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A link from a television documentary... then also in Dutch (since it was from Belgian)... Even if there was a link to it, you wouldn't understand the things besides "Mother****er" that the soldiers said... Sure, cops could do that. But would they do that with random citizens? Would they start molesting if the person wouldn't understand them (doesn't speak/understand English)? And later pushing out the camera crew because they wanted to do some stuff that wouldn't look all that good taped and such? Who talks about Abu Ghraib alone? CIA camps, Guatamala Bay, several other Iraqi prisons, interrogations in the "suspects" own houses... Whoops. Saw the S as a capital letter when reading it for the first time :"> I am on the insurgent's side as you are on Bush side... Yes. I am aware they don't do that. But UNLIKE the VS they don't claim to do so. But look who does claim such a statement... and fails miserably? No, I don't think anarchy would be a good thing, but exchanging one ruthless dictatorship by another covered in a very faint democratic jacket doesn't help anybody... And as the US elections (fraude, entire would against Bush, 51% of the Americans for, even if it could (and did) cause wars on other parts of the world, problems actually counting the votes, etc.) have shown, maybe Democracy isn't Da Bomb for the entire world... Working for American companies, not known they were Europeans, foolish attempts to free themselves resulting in death etc. There can be many reasons, but they mainly go for the Americans... Don't confuse torture and execution. And if the Americans execute they seem to do it more with their rifle, but feel free to ignore it is both execution. Also, on alot of occassions torture can be FAR worse than any execution. You rather die fast and painless or spend the last 3 months of your life in miserable pain? So it is a rather odd comparisson to make when talking about treatment of people... Why don't you post some of them then? If you say I can't even give properly documented evidence, why should you get away without properly documented evidence? Kind of hypocrite, not? Ha, atleast I discuss instead of throwing out odd comparisons or flaming how stupid I am for not not giving stuff that you cannot even provide yourself for your own arguments....

So, according to you, there are 2 groups in Iraq The Allied (US, British etc.) The Terrorists (everybody in Iraq that doesn't belong to the Allied, in short Iraq population) SUUUURE...

And that would make it OK to enter a random house and interrogate the people like that? Sorry, but that doesn't get in with me. After you killed the entire American population "because they could potentially be terroristists" you can try fishing for killings in other countries... No wonder the CIA is so screwed up about kidnapping everybody everywhere without proof and torture them in Eastern Europe...

Sorry, newspaper. If I find the article online I will post a link... Did I tell they just interrogated a civilian? Sure, if the civilian got the soldiers hostage (how would he do that?) he would go and torture them... Damn these citizens, far worse than any terrorist... "

If you wan't to continue discussing this, it should be taken to WoT...

Unpronouncable in your language maybe, but who says many things like Central Intelligence Agency isn't a Unpronouncable Hostage Agency for them? Not everybody on the world speaks English, and thus have different names... A clear sign of evil ofcourse, just like the French! Once there was a report of how the Americans acted in Iraq. They showed an American Force go into the house of some random Iraqi. Let's see how it went: "Goddamn mother****er. Tell us where your ****ing terroristic ****ers are" [Arabic for I don't understand] "Answer my ****ing question, ****ing mother****er" [Arabic for I don't understand] *Americans rough him up a little and intimidate with their guns* "Tell us where your ****ing terroristic buddies are, bitch!" Yeah for the American way of finding terrorists and interrogation. Ofcourse without camera's there would have been torture involved, the US' little favorite activity... And the US Vs. Them wasn't made by you when talking about Iraq. Even then it is quite "easy" to forget there are several other nationalities of armies in Iraq, like your big buddies the British. Why did you forget them? Because they don't do anything (false) or you wan't to boost your own morale about the US all by themselves holding Iraq from turning an even bigger mess? And the terrorist DO wan't only the Yankees. Recently there was an hostage in the Gaza by these terrorists, and when they found out that the teachers of that American school were Europeans and not Yankees, they gave them a good treatment and released them as soon as they could...

So, according to you THEM (see Commissars post to see this is the entire World excluding the US) may freely annihilate 51% of the American population (since they support Bush and got him his seat)? Yah! Let's nuke Washington, NY, LA etc. (because clearly a 51% support means for 100% annihilation)!!! "

*Thread pruned* This one stays here untill a more permanent sollution is there to collect K3 data... Afterall remind yourself the rise of several new Kotor3 threads is due to the vigilance to lock the Kotor3 suggestions thread in C&C... So, less discussion of why this thread is evil/helpfull and more constructive posting. It is not THAT hard avoiding threads with "Kotor3" in the title if you don't wan't to participate... And posting a post in every one how it should "end" really helps no one, and certainly also doesn't stop it...

