Tick Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Hey all, I wanna go over this with a fine tooth comb but honestly I just cant with the time I got. Any big hitters you guys want me to ask the devs if its in game or on a loot list? I'm really curious what the story is with gift of hope. There were also a couple other not available abilities I was curious about but I've forgotten the names. It doesn't super matter to me if the answer was, "it got cut," I'm more interested in the story behind why it was thought up and then cut or if it not showing up is just a bug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdiaz Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Hey all, I wanna go over this with a fine tooth comb but honestly I just cant with the time I got. Any big hitters you guys want me to ask the devs if its in game or on a loot list? I'm really curious what the story is with gift of hope. There were also a couple other not available abilities I was curious about but I've forgotten the names. It doesn't super matter to me if the answer was, "it got cut," I'm more interested in the story behind why it was thought up and then cut or if it not showing up is just a bug. Yeah I checked on this yesterday to see it got cut, but lemme probe a bit more as to why it did, I'd also like to know whats the story there 5 I like big bugs and I cannot lie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Hey all, I wanna go over this with a fine tooth comb but honestly I just cant with the time I got. Any big hitters you guys want me to ask the devs if its in game or on a loot list? I'm really curious what the story is with gift of hope. There were also a couple other not available abilities I was curious about but I've forgotten the names. It doesn't super matter to me if the answer was, "it got cut," I'm more interested in the story behind why it was thought up and then cut or if it not showing up is just a bug. Yeah I checked on this yesterday to see it got cut, but lemme probe a bit more as to why it did, I'd also like to know whats the story there Oh cool! Good to know! Thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdiaz Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Here's what I got back from the devs: "Josh wanted to reward players with a passive talent if the didnt sacrifice anyone to the blood pool. For one reason or another, later on that passive was never awarded to the player in dialogue, and was cut as a resolution to a bug on Josh." Thats all the info they'd impart with me 5 I like big bugs and I cannot lie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 That would have solved the imbalance there was in first game where evil deeds where rewarded while good were not. If this was the idea behind this cut perk, i may consider adding it with console at some point, since i never sacrificed anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flazeo25 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 So is Wodica soul power ability your meant to get from giving her souls in poe1 cut or obtainable? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Here's what I got back from the devs: "Josh wanted to reward players with a passive talent if the didnt sacrifice anyone to the blood pool. For one reason or another, later on that passive was never awarded to the player in dialogue, and was cut as a resolution to a bug on Josh." Thats all the info they'd impart with me Oh interesting! Good to know. Thank you for sharing! :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peardox Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) I can tell you that The Red Hand is not available by any means I can discover. I've got a Waenglith test that gives me anything I want (manually editing for Mods) Yep, I'm a Modder - it's marked as SPOLIERS (not seen one in ages) - come visit us HERE (it's technical and boring to all but a few) - the thing is that if you make a sensible post there someone will eventually help you out. So, I'm still identifying the orphaned items (the ones you can't get) I've built up a huge amount of over this stuff, At the time of writing I only know what's NOT in-game (not if it's any good or now) I take it people are after Uniques? If the group can gimme a top 10/20 I'll write a Mod so you can buy them all. Please note that Modding is encouraged by Obsidian (I was asked recently if using a Mod would kill someones Achievements - the answer is no) Indeed, the Mod community are in contact with the Devs so we can further expand POE2. Edited June 27, 2018 by peardox 2 OK Fair warning has been applied I'm gonna move the domain to https://perspak.com early Feb but will keep all content There are reasons behind this move which basically boil down to unifying my release schedule My friends are welcome to play (I'll set you up your own areas if you desire them) Please note that this process is messy so may take a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgFIREBALLS Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Not all heroes wear capes! Or shirts that cover their bellies. Would you also be able to mod in some missing talents, as rewards for certain decisions as the Founding Fathers Obsidian intended? 