Why is Perception not highlighted for Spellcasters when all spells have horrible accuracy?

[Stardusk78]

It strikes me as literally the most important stat in the game, especially for spellcasters, yet it is not officially suggested. Any thoughts?

[mosspit]

Officially suggested as in how? You mean during character creation where you allocate the stats?

[Stardusk78]

  On 8/5/2018 at 3:01 PM, mosspit said:

Officially suggested as in how? You mean during character creation where you allocate the stats?

Yes. Low Perception means your spells don't hit. Pretty not cool imo.

[MaxQuest]

  On 8/5/2018 at 2:58 PM, Stardusk78 said:

It strikes me as literally the most important stat in the game, especially for spellcasters, yet it is not officially suggested. Any thoughts?

Because... it depends.

 

For example I have a lifegiver with 3 PER in party. He doesn't ever cast anything hostile.

 

Or another (milder) example: do have a damage-dealing priest on whom I have 14 PER. I don't max it because other stats because I need maxed MIG and INT on him, plus will have other party members lowering enemy resolve.

 

I think the main spellcasters on whom PER is absolutely vital and should be maxed most of the time - are the cc-focused ones.

[Franknstein]

  On 8/5/2018 at 4:05 PM, MaxQuest said:

 

  On 8/5/2018 at 2:58 PM, Stardusk78 said:

It strikes me as literally the most important stat in the game, especially for spellcasters, yet it is not officially suggested. Any thoughts?

Because... it depends.

 

For example I have a lifegiver with 3 PER in party. He doesn't ever cast anything hostile.

 

Or another (milder) example: do have a damage-dealing priest on whom I have 14 PER. I don't max it because other stats because I need maxed MIG and INT on him, plus will have other party members lowering enemy resolve.

 

I think the main spellcasters on whom PER is absolutely vital and should be maxed most of the time - are the cc-focused ones.

 

 

Did you max Resolve on any of this characters? Resolve is starred gold for all "divine" spellcasters. Like, Durance must have been the best NPC priest ever, eh? =)

 

It is not super important, but I do think that this rattings are useless at best. Misleading and confusing for new players at worst.

[dunehunter]

Because spells can target 3 different defenses, while physical attack usually only target deflection. It is way less brainless than it was in PoE 1.

[Boeroer]

What do you mean? The recommended stats or that attack rolls target different defenses?

 

I think the recommended resolve is still from beta where RES was boosting spell and healing damage.

Edited August 5, 2018 by Boeroer

[MaxQuest]

  On 8/5/2018 at 5:22 PM, Franknstein said:

Did you max Resolve on any of this characters? Resolve is starred gold for all "divine" spellcasters. Like, Durance must have been the best NPC priest ever, eh? =)

 

It is not super important, but I do think that this rattings are useless at best. Misleading and confusing for new players at worst.

I have 3 RES on those characters. Actually I have dumped RES on absolutely all characters in Deadfire v1.0+ so far.

 

Resolve is useful for builds that go for maxing deflection in order to become almost unhittable by majority of phys attacks.

But I personally find that there are other more time-efficient approaches (for a 5-man party at least). Plus there is still stuff that hits other 3 defenses.

 

As for RES being marked as recommended stat... it's probably as Boeroer mentioned a remain from beta 3 when RES was increasing spell dmg and healing done.

Edited August 5, 2018 by MaxQuest

[Franknstein]

Resolve is being recommended for priests and druids from the times of PoE I . Still no idea why. Iron willed and dodgy kith of faith?

 

I do agree that there might be lots of cases where Perception isn't the most important stat. It's the good thing about the game – lots of valid options.

 

But as a *general* recomendation for where to spend your stat points? While you don't have even a general idea what all those numbers realy mean (and that would be, I think, the only moment when you pay attention to those rattings)? Perception, Dexterity and Intelligence beat all the rest for all classes. No?

Edited August 5, 2018 by Franknstein

[Malkoy]

I don't accuracy matters THAT much without PotD buffed npcs. If you embark on magical PotD journey, I think the devs expect your game knowledge to surpass the need for little golden and silver stars.

 

This game is very rich in mechanics. It took me 3 characters with Serafen's mortars, to realize that mortars as weapons target reflex with auto attacks instead of deflection as you would normally expect from weapon auto-attacks.

 

I have a Pally/Priest healer in party that is not meant to harm/target enemies. His only job is to heal,buff and survive, he has maxed Might/Int with the rest going into resolve, and could care less for accuracy/perception.

 

My Streetfighter Grenadier has -10 Acc from Blunderbuss weapon type and -5 Perception from Distracted modal and is also is main dps for party on PotD (+15 all def on enemies). I have leveled her Perception to 18 (20 with Berath Blessing)at the strart and focused background and everything else on +int for AoE area. So even though I have 30 acc handicap, it is still less favored by me than Int due to items and buffs available).

 

 

I see your point that with spells being limited as opposed by auto attacks, misses hurt more, but then again: wizards get Eldritch Aim available at level one, priests have Perception bonus spells at levels 1 & 3. Not only these boost your accuracy by five, but they give you ridiculous bonus of Graze-Hit starting at "Aware".

 

With party play, my Wiz will always start with self buffing before commencing with offensive casts. By the time he/she is done, he/she will have +acc and enemies will have -defense from priest. 

 

If you want to go even deeper, different spells target different defenses, and you can target maluses towards enabling certain spells:

-Ninagauth's Shadowflame Paralyze will target Fortitude, aim to reduce it with Might/Constitution maluses  on enemies, then unleash you Ninagauth's Shadowflame to see them paralyzed.

-Aim for reflex defense maluses (Dex/Perception) for big AoE damage

-Aim for WIll (Int/Resolve) for status spells like Arkemyr Torment/Hex

 

FYI I have not played druid yet to comment on them.