Unavailable Content? Research [LETS DISCUSS]

[Tick]

Hey all,

 

I wanna go over this with a fine tooth comb but honestly I just cant with the time I got. Any big hitters you guys want me to ask the devs if its in game or on a loot list?

I'm really curious what the story is with gift of hope. There were also a couple other not available abilities I was curious about but I've forgotten the names.

 

It doesn't super matter to me if the answer was, "it got cut," I'm more interested in the story behind why it was thought up and then cut or if it not showing up is just a bug.

[Cdiaz]

 

Hey all,

 

I wanna go over this with a fine tooth comb but honestly I just cant with the time I got. Any big hitters you guys want me to ask the devs if its in game or on a loot list?

I'm really curious what the story is with gift of hope. There were also a couple other not available abilities I was curious about but I've forgotten the names.

 

It doesn't super matter to me if the answer was, "it got cut," I'm more interested in the story behind why it was thought up and then cut or if it not showing up is just a bug.

 

Yeah I checked on this yesterday to see it got cut, but lemme probe a bit more as to why it did, I'd also like to know whats the story there

[Tick]

 

 

Hey all,

 

I wanna go over this with a fine tooth comb but honestly I just cant with the time I got. Any big hitters you guys want me to ask the devs if its in game or on a loot list?

I'm really curious what the story is with gift of hope. There were also a couple other not available abilities I was curious about but I've forgotten the names.

 

It doesn't super matter to me if the answer was, "it got cut," I'm more interested in the story behind why it was thought up and then cut or if it not showing up is just a bug.

Yeah I checked on this yesterday to see it got cut, but lemme probe a bit more as to why it did, I'd also like to know whats the story there

Oh cool! Good to know!

 

Thank you!

[Cdiaz]

Here's what I got back from the devs:

 

"Josh wanted to reward players with a passive talent if the didnt sacrifice anyone to the blood pool. For one reason or another, later on that passive was never awarded to the player in dialogue, and was cut as a resolution to a bug on Josh."

 

Thats all the info they'd impart with me

[Abel]

That would have solved the imbalance there was in first game where evil deeds where rewarded while good were not. If this was the idea behind this cut perk, i may consider adding it with console at some point, since i never sacrificed anyone.

[flazeo25]

So is Wodica soul power ability your meant to get from giving her souls in poe1 cut or obtainable?

[Tick]

Here's what I got back from the devs:

 

"Josh wanted to reward players with a passive talent if the didnt sacrifice anyone to the blood pool. For one reason or another, later on that passive was never awarded to the player in dialogue, and was cut as a resolution to a bug on Josh."

 

Thats all the info they'd impart with me

Oh interesting! Good to know. Thank you for sharing! :D

[peardox]

I can tell you that The Red Hand is not available by any means I can discover.

 

I've got a Waenglith test that gives me anything I want (manually editing for Mods)

 

Yep, I'm a Modder - it's marked as SPOLIERS (not seen one in ages) - come visit us HERE  (it's technical and boring to all but a few) - the thing is that if you make a sensible post there someone will eventually help you out.

 

So, I'm still identifying the orphaned items (the ones you can't get)

 

I've built up a huge amount of over this stuff,

 

At the time of writing I only know what's NOT in-game (not if it's any good or now)

 

I take it people are after Uniques?

 

If the group can gimme a top 10/20 I'll write a Mod so you can buy them all.

 

Please note that Modding is encouraged by Obsidian (I was asked recently if using a Mod would kill someones Achievements - the answer is no)

 

Indeed, the Mod community are in contact with the Devs so we can further expand POE2.

Edited June 27, 2018 by peardox

[omgFIREBALLS]

Not all heroes wear capes! Or shirts that cover their bellies. Would you also be able to mod in some missing talents, as rewards for certain decisions as the Founding Fathers Obsidian intended?

[peardox]

We've been discussing that in Mods recently but I'll cross-post this for you...

 

Can other ppl simply post directly to https://forums.obsidian.net/forum/131-pillars-of-eternity-ii-deadfire-modding-spoiler-warning/

 

For anything not specifically on-topic

 

We're a nice bunch and willing to help

[Khagmas]

So is Wodica soul power ability your meant to get from giving her souls in poe1 cut or obtainable?

 

 

It is unavailable content. I tried to update the information in the posts to make it correspond to reality.

 

If we be aware anything, we will immediately add this.