1 My Deadfire mods Out With The Good: The mod for tidying up your Deadfire combat tooltip. Waukeen's Berth: Make all your basic purchases at Queen's Berth. Carrying Voice: Wider chanter invocations. Nemnok's Congregation: Lets all priests express their true faith. Deadfire skill check catalogue right here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peardox Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 We've been discussing that in Mods recently but I'll cross-post this for you... Can other ppl simply post directly to https://forums.obsidian.net/forum/131-pillars-of-eternity-ii-deadfire-modding-spoiler-warning/ For anything not specifically on-topic We're a nice bunch and willing to help 1 OK Fair warning has been applied I'm gonna move the domain to https://perspak.com early Feb but will keep all content There are reasons behind this move which basically boil down to unifying my release schedule My friends are welcome to play (I'll set you up your own areas if you desire them) Please note that this process is messy so may take a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khagmas Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) So is Wodica soul power ability your meant to get from giving her souls in poe1 cut or obtainable? It is unavailable content. I tried to update the information in the posts to make it correspond to reality. If we be aware anything, we will immediately add this. Edited June 27, 2018 by Khagmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khagmas Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) Here's what I got back from the devs: "Josh wanted to reward players with a passive talent if the didnt sacrifice anyone to the blood pool. For one reason or another, later on that passive was never awarded to the player in dialogue, and was cut as a resolution to a bug on Josh." Thats all the info they'd impart with me Many thanks for this information about 'Gift of Hope' talent, Cdiaz. After this developers response, I'm more inclined to think that they will not return this talent. Can I ask about the fate of the remaining skills (and etc.) that were found? Can we expect that some of them will still be added to DLCs? Talents (see posts #2 and #3): Gift of Hope (for this talent now we have answer - Post#79) Adaptive Persistent Soul Power Bound Shade Vielo Vidorio Savage Cunning Slave's Silence Oppressor's Rage Social Order Compassion Inner Glow and about The Red Hand - Arquebus and Iztala (Unavailable crew member - Post#35)? P.S: All this works well, but this can be obtained only through the console. Edited June 29, 2018 by Khagmas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peardox Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I'm in the middle of MOD testing Before you ask, yes, you get The Red Hand plus 43 others (this number will drop a bit on release) Below is a list of items that appear to be un-referenced in the game This list is, I believe, inclusive of every Unique item unavailable in-game (minus a few such as character Uniques) The full list is far more extensive - there are 1,035 in total I have to expand my search to guarantee this list is correct Can avid players check this list to see if I've included anything stupid? I'm aware of Great Sword - tuning this takes time so a few (e.g. Great Sword) won't be in the final I'm placing the MOD on Eofania who can be found in Sātahuzi outside Port Maje I'll give everyone a shout on release... Aamiina's LegacyAcina's TricornArkemyr's GrimoireBlackened Plate ArmorBlackened Plate HelmBoltcatchersCauldron ShardChameleon's TouchCloak of BerathCloak of the Obsidian OrderCowl of the Piercing GazeDefiant ApparelDeltro's CageDevil of Caroc BreastplateEffortEndre's Flog of ObedienceFenan's FineryFleshmenderGaun's PledgeGipon PrudenscoGreat SwordHumilityIbisIron-Clasped GrimoireKana's HatLance of the Midwood StagNomad's BrigandineOnepahua's StrengthOrishiaPrecognitionRing of the Solitary WandererSaint's War ArmorSalve of DissolutionSharpshooter's GarbSkullcrusherSoul VoidStreet SweeperTears of Saint MakawoThe Iroccian Calendar (Rare)The Maker's Own PowerThe Red HandViolet RedemptionWahaki TuaWicked Beast OK Fair warning has been applied I'm gonna move the domain to https://perspak.com early Feb but will keep all content There are reasons behind this move which basically boil down to unifying my release schedule My friends are welcome to play (I'll set you up your own areas if you desire them) Please note that this process is messy so may take a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peardox Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Rats - just tried a Bounty item Tears of Saint Makawo is lootable The list is going to be shorter OK Fair warning has been applied I'm gonna move the domain to https://perspak.com early Feb but will keep all content There are reasons behind this move which basically boil down to unifying my release schedule My friends are welcome to play (I'll set you up your own areas if you desire them) Please note that this process is messy so may take a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohwalter Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I'm in the middle of MOD testing Before you ask, yes, you get The Red Hand plus 43 others (this number will drop a bit on release) Below is a list of items that appear to be un-referenced in the game This list is, I believe, inclusive of every Unique item unavailable in-game (minus a few such as character Uniques) The full list is far more extensive - there are 1,035 in total I have to expand my search to guarantee this list is correct Can avid players check this list to see if I've included anything stupid? I'm aware