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How do you make that decision in real time? It's not a turn based strategy game. They aren't trained to take shots like that. I'm not defending them either. It looks like a poorly handled situation. To me it doesn't matter whether 1 shot or 48 were fired, they should have tried to de-escalate the situation and they failed. Is this situation better if he's killed by 2 cops instead of 6? How do you make that decision in real time ?. By not getting spooked. Experience, leadership by someone in the group. He's not going to run at them faster than a bullet. There was time for another play besides yelling at him which with the dog and everything obviously had no effect. Isn't that exactly what I just said?

The fact that we've got 8 cops and a dog together against a single pen-knife wielding kid is ALREADY an utterly illogical scenario that begs a ton of questions -- questions about motives and reasons and the like. So yes, I'm certainly not going to dismiss the possibility of bigoted group-think. The guy was a 49 year old homeless man. If they sick the dog on him and the dog gets stabbed, is that a good outcome? We also have very little background as to why he was surrounded. But as I've already said over and over again, they handled the situation horribly and I fully support the ACLU and their ongoing legal case. Feel free what I posted earlier: http://www.aclumich.org/MiltonHall

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As a group, they all mentally weighed the value of this guy's life, and then mentally decided to kill him at the same time? That is the most logical scenario here? Who is defending what they did? I've just pointed out the flaws in your alternative solutions. I also said the solution would be to have a lead officer talking and engaging, have everyone else back the heck off, put the dog away, and worst case scenario, get a bean bag shotgun and knock him down. Whoever fired the first shot is the real culprit. He or she is the one that is dangerous to have in a tense situation. But that will be a hard thing to figure out, even with the video.

My wife is recuperating from surgery. There was no evidence of anything major wrong, so that is good. But we need to do more tests to see if we can figure out what is causing the pancreas to flare up.

You are the one making excuses by just labeling them as teh evil instead of actually talking about strategies to prevent these shootings. Why do you hate solutions? Why do you hate proper training? You really think your childish labels solve anything? This man lost his life, have some respect.

You typically don't use a taser on an armed suspect unless he is in close proximity with someone else or has his back to you. It is fairly risky to chance that you will get the prongs to fully activate, especially depending on the range. I'm super confused about the dog. You do not want to risk the dog getting killed by having him attack someone that is armed, so why is he there? He is escalating the situation. The suspect also doesn't really advance on anyone, and they seem to be closing proximity. Of course, that is why the ACLU is pursuing legal action against the department. This happened two years ago, btw. http://www.aclumich.org/MiltonHall The idea that the 6 officers were roaming around looking to gank someone is pretty unreasonable though. It's a tragic situation for everyone involved, we should be looking at ways to prevent these situations, not going on witch hunts.\ edit: The best equipment here would be a bean bag shotgun, btw.

How do you make that decision in real time? It's not a turn based strategy game. They aren't trained to take shots like that. I'm not defending them either. It looks like a poorly handled situation. To me it doesn't matter whether 1 shot or 48 were fired, they should have tried to de-escalate the situation and they failed. Is this situation better if he's killed by 2 cops instead of 6?

It looks really easy in the movies to shoot someone in the hand or leg when they are a threat, but that isn't realistic for an average cop. Also, a stun gun is not an easy weapon to hit correctly with, so it is rarely used when the suspect has a weapon. But I do think they needed an officer to take a lead position here, and that clearly didn't happen. Why was the dog there? Why did they feel the need to close on him? etc. This was a mentally unstable individual with a knife. It is a tragic situation with a tragic outcome.

Ralphy is my submachine gunner. He is low enough to make hime whatever you want, really.

It is hard to hate the Spurs. They are a bunch of elderly guys winning on wisdom and cageyness. Plus they pass the ball like artists painting a canvass.

My wife is at Stanford Medical getting an EGD with EUS. Basically they take an ultrasound as they look in her stomach and pancreas. So I am hanging out in a waiting room.

Again it is weird to me that so many guys are commenting on what it is like to be a woman walking down the streets of a city. Your perspective and opinions aren't relevant at all. Just do your best to be gentlemen and not creeps.

The reaction people have to this video is weird to me. People are all defensive about it. This is an uncomfortable video, there are a number of creepy guys who have no idea how to act in a gentlemanly fashion. You don't need to defend them. Just be a gentleman and give a polite nod or smile when passing a lady in the streets. Problem solved.

3 in 5 years, whoa. Time to go buy some shirts.

I'm pretty sure Bochy is the best manager in the game right now. You can say that again. Holy moly.

It would be pretty hard to invite all my friends to my wedding. That is typically reserved for family and close friends. Most work friends, hockey friends, and internet friends are going to be left off the list. If I won the lottery, I always imagined I would invite a bunch of folks here out for a hockey game at Madison Square Gardens and cover the costs.

Shouldn't you be doing that anyway, with your wife being unable to regularly eat red meat(IIRC)? Sadly I make all the lunches in my household. But that is more because my wife lags in the morning and the only way to get everyone out and off to school is to do thay job myself. But she isnt allergic to handling meat, thank god.

If my wife threatened to poison my lunch, I probably would start making my own sandwiches.

No online fame for empowering his daughter, that way. To be fairt, it was probably much cheaper than the wookie costume. I'm pretty much always pushing the cheapest costume option on my kids and wife.

Way to miss the point on that very uncomfortable video.

If Chun-Li threatened to kill me, I'd take it seriously and hire Ken to protect me.

Geez, we've been talking on these forums for close to a decade, those are some harsh words. I'm sorry you don't consider us friends. Honestly I've grown pretty fond of you over the years and appreciate what you bring to the community, so I'll just keep treating you as a friend.

You can feel however you want about the treatment, but that doesn't mean it is an appropriate way to treat a person. As your friend, it makes me uncomfortable to read. I wouldn't stand for it if I saw it here, I'd report it, because this is a forum that maintains a higher standard. Now I'm not calling for censorship. The Codex has their thing and if people enjoy it then that is a choice. But it shouldn't litter every corner of the internet, and people don't have to accept it as just part of being online. Acceptable behavior shifts under societal pressure. The more people that pick up the garbage, the less waste we will have on our digital playground.

I've seen the way they treated you on RPGCodex, that definitely qualifies as abuse. I get the feeling that some of you just feel that cyberbullying is not a problem. I'm hoping I'm mistaken, because that would be incredibly naive.