I think he meant it the BG way; which is indeed only for selection, battle cries, critical hit pep talk etc. and not every answer a spoken line...

*cough* Visas *cough*

For the fullscreen, open SWKotor2.ini in the map where you installed Kotor2. Find the Fullscreen=0 (under [Graphics options], there are 2, but the other doesn't work) and change it to Fullscreen=1

That is because Shadow is VIP because he signed an ultra-secret document where he has written to do all to get Fallout 3 in OE hands and to pass ultra-secret Oblivion info here too for implentation (of the good stuff) in PNJ "

The question ring with the Dev has been moved to a seperate topic in the PNJ-forum... Is there something to talk about (PNJ) there too...

Indeed, that one doesn't move. And when another one tries to pass them they eventually block the entire road. Be sure to be past the droids when that happens (as then Guides can help you travel and avoid this block)

No majesty ? In that case; Majesty

Seems to be done We will miss ya. Lolz on your VIP status though...

Indeed. The original post already had that added before this reply. The UN didn't make Israel however. England made Palestina into Israel, the UN just had to handle that it actually became that... it was not forced up by the UN as you stated in the post where I replied to... Just to put in context when you drag out the old VietNam thing, you may want to keep in mind how the USA got into VietNam in the first place. You see, the USA wanted France to join NATO. France was at that time embroiled in a funny little place called VietNam. Now France, being brighter than the USA at the time, made a deal... they would join NATO if we gave them a hand in VietNam. We stupidly agreed. Within a couple of years, France left VietNam and it became the graveyard for 58,160 Americans. While you are tossing historical blame around, don't forget to include all the participants! Somebody didn't read the bolded part, or missed to see the connection with France in these words

Yeah, and have we used nukes yet? No. Have we leveled any of the countries you mentioned? No. Are we currently in two of those countries spending time, money, and LIVES to try to rebuild them? YES. Of course, you're so laughably anti-U.S. biased you won't admit that even when facts are shoved in your face. You'll look for anything to support to justify your anti-U.S. views, even if it means making stuff up, as you did above. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry? Did you actually read my post, or seen which line I quoted and said that after?

You talk to the man who want's to nuke Osama out of his cave, and want's to level Iraq/Afghanistan/Iran/North-Korea etc.

First about Di's response in the locked thread about how we Europeans are whiny about attacks on our nation. Well, in my case I was just giving Commissar the reason why we are not that fanatical of war. The US never being invaded by foreign countries has no idea what it exactly means to be occupied, but many European countries do understand that. And usually I only defend Europe when somebody twists history again, like claiming Afrika and Amerika got the same chances during the Imperialistic time, or how the US saved us, but only started after they got attacked themselves. And Europeans can post (and will) post enough bad stuff about themselves too, or did you never hear a European say how awfull our Second Worldwar was, how the Imperialistic time was occupation of the locals and how we screwed up in Kosovo and such? UN had nothing to do with the Creation of Israel (after all, the UN was created after WO II and Israel just before/during). After WO I England got that country, but they were having troubles by the Arabic who wanted to have the English out of there. When WO II started/was underway alot of European countries wanted to get rid of the Jews (not the same way as Germany though). So the English made their area there which they couldn't hold anymore suitable for the Jews to come in. Due to economical malaise due to WO II England would have never been able to help Israel there and keep their position in the ME... EDIT: Actually, it was made in 1948, which would be after the WO II. But it was still made without the UN I would guess you guys would really love it. The war in Europe DOUBLED the income of your country, and also gave the communists in Russia (Enemy) alot of trouble. Hell, you guys probably didn't care alot about Hitler untill he sided with Japan after Pearl Harbor and declared war on the US. Hadn't he done that, the US probably didn't intervine, or alot later in the war... But you guys did. Didn't care about local stuff if the great risk known as "communism" was kept at bay. Didn't matter how many enemies it would make (Al-Quada in Afghanistan) or how many soldiers would die (Vietnam), all that was of importance was to keep communism out and up the Kapitalism, which, in Vietnams case, wasn't even kapitalism (it was imperialism)

That is just the way it is in Kotor2... Pretty funny how in Kotor1 it was boring slow and in kotor2 absurd fast... couldn't they just see that the middle of these 2 would be perfectly fine?

We still carry the wounds of WW II. We seem to understand that war isn't allitle bit of fun to make profit, but deadly serious

??? Due to WAR the whole European Union lay in ruins, without a chance of fixing itself. The only reason that we recovered is because big US who stayed out of the war (and thus made big $$$ of us) handed us a part of the money they made by us killing each other... If we didn't got that cash, well, we would have all been USSR now...

There is a crashed ship nearby. Inside it is a console where you can power the droids, so you can turn them on and help you...

Then why didn't he just used the SF Fleet to annihilate them all?