of Great Sword - tuning this takes time so a few (e.g. Great Sword) won't be in the final I'm placing the MOD on Eofania who can be found in Sātahuzi outside Port Maje I'll give everyone a shout on release... Aamiina's Legacy Acina's Tricorn Arkemyr's Grimoire Blackened Plate Armor Blackened Plate Helm Boltcatchers Cauldron Shard Chameleon's Touch Cloak of Berath Cloak of the Obsidian Order Cowl of the Piercing Gaze Defiant Apparel Deltro's Cage Devil of Caroc Breastplate Effort Endre's Flog of Obedience Fenan's Finery Fleshmender Gaun's Pledge Gipon Prudensco Great Sword Humility Ibis Iron-Clasped Grimoire Kana's Hat Lance of the Midwood Stag Nomad's Brigandine Onepahua's Strength Orishia Precognition Ring of the Solitary Wanderer Saint's War Armor Salve of Dissolution Sharpshooter's Garb Skullcrusher Soul Void Street Sweeper Tears of Saint Makawo The Iroccian Calendar (Rare) The Maker's Own Power The Red Hand Violet Redemption Wahaki Tua Wicked Beast Erm... Most of the itens you said in that list are actualy in the game... Effort you get from the Archmage quest, Acina's Tricorn you buy from a merchant, Gaun's Pledge you get in the beginning of the game, same with Berath's Cloak and Obsidian's. Defiant Apparel is from the DLC... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohwalter Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Maybe you could read the Wiki page... most of those are already there with their locations/bounties 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peardox Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Try these Prob a better list Acina's TricornArkemyr's GrimoireBlackened Plate HelmBoltcatchersCauldron ShardDefiant ApparelFenan's FineryIron-Clasped GrimoireKana's HatOnepahua's StrengthOrishiaThe Iroccian Calendar (Rare)The Maker's Own PowerThe Red HandViolet RedemptionWahaki Tua OK Fair warning has been applied I'm gonna move the domain to https://perspak.com early Feb but will keep all content There are reasons behind this move which basically boil down to unifying my release schedule My friends are welcome to play (I'll set you up your own areas if you desire them) Please note that this process is messy so may take a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1TTFFSSE Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I'm in the middle of MOD testing Before you ask, yes, you get The Red Hand plus 43 others (this number will drop a bit on release) Below is a list of items that appear to be un-referenced in the game This list is, I believe, inclusive of every Unique item unavailable in-game (minus a few such as character Uniques) The full list is far more extensive - there are 1,035 in total I have to expand my search to guarantee this list is correct Can avid players check this list to see if I've included anything stupid? I'm aware of Great Sword - tuning this takes time so a few (e.g. Great Sword) won't be in the final I'm placing the MOD on Eofania who can be found in Sātahuzi outside Port Maje I'll give everyone a shout on release... Aamiina's Legacy - bounty drop Acina's Tricorn Arkemyr's Grimoire Blackened Plate Armor Blackened Plate Helm Boltcatchers Cauldron Shard Chameleon's Touch Cloak of Berath Cloak of the Obsidian Order Cowl of the Piercing Gaze Defiant Apparel Deltro's Cage Devil of Caroc Breastplate Effort Endre's Flog of Obedience Fenan's Finery Fleshmender Gaun's Pledge Gipon Prudensco Great Sword Humility Ibis Iron-Clasped Grimoire Kana's Hat Lance of the Midwood Stag Nomad's Brigandine Onepahua's Strength Orishia Precognition Ring of the Solitary Wanderer Saint's War Armor Salve of Dissolution Sharpshooter's Garb Skullcrusher Soul Void Street Sweeper Tears of Saint Makawo The Iroccian Calendar (Rare) The Maker's Own Power The Red Hand Violet Redemption Wahaki Tua Wicked Beast Aamiina's Legacy - drops from a bounty quest Acina's Tricorn - shop merchant in Tikawara Arkemyr's Grimoire - drops from Arkemyr Blackened Plate Armor - in Splinterred Reef sub boss fight drop Blackened Plate Helm - in Splinterred Reef sub boss fight drop Boltcatchers - drops from a bounty quest Cauldron Shard - in outcast's respite Chameleon's Touch - drops from a bounty quest Cloak of Berath - from scavenger hunt dlc Cloak of the Obsidian Order - nit sure???? Cowl of the Piercing Gaze - oathbinder sanctum drop from the inquisitor Defiant Apparel - preorder item Deltro's Cage - berdatto quest Devil of Caroc Breastplate - nekataka armor merchent if npc died in first game Effort - bekarna's folly Endre's Flog of Obedience - bounty item Fenan's Finery - ????? Fleshmender - bounty item Gaun's Pledge - preorder item Gipon Prudensco - pirate faction drop if you anger pirates enough Great Sword - ????? Humility - bounty Ibis - bounty quest Iron-Clasped Grimoire - cancehout drop Kana's Hat - ???? I assume if Kana died in first game this is somewhere Lance of the Midwood Stag - bounty Nomad's Brigandine - bounty Onepahua's Strength - ???? Orishia - bounty Precognition - bounty Ring of the Solitary Wanderer - bounty Saint's War Armor - Eder Salve of Dissolution - if you sided and fulfilled Rymrgand request in the first game you should get this but apparently not Sharpshooter's Garb - Maia Skullcrusher - - drop from catacombs under Temple of Barath Soul Void - bounty Street Sweeper - bugged drop from bounty Tears of Saint Makawo - bounty The Iroccian Calendar (Rare) ??? The Maker's Own Power - bounty The Red Hand - ????? Violet Redemption - endgame