 

Edited June 27, 2018 by Khagmas

[Khagmas]

Here's what I got back from the devs:

 

"Josh wanted to reward players with a passive talent if the didnt sacrifice anyone to the blood pool. For one reason or another, later on that passive was never awarded to the player in dialogue, and was cut as a resolution to a bug on Josh."

 

Thats all the info they'd impart with me

Many thanks for this information about 'Gift of Hope' talent, Cdiaz.

 

After this developers response, I'm more inclined to think that they will not return this talent.

 

Can I ask about the fate of the remaining skills (and etc.) that were found?

 

Can we expect that some of them will still be added to DLCs?

 

 

Talents (see posts #2 and #3):

 

Gift of Hope (for this talent now we have answer - Post#79)

• Adaptive
• Persistent
• Soul Power
• Bound Shade
• Vielo Vidorio
• Savage Cunning
• Slave's Silence
• Oppressor's Rage
• Social Order
• Compassion
• Inner Glow

and about The Red Hand - Arquebus and Iztala (Unavailable crew member - Post#35)?

 

P.S: All this works well, but this can be obtained only through the console.

 

Edited June 29, 2018 by Khagmas

[peardox]

I'm in the middle of MOD testing

 

Before you ask, yes, you get The Red Hand plus 43 others (this number will drop a bit on release)

 

Below is a list of items that appear to be un-referenced in the game

 

This list is, I believe, inclusive of every Unique item unavailable in-game (minus a few such as character Uniques)

 

The full list is far more extensive - there are 1,035 in total

 

I have to expand my search to guarantee this list is correct

 

Can avid players check this list to see if I've included anything stupid?

 

I'm aware of Great Sword - tuning this takes time so a few (e.g. Great Sword) won't be in the final

 

I'm placing the MOD on Eofania who can be found in Sātahuzi outside Port Maje

 

I'll give everyone a shout on release...

 

Aamiina's Legacy
Acina's Tricorn
Arkemyr's Grimoire
Blackened Plate Armor
Blackened Plate Helm
Boltcatchers
Cauldron Shard
Chameleon's Touch
Cloak of Berath
Cloak of the Obsidian Order
Cowl of the Piercing Gaze
Defiant Apparel
Deltro's Cage
Devil of Caroc Breastplate
Effort
Endre's Flog of Obedience
Fenan's Finery
Fleshmender
Gaun's Pledge
Gipon Prudensco
Great Sword
Humility
Ibis
Iron-Clasped Grimoire
Kana's Hat
Lance of the Midwood Stag
Nomad's Brigandine
Onepahua's Strength
Orishia
Precognition
Ring of the Solitary Wanderer
Saint's War Armor
Salve of Dissolution
Sharpshooter's Garb
Skullcrusher
Soul Void
Street Sweeper
Tears of Saint Makawo
The Iroccian Calendar (Rare)
The Maker's Own Power
The Red Hand
Violet Redemption
Wahaki Tua
Wicked Beast

 

[peardox]

Rats - just tried a Bounty item

 

Tears of Saint Makawo is lootable

 

The list is going to be shorter

[Kohwalter]

I'm in the middle of MOD testing

 

Before you ask, yes, you get The Red Hand plus 43 others (this number will drop a bit on release)

 

Below is a list of items that appear to be un-referenced in the game

 

This list is, I believe, inclusive of every Unique item unavailable in-game (minus a few such as character Uniques)

 

The full list is far more extensive - there are 1,035 in total

 

I have to expand my search to guarantee this list is correct

 

Can avid players check this list to see if I've included anything stupid?

 

I'm aware of Great Sword - tuning this takes time so a few (e.g. Great Sword) won't be in the final

 

I'm placing the MOD on Eofania who can be found in Sātahuzi outside Port Maje

 

I'll give everyone a shout on release...

 

Aamiina's Legacy

Acina's Tricorn

Arkemyr's Grimoire

Blackened Plate Armor

Blackened Plate Helm

Boltcatchers

Cauldron Shard

Chameleon's Touch

Cloak of Berath

Cloak of the Obsidian Order

Cowl of the Piercing Gaze

Defiant Apparel

Deltro's Cage

Devil of Caroc Breastplate

Effort

Endre's Flog of Obedience

Fenan's Finery

Fleshmender

Gaun's Pledge

Gipon Prudensco

Great Sword

Humility

Ibis

Iron-Clasped Grimoire

Kana's Hat

Lance of the Midwood Stag

Nomad's Brigandine

Onepahua's Strength

Orishia

Precognition

Ring of the Solitary Wanderer

Saint's War Armor

Salve of Dissolution

Sharpshooter's Garb

Skullcrusher

Soul Void

Street Sweeper

Tears of Saint Makawo

The Iroccian Calendar (Rare)

The Maker's Own Power

The Red Hand

Violet Redemption

Wahaki Tua

Wicked Beast

Erm... Most of the itens you said in that list are actualy in the game...

