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Really? I missed that. Could you elaborate? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you finished the planet and you are talking about the magnetic door, then one of your party members went through that section in order to get a code of some sort. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, no, that's not what we're talking about. What we're talking about is a section of the map at the docks, to which two doors provide access (one next door to the flophouse, and one next door to vogga's place). However, neither door is actually selectable, and as such I have seen no way in... I'll try and get a screenshot of the map...

Did anyone here read Nineteen Eighty-Four? There was a scene where the protagonist, Winston, is talking about joining the rebel group dedicated to overthrowing the totalitarian government of Oceania. When the representative of the group, O'Brien, tests Winston's dedication to the ideals of the rebels, Winston claims that he would throw acid in a child's face if it would further the goals of the rebels. Later, there is a scene where Winston is captured and O'Brien, who is revealed to be a spy for the government, asks Winston if he feels himself superior to those in government who lie and commit cruelties. When he answers that he does, a recording is played of him promising to O'Brien "to lie, to steal, to forge, to murder...to disseminate venereal diseases, to throw vitriol in a child's face." While O'Brien is the epitome of evil in the book, he makes a fair point. When you do to those you claim to protect the same things you claim you wish to protect them from, how are you any different from the people you claim are your enemies? This is the same situation. Tearing away someone's ability to feel the force is at best like simultaneously blinding and deafening them, at worst like raping them. If one is willing to do that, then one is certainly not "good" by force-user Star Wars standards, and is the sort of person who would go down in Jedi textbooks as the best example of the saying "the path to hell is paved with good intentions".

Really? I missed that. Could you elaborate?

I'd see him as more of an embodiment of the force that you threw out of yourself during the deaths at Malachor V. The result is that you have a vacuum where your connection to the force used to be, causing you to leech off the force of force sensitives, while your connection to the force, now embodied in Darth Nihilus, destroys people to get their force to feed on. Consider it like a wood burning stove. You are the stove, and your connection to the force is the fire. When you cut yourself off from the force, you expel the fire. But rather than go out, the fire continues to burn outside of you. So while you have no fire, you gain your warmth from the fires of others. What was your fire, however, burns stronger and stronger, creating a firestorm that consumes all the fuel around it. It destroys everything and everyone completely, and so whether you are ultimately good or evil, Nihilus is evil because he destroys, not because he is your reflection.

Actually make it FOUR Masters..one dead on Korriban and Atris as well Dark Side ...Kreia only delivers the final push to let her embrace fully the Dark Side Lucky you get to save at least one EDIT:Sweet irony..Saving the prosecutioner...getting taught by the padawan...being saved by one you are not even calling Jedi ... being taught what you had to follow ... shown mercy by the one you hated so much <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, when I say three, I don't count Vash because she's dead, and I don't count Atris because that's so obvious, whereas with the others it requires a little thought to come to the conclusion that they have fallen to the dark side, rather than fallen to the ground and banged their head causing them to just be stupid. It is the three on Dantooine to which I am referring.

Nope, it was Cadderly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Cadderly was in BG1? Darn. I never did get BG1, but I loved the Cleric Quintet.. I only ever seem to recognise a few voice actors. The guy guarding the gate in the village of outcasts in KotOR 1 was Pavel in NWN, and that Dentist in Fairly Odd Parents was Iago the Parrot in Aladdin, but that's about all I know, because the voices aren't often quite so identical as with both of them,

I also share the opinion that all three masters have fallen to the dark side, and their actions are not those of a Jedi. According to one of the dialogue options with handmaiden, losing the force is like having all of your other senses stripped away from you. To have that done deliberately by someone else is torture of the highest level, painless or not. In certain universes, "good" people might act in such a way and retain their "goodness" because of their motives. But in the Star Wars universe, "the ends justify the means" is not compatible with the light side of the force or the Jedi code.

Talk to Kreia about it, and she should tell you that it isn't in tune with you. If it isn't in your lightsaber, she'll attune it to you (which should fix any light/dark problems). As you go up in power, ask her regularly about it and she'll continue to make it more powerful.

If you went to customer support, you would actually be in contact with the company. Not so in the Tech Support forum. No one shows up to fix your problem.

Bronze would be my favourite is it was actually bronze rather than just orange as I'm told.

I really don't see why Revan or the Exile being at a very high level is such a barrier. Hordes of the Underdark started the character at level 15, and just extended the levelling system from 20 to 30. So all that has to be done is extend it once again. In fact, starting as a first level character would, in my opinion, be a really bad idea. The obvious progression of the story says that the next enemy is the True Sith, and according to what is said in KotOR 2, they are immensely powerful. If any plotline screams out for a high-level starting character, this is it.

You mean that there are no robes/armors which you can find in the same place each time you play through?! How disappointing! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe that the Ossus Keeper Robes are always found in the palace museum on Onderon.

Nope, that's the way it should be done. Think about real life. If I spend a year working on academic studies, I would be spending my time developing skills in those academic areas. If I then spent a year concentrating on athletic pusuits, I would have less time to work on those skills. Thus, in that year, I would be fitter, but I wouldn't have continued to develop my skills at the same rate. So, if we translate this into the game, Let's say in that first year I gained a level as a Tech Specialist and in the second I gained one as a Soldier. In the first year, since I am concentrating on my skills, I get 6 skill points because I am working on developing six skills. In the second year, because I am focusing on something else, I only have time to work on two skills. So, I gain another two points. Gaining eight points that level would make no sense, because even when I was devoting all my energy to skills, I only gained six, so I should not gain eight when I am not even concentrating on learning skills. If by stack, you meant that the total ranks should stack, then that is how it works. If I put my six points in six skills, and then my two points in two of those skills, then they would stack in that two of my skills would have two points in them. As to the feats and powers, well, they work in much the same way. A Sentinel has immunity to stun, and if they become a watchamn/assassin, they keep that ability. What's so unusual about that? After all, it's not like when they start doing something else they would forget how to do everything they already knew how to do. When one studies English, one does not forget how to do the Maths they already learned (provided they keep using it, of course), but they don't get any better at Maths.