drop from VTC on Ukaizo Wahaki Tua ??? Wicked Beast - I believe merchant in Sayuka or somewhere there but I know I got it normally in a playthrough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohwalter Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Try these Prob a better list Acina's Tricorn: Vendor on Tikawara Arkemyr's Grimoire: Drop from Arkemyr Blackened Plate Helm: Drop from Quartermaster Boltcatchers: Drop from a Bounty Cauldron Shard: Outcast Respite Defiant Apparel: From the DLC Explorer Pack Fenan's Finery Iron-Clasped Grimoire Kana's Hat Onepahua's Strength Orishia: Bounty The Iroccian Calendar (Rare) The Maker's Own Power: Bounty The Red Hand Violet Redemption: Endgame by killing the admiral if I'm not mistaken Wahaki Tua Nope. The list is actually smaller. Kana's Hat does nothing if my memory serves right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peardox Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I'm basing this on in-game un-availables so drops are out I just dropped the list to Value > 500 which provided the 14 results listed above The easy gets are still good though so think - fine tuning comes later Just to get this thing out think I'll go with that lot (yeah, Kana's in it) Tomoz I'll do a deeper search fur un-referenced items At least you'll be legally able to get "The Red Hand" I'll give your list a go tomoz as well to see if I can stick them on her. The mod will be in a constant 'beta' as people come up with wishlists I'll add anything sensible to the store One thing to note is that if you buy an item and I remove that item from the store you'll retain the item (I'll have to try this out) OK Fair warning has been applied I'm gonna move the domain to https://perspak.com early Feb but will keep all content There are reasons behind this move which basically boil down to unifying my release schedule My friends are welcome to play (I'll set you up your own areas if you desire them) Please note that this process is messy so may take a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khagmas Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) Rats - just tried a Bounty item Tears of Saint Makawo is lootable The list is going to be shorter Of all this I do not seem to find only Ragged Cloak, Onepahua's Strength, The Red Hand and Fenan's Finery. Wahaki Tua, Wicked Best and Violet Redemption are rare items but can be found. (It's good to check this out for sure) P.S: It's good that we are offered help by a person from the modding-community. But how to deal with the original problem that is observed in the game? Edited July 1, 2018 by Khagmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peardox Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I was running off a 1.1.0 UUID list I realised while writing the thing I need to be more specific in finding orphans so I've just copied 30G of data to my server for processing 1.1.1 As I said, this mod will be constantly moving it's targets as things get added I was informed that The Red Hand is actually available in 1.1.1 for example Gonna go regex out UUIDs from 30G in a while OK Fair warning has been applied I'm gonna move the domain to https://perspak.com early Feb but will keep all content There are reasons behind this move which basically boil down to unifying my release schedule My friends are welcome to play (I'll set you up your own areas if you desire them) Please note that this process is messy so may take a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khagmas Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) I was informed that The Red Hand is actually available in 1.1.1 for example In the patch notes nothing is said about this. Its be only on Beta-Patch 1.2.0: Arquebus "The Red Hand" is now obtainable in Ermezzo's storeroom. P.S: Also on Beta removed game data related to cut ability "Gift of Hope". Edited June 28, 2018 by Khagmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peardox Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I've just processed 1.1.1 to extract all the UUIDs (there's a post about it here note a very, very small SPOILER ALERT No actual spoilers, it's all very techie crap for the Mod community) The result of that work means I can now identify unavailable items 100% The Red Hand is encountered 6 times (most will be character interactions) but not within the level files etc making it a unique (possibly) obtainable in 1.1.1 - in fact we know it is obtainable, I add the possibly as there are a load of unused conversations. The conversations are the main problem - I can't tell yet whether you hit a particular result or not in a broken conversation chain - yep, there are orphans in dialogue as well; they were far easier to spot than today's stuff 1 OK Fair warning has been applied I'm gonna move the domain to https://perspak.com early Feb but will keep all content There are reasons behind this move which basically boil down to unifying my release schedule My friends are welcome to play (I'll set you up your own areas if you desire them) Please note that this process is messy so may take a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaylon Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) I picked the Iroccian claendar from somebody's pocket...(I remember it because it wasn't one of the common books you find). Edited June 28, 2018 by Kaylon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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