 

Effort you get from the Archmage quest, Acina's Tricorn you buy from a merchant, Gaun's Pledge you get in the beginning of the game, same with Berath's Cloak and Obsidian's.

Defiant Apparel is from the DLC...

[Kohwalter]

Maybe you could read the Wiki page... most of those are already there with their locations/bounties

[peardox]

Try these

 

Prob a better list

 

Acina's Tricorn
Arkemyr's Grimoire
Blackened Plate Helm
Boltcatchers
Cauldron Shard
Defiant Apparel
Fenan's Finery
Iron-Clasped Grimoire
Kana's Hat
Onepahua's Strength
Orishia
The Iroccian Calendar (Rare)
The Maker's Own Power
The Red Hand
Violet Redemption
Wahaki Tua

[1TTFFSSE]

I'm in the middle of MOD testing

 

Before you ask, yes, you get The Red Hand plus 43 others (this number will drop a bit on release)

 

Below is a list of items that appear to be un-referenced in the game

 

This list is, I believe, inclusive of every Unique item unavailable in-game (minus a few such as character Uniques)

 

The full list is far more extensive - there are 1,035 in total

 

I have to expand my search to guarantee this list is correct

 

Can avid players check this list to see if I've included anything stupid?

 

I'm aware of Great Sword - tuning this takes time so a few (e.g. Great Sword) won't be in the final

 

I'm placing the MOD on Eofania who can be found in Sātahuzi outside Port Maje

 

I'll give everyone a shout on release...

 

Aamiina's Legacy - bounty drop

Acina's Tricorn

Arkemyr's Grimoire

Blackened Plate Armor

Blackened Plate Helm

Boltcatchers

Cauldron Shard

Chameleon's Touch

Cloak of Berath

Cloak of the Obsidian Order

Cowl of the Piercing Gaze

Defiant Apparel

Deltro's Cage

Devil of Caroc Breastplate

Effort

Endre's Flog of Obedience

Fenan's Finery

Fleshmender

Gaun's Pledge

Gipon Prudensco

Great Sword

Humility

Ibis

Iron-Clasped Grimoire

Kana's Hat

Lance of the Midwood Stag

Nomad's Brigandine

Onepahua's Strength

Orishia

Precognition

Ring of the Solitary Wanderer

Saint's War Armor

Salve of Dissolution

Sharpshooter's Garb

Skullcrusher

Soul Void

Street Sweeper

Tears of Saint Makawo

The Iroccian Calendar (Rare)

The Maker's Own Power

The Red Hand

Violet Redemption

Wahaki Tua

Wicked Beast

Aamiina's Legacy - drops from a bounty quest

Acina's Tricorn - shop merchant in Tikawara

Arkemyr's Grimoire - drops from Arkemyr

Blackened Plate Armor - in Splinterred Reef sub boss fight drop

Blackened Plate Helm -  in Splinterred Reef sub boss fight drop

Boltcatchers - drops from a bounty quest

Cauldron Shard - in outcast's respite

Chameleon's Touch -  drops from a bounty quest

Cloak of Berath - from scavenger hunt dlc

Cloak of the Obsidian Order - nit sure????

Cowl of the Piercing Gaze - oathbinder sanctum drop from the inquisitor

Defiant Apparel - preorder item

Deltro's Cage - berdatto quest

Devil of Caroc Breastplate - nekataka armor merchent if npc died in first game

Effort - bekarna's folly

Endre's Flog of Obedience - bounty item

Fenan's Finery - ?????

Fleshmender - bounty item

Gaun's Pledge -  preorder item

Gipon Prudensco - pirate faction drop if you anger pirates enough

Great Sword - ?????

Humility - bounty

Ibis - bounty quest

Iron-Clasped Grimoire -  cancehout drop

Kana's Hat - ???? I assume if Kana died in first game this is somewhere

Lance of the Midwood Stag - bounty

Nomad's Brigandine - bounty

Onepahua's Strength - ????

