1 votes [2.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.78%

  3. Chanter (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Rogue (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Barbarian (5 votes [13.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.89%

  6. Ranger (6 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

  7. Wizard (2 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

  8. Druid (4 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  9. Priest (9 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  10. Cipher (7 votes [19.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.44%

  11. Monk (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#41
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nice...may someone could mod the scaling damage thing :)



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Arguably, there is no true obvious "weakest class" at the moment.

All classes have enough perks to be worth a slot in a party (Priest has decent AoE buffs, AoE affliction removal and decent AoE damages spells at high level).

 

That doesn't mean Priest, Barbs, etc... couldn't get a couple of improvements (too many meh spells and Barbaric Blows cost a bit too much).

 

I also think that Martial Single Classes should get a bit more ressource but that's another debate.

 

 

For strongest classes, Wiz seems to be the clear winner, and Monk gets the silver medal.

The ability to change Grimoire is incredibly versatile on its own (even if not "gamebreaking" IMHO. EDIT : as Boeroer said, I agree it is indeed a bit gambreaking for Multiclass) and Empowered Missile Slavo (and maybe meteor swarm) feels a bit OP too.
Monk is excellent in general and its Tier 9 is borderline OP.

​Probably a slight nerf could be a necessary evil for these 2 classes.
 


Edited by Elric Galad, 12 October 2018 - 01:56 AM.


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As a multiclass wizard you don't need to pick a single spell at lvl-up if you carry a good selection of grimoires with you. Put everything into the other class and pick some passives if you are forced to pick a wizard ability.

You can still cast all spells you want while having lots of other awesome abilities. Played a Sage like this - all the monk goodies with the spells from the wizard. Other casters need some cool trinket effect, too. I wonder why we don't see priest-only trinkets that add some spell uses or something. This can't be hard to do.
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I wonder why we don't see priest-only trinkets that add some spell uses or something. This can't be hard to do.

 

I think it's the idea behind Priest and Druid subclass design : all of them give 1 spell per PL by default. You don't have to pick a single spell ability to be able to cast and use all your spell PL slots.

Of course it is far worse than Grimoire. Grimoire belongs to another league.

 

Druids/Priests get Spiritshift/Radiance at "level 0".

Wiz doesn't get a "level 0" ability. Grimoire swapping has probably be designed as their level 0 ability. And it is far stronger than other caster's.


Edited by Elric Galad, 12 October 2018 - 03:18 AM.


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Out of curiousity: Wizard is voted highest because of minolettas missiles?



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Greater adaptability through Grimoures and buffs that make you very tanky, as well as having lots of dps. 



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As a multiclass wizard you don't need to pick a single spell at lvl-up if you carry a good selection of grimoires with you. Put everything into the other class and pick some passives if you are forced to pick a wizard ability.

You can still cast all spells you want while having lots of other awesome abilities. Played a Sage like this - all the monk goodies with the spells from the wizard. Other casters need some cool trinket effect, too. I wonder why we don't see priest-only trinkets that add some spell uses or something. This can't be hard to do.

I loved playing as a Battlemage for the reasons you explain: I was able to put almost all skill points into the Fighter and just carry Llengrath's Grimoire.  Wizard MC is very enjoyable...I can't imagine any use for Priest MC.

 I complained about Grimoires having no equivalent for casting classes except Wizard, and I asked for Priest-only trinkets, early after the launch. It is outrageous because the absurdly overpowered Grimoire of Vaporous Wizardry has no equivalent for any other class. Trinkets were a great way to make melee classes more viable relative to casters, but definitely Priests and other casters deserve special trinkets ASAP.


 


Edited by lpro, 12 October 2018 - 10:32 AM.


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Assassin/Priest of Skaen is very enjoyable for me.

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Shaman - Berserker / Priest could be good. Because it has nearly the same buffs as a Thaumaturge (Wizard / Priest).

 

Berserker - Tenacious +5 MIG and Hardy +5 CON, Lion's Sprint - Nimble +5 Dex, Blessing - Insightful +5 PER, Litany for the Spirit - Acute +5 Int.

 

With BDD and Salvation of Time and as a Human, you can be always at bloodied or near death, without the fear to die.

 

Wizard / Rogue probably the strongest atm and Ranger / Druid weakest.






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