I chose one of the Female heads for my DS character because she looked familiar to me...then I realised she reminded me of a monkey. I also use an override of the heads 2da to make what I call the "Sith Dermatology Detox Kit". All the DS heads are replaced by their lightside equivalents, because an evil jedi can be a vain Jedi, and a vain Jedi would take good care of her skin.

Given that I'm attracted to old fashioned things (I find women in victorian dresses more attractive than women in bikinis), and Disciple is the very model of the old fashioned gentleman--that is, you don't get any more knight-in-shining-armour than him--I would most certainly prefer Disciple over any other male character in the game if I was female or homosexual.

The Female Exile that has the blonde hair that's tied back with two of those rope-style ponytails (I know nothing about hair styles) running to the back of her head.

Excellent. More theoretical babble whose relation to the real world is... none. No, if I had a choice I wouldn't work for such a company. If I had a choice, I wouldn't buy their products. If I had a choice. But I may not have it, you know. If my children's living was at stake, I might be forced to take the job, and I'd rather not have that happen. And no, using a whip is not using force against them. This actually shows how little you know of anything. Back then when whips were used, workers weren't actually whipped since a whipping can severely diminish a worker's efficiency. Slavemasters still used them as 'encouragement', though. So please stop making stupid remarks. Tell me then, what does working a 22 hour shift do to a worker's efficiency? If the company wants efficiency, then the hours will have to allow time for the worker to recharge. And if the whip is not being used on people, and yet the workers are intimidated by it into working harder, then it is the workers that are stupid, not I. With talk of whips and 22 hours shifts, you are being no less thoretical than I am. Who buys them you say? Well, they can always export the products. Hadn't you actually thought of that? Wait, don't answer that. Damage to economy doesn't happen overnight, either. The company might not even exist anymore or it may have relocated elsewhere when the consequences of a massive layoff begin to be felt. If the economy of Finland was badly damaged, do you really think that the consequences of that will only be felt in Finland? And do you think that Companies make financial projections based on the premise that they won't be around in five year's time? Do you think you are the only one who has thought of that? People who run companies usually don't get there by being as dumb as rocks. And those that do quickly find themselves sinking. The people running these companies can no more allow economic collapse than can the state. So if economy damaging actions start getting out of hand, the people making these decisions will stop making them. They need people to buy their products.

*hands up* Okay, you got me. That's evidence enough for me. Darn it. Now when I imagine Revan's voice, it's going to include rhyming slang. Maybe we should make a Star Wars -> Rhyming Slang dictionary. KotOR III should have a bad guy called something like Darth Chav, and talk with an irritating nasal voice.

Does the idea of a company wanting its workers to work 22 hour shifts offend you? Would you work for such a company? Would you buy products from a company that wanted their workers to work those hours? If your friends were buying from that company, would you encourage them not to? If nobody was willing to work for that comapny, and nobody was willing to buy from that company, the company would not exist. And it goes without saying that using a whip on someone is initiating force against them. And of course, you continue to dodge answering the argument. And if people are not earning money, and so have no money to spend, who buys the company's products? If these layoffs had such drastic implications, then the State would not have to interfere, because the layoffs would cause a loss for the company, and so they would not make these layoffs. But you still haven't explained why this is the Company's responsibility.

Never ever trust something written in capital letters. It is most likely a complete fabrication.

You should be force-fed enough to understand what is going on in the story. You should never be in a position where you think "What the hell is going on here?", unless the game accounts for the fact that you might not know. If the plot is not being force fed, any time there is a dialogue in which something the player might not know is mentioned, "What in Yoda's name are you talking about?" should be a conversation option. If that option is not available, then suspension of disbelief is much harder, because if you do not know, chances are your character does not know, and your character should be as confused as you are. And if your character is not confused, you cannot pretend that your character is real, because they are acting unrealistically.

Last time I checked, it was called Platinum, not Platina. We aren't speaking Latin. But if we are speaking Latin, and you consider "Platina" a good reason for Platinum, isn't "Alumina" a good reason for Aluminum? Yes, Uranum and Tritum and Plutonum don't sound as nice as Uranium, Tritium, and Plutonium, but Aluminium and Platinium don't sound as nice as Aluminum and Platinum. Oh, and by the way, it isn't my "aluminum", I'm British. I just think that the Americans got some of their changes right.

They have some special special abilites, but yes, I'd agree that they aren't as far above their intended base class as the other PrCs are. And the point is quite a bit duller than that of a Guardian or Master.

Ah, of course. When one wishes to avoid answering, one makes a personal attack. Very mature of you. Nope. It's not that I don't want to answer. It's just you are talking about an ideal world, an utopia, and I'm talking about the real world here. When you open your eyes, then perhaps I'll give you a better reply than personal attacks. How exactly am I talking about a utopia? You don't even explain that, you just make a blind statement and dismiss my argument. You have done nothing to prove I am not talking about the real world. You also haven't given evidence as to why companies have a "social responsibility". Or even explained what you mean by "social responsibility".

How do you know his God is a cold blooded murderer? I know my Goddess isn't... On a similarly light note, have you heard of the Free State Project? You seem like the sort who might consider signing up.