Dorftek Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Hello, i suddenly found an urge to play a dual pistol build with the pirate hat! I want the quickest reload/recovery speed as possible so i was wondering if Chanters reload phraise buff stack with the rangers reload speed passive? Anyone know? In case nobody knows, since i cannot really check the recovery/reload speed in the combat logs how can i test this properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climhazzard Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Go into your inventory and check the details on the equipped weapon. The reload speed should be highlighted in green. If you mouse over that it will tell you all the effects that are modifying it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorftek Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Go into your inventory and check the details on the equipped weapon. The reload speed should be highlighted in green. If you mouse over that it will tell you all the effects that are modifying it. Ahh /Facepalm. Thanks! =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyNice Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Keep in mind that pistol/blunderbuss recovery is currently bugged and attack frequency (animation + reload) can't exceed 3.6/s~ even if the tooltip shows that it's faster. Hoping to see a fix soon but in the mean time I suggest going 1hand for the extra accuracy/crit, you can still benefit from Gunner+Chat since you don't have +45% action speed from dual wielding + the talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edolamberto Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Keep in mind that pistol/blunderbuss recovery is currently bugged and attack frequency (animation + reload) can't exceed 3.6/s~ even if the tooltip shows that it's faster. Hoping to see a fix soon but in the mean time I suggest going 1hand for the extra accuracy/crit, you can still benefit from Gunner+Chat since you don't have +45% action speed from dual wielding + the talent. patch 1.02 did not fix that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaylon Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Gunner doesn't stack with the Chanter's chant which is a bug IMO. If you want the best ranged attacker try rogue+chanter instead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorftek Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 What a shame. Rogue has such boring abilities and the decent ones are so expensive to use. I do know for certain that I want to be a skald tho, so dirty fighting would be nice. Really saddening that the pistol attack frequency is bugged. Maybe I'll wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyNice Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 What a shame. Rogue has such boring abilities and the decent ones are so expensive to use. I do know for certain that I want to be a skald tho, so dirty fighting would be nice. Really saddening that the pistol attack frequency is bugged. Maybe I'll wait Skald also works off of melee crits, so that wouldn't work with pistols regardless. Troubador is excellent however. And yeah, that bug is really annoying and has foiled several build plans I've had. Especially when you consider the pirate theme of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorftek Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Any other class cept paladin and rogue that would have cool full attacks to use with pistols? I really want two pistols bugged or not ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy1984 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Gunner doesn't stack with the Chanter's chant which is a bug IMO. If you want the best ranged attacker try rogue+chanter instead... Are you sure? I tested this 2 weeks ago in the beta and there it did stack: https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/97313-dual-weilding-pistols/page-2?do=findComment&comment=2007284 If it does not stack its a new bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaylon Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Gunner doesn't stack with the Chanter's chant which is a bug IMO. If you want the best ranged attacker try rogue+chanter instead...Are you sure? I tested this 2 weeks ago in the beta and there it did stack: https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/97313-dual-weilding-pistols/page-2?do=findComment&comment=2007284 If it does not stack its a new bug. Well, I made a chanter/ranger just to see how much I can reduce the reload speed and Gunner wasn't displayed in the weapon's tooltip... That's all I can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy1984 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Gunner doesn't stack with the Chanter's chant which is a bug IMO. If you want the best ranged attacker try rogue+chanter instead... Are you sure? I tested this 2 weeks ago in the beta and there it did stack: https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/97313-dual-weilding-pistols/page-2?do=findComment&comment=2007284If it does not stack its a new bug. Well, I made a chanter/ranger just to see how much I can reduce the reload speed and Gunner wasn't displayed in the weapon's tooltip... That's all I can say.You have to be in a fight to benfit from the chant. So out of combat the reduction is not visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaylon Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Gunner doesn't stack with the Chanter's chant which is a bug IMO. If you want the best ranged attacker try rogue+chanter instead...Are you sure? I tested this 2 weeks ago in the beta and there it did stack: https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/97313-dual-weilding-pistols/page-2?do=findComment&comment=2007284If it does not stack its a new bug. Well, I made a chanter/ranger just to see how much I can reduce the reload speed and Gunner wasn't displayed in the weapon's tooltip... That's all I can say.You have to be in a fight to benfit from the chant. So out of combat the reduction is not visible. Of course I was in fight. I said Gunner was not visible, not the chant bonus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy1984 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Gunner doesn't stack with the Chanter's chant which is a bug IMO. If you want the best ranged attacker try rogue+chanter instead...Are you sure? I tested this 2 weeks ago in the beta and there it did stack: https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/97313-dual-weilding-pistols/page-2?do=findComment&comment=2007284If it does not stack its a new bug. Well, I made a chanter/ranger just to see how much I can reduce the reload speed and Gunner wasn't displayed in the weapon's tooltip... That's all I can say.You have to be in a fight to benfit from the chant. So out of combat the reduction is not visible. Of course I was in fight. I said Gunner was not visible, not the chant bonus... I checked this. Both bonuses - "Gunner" and "Sure-Handed Ila" - stack. Because there are too many bonuses (with long names), not all of them can be shown in the tootltip ... like in my test for the beta. But you can check the reload time for your weapon - there you see that the time goes down with every applied effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorftek Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Does dex and action speed buffs affect reload speed as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zantesuken Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Does dex and action speed buffs affect reload speed as well? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxQuest Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) Gunner doesn't stack with the Chanter's chant which is a bug IMO. If you want the best ranged attacker try rogue+chanter instead...I have also tested this. Gunner does stack with both components from Sure-Handed Ila chant: They also do stack with Gunnery (from Maia's armor) and Shootist (from Acina's Tricorn hat). P.S. What doesn't stack is: Sure-Handed Ila (reload component) with Rushed Reload (from Pistols modal), since both are active effects and affect same ReloadTimeMultiplier. Edited May 22, 2018 by MaxQuest 1 PoE1 useful stuff: attack speed calculator, unofficial patch mod, attack speed mechanics, dot mechanics, modals exclusivity rules PoE2 useful stuff: community patch, attack speed mechanics, enemy AR and defenses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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