Orishia - bounty

Precognition - bounty

Ring of the Solitary Wanderer - bounty

Saint's War Armor - Eder

Salve of Dissolution - if you sided and fulfilled Rymrgand request in the first game you should get this but apparently not

Sharpshooter's Garb - Maia

Skullcrusher - - drop from catacombs under Temple of Barath

Soul Void - bounty

Street Sweeper - bugged drop from bounty

Tears of Saint Makawo - bounty

The Iroccian Calendar (Rare) ???

The Maker's Own Power - bounty

The Red Hand - ?????

Violet Redemption - endgame drop from VTC on Ukaizo

Wahaki Tua ???

Wicked Beast - I believe merchant in Sayuka or somewhere there but I know I got it normally in a playthrough

[Kohwalter]

Try these

 

Prob a better list

 

Acina's Tricorn: Vendor on Tikawara

Arkemyr's Grimoire: Drop from Arkemyr

Blackened Plate Helm: Drop from Quartermaster

Boltcatchers: Drop from a Bounty

Cauldron Shard: Outcast Respite

Defiant Apparel: From the DLC Explorer Pack

Fenan's Finery

Iron-Clasped Grimoire

Kana's Hat

Onepahua's Strength

Orishia: Bounty

The Iroccian Calendar (Rare)

The Maker's Own Power: Bounty

The Red Hand

Violet Redemption: Endgame by killing the admiral if I'm not mistaken

Wahaki Tua

 

Nope. The list is actually smaller.

Kana's Hat does nothing if my memory serves right

[peardox]

I'm basing this on in-game un-availables so drops are out

 

I just dropped the list to Value > 500 which provided the 14 results listed above

 

The easy gets are still good though so think - fine tuning comes later

 

Just to get this thing out think I'll go with that lot (yeah, Kana's in it)

 

Tomoz I'll do a deeper search fur un-referenced items

 

At least you'll be legally able to get "The Red Hand"

 

I'll give your list a go tomoz as well to see if I can stick them on her.

 

The mod will be in a constant 'beta' as people come up with wishlists

 

I'll add anything sensible to the store

 

One thing to note is that if you buy an item and I remove that item from the store you'll retain the item (I'll have to try this out)

[Khagmas]

Rats - just tried a Bounty item

 

Tears of Saint Makawo is lootable

 

The list is going to be shorter

Of all this I do not seem to find only Ragged Cloak, Onepahua's Strength, The Red Hand and Fenan's Finery.

 

Wahaki Tua, Wicked Best and Violet Redemption are rare items but can be found. (It's good to check this out for sure)

 

P.S: It's good that we are offered help by a person from the modding-community.

 

But how to deal with the original problem that is observed in the game?

Edited July 1, 2018 by Khagmas

[peardox]

I was running off a 1.1.0 UUID list

 

I realised while writing the thing I need to be more specific in finding orphans so I've just copied 30G of data to my server for processing 1.1.1

 

As I said, this mod will be constantly moving it's targets as things get added

 

I was informed that The Red Hand is actually available in 1.1.1 for example

 

Gonna go regex out UUIDs from 30G in a while

[Khagmas]

I was informed that The Red Hand is actually available in 1.1.1 for example

In the patch notes nothing is said about this.

 

Its be only on Beta-Patch 1.2.0: Arquebus "The Red Hand" is now obtainable in Ermezzo's storeroom.

 

P.S: Also on Beta removed game data related to cut ability "Gift of Hope".

 

Edited June 28, 2018 by Khagmas

[peardox]

I've just processed 1.1.1 to extract all the UUIDs (there's a post about it here note a very, very small SPOILER ALERT No actual spoilers, it's all very techie crap for the Mod community)

 

The result of that work means I can now identify unavailable items 100%

 

The Red Hand is encountered 6 times (most will be character interactions) but not within the level files etc making it a unique (possibly) obtainable in 1.1.1 - in fact we know it is obtainable, I add the possibly as there are a load of unused conversations.

 

The conversations are the main problem - I can't tell yet whether you hit a particular result or not in a broken conversation chain - yep, there are orphans in dialogue as well; they were far easier to spot than today's stuff

[Kaylon]

I picked the Iroccian claendar from somebody's pocket...(I remember it because it wasn't one of the common books you find).

Edited June 28, 2018 by Kaylon