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But of course they do! You don't think I was hoping for complete out of touch approach? Because that would mean I'm ok with (for the sake of example) NPCs suddenly turning to Mandarin Chinese because "that's how they roll here" I merely ask for -as PrimeJunta said- "not to hung up to" urgent need of similarity to much* Because -again just like he said- both those game worlds I used as examples are coherent within their boundaries and because of that their inconsistency with newtonian laws or darwinian survival of the fittest are that much easier to accept. Could be that I didn't explained it clearly enough - if such was the case, then I'm sorry And to address the lack of printing press: I have an issue (but merely an issue, not a full fledged problem) with imagining renaissance without it, because of it's impact on the education progress and thus development of science and technology. But -again- by all means that doesn't need to be the same setting Josh is imagining <link> * on a side note: like some publisher did to Andrzej Sapkowski ("The Witcher" just in case), when changing some words in "The Road with No Return" novella, to make them more suitable for medieval-like setting, without even consulting it with him

Heh, I sense Sapkowski's influence here But I concur - the creator should be bound only by his/hers imagination, and not by some similarities expectations of it's audience. Maybe in terms of PoE, which was advertised heavy as something inspired by IE games (and thus expectations inducing) this may sound stupid or out of place. But then again, how can we predict the scale of analogy they had in their minds, while they were describing it as "colonial or renaissance era, minus the printing press"? For all I know, people behind PoE lore are Americans and can feel more like Adhin than PrimeJunta about that whole colonialism concept. But lets head back to the point - why would they have to be bound by our perceiving, if the setting in question is not even alternate reality, but a pure fantasy original IP? They don't even need to give us substitute for printing press (without which I have a hard time imagining our renaissance developing further) if they desire so. Funny enough, I'm one of those who likes backstories and well thought reasons for things to happen, because it makes things more believable and greatly improves my suspension of disbelief -but again- does it mean that only analogies to our established knowledge could achieve that? I'm no writer, not even an educated man so I may be terribly wrong, but I strongly believe that it's not the case if we are discussing foundations for a fantasy setting. Just think how illogical and different are two of my beloved game worlds - Fallout and Arcanum. First with it's vacuum tubes and huge magnetic tape reels sentient computers, and second with its steam powered airplanes manned by Ogres (the least logical choice in terms of physics) among many other examples. Both didn't provide me with more beyond "it's different" explanation, but then I didn't needed it to be historically accurate or AC Clark hard sci-fi because that was not the premise. And basically that's why I find it much easier to just forget about any reality driven rules and go with "they do not apply" as long, as the writer himself doesn't try to hard to impose different mindset upon me. Oh, and given above Fallout and Arcanum examples I'm glad that devs don't have to stick to the encyclopedically correct definitions and cultural orientation we're maimed by.

Knowing that my 6yo PC had enough power to run Witcher 2, I find it hard to believe it wouldn't be good enough for 2d heavy PoE. ...IF it had not broken down before xmas that is

All of the things you mentioned never had any lasting impact over my enjoyment of IWD. I can't say why - maybe because I didn't had any expectations for IWD (BG didn't made me a fan of a genre), maybe because I learned about it existence from prehistoric printed magazine and knew from the very beginning what not to expect, maybe because I'm not a die-hard fan of only one crpgs design* and can be satisfied as long as the game in question knows it's limitations and doesn't try to be something more. Maybe something completely else, dunno. All I know is - it didn't affected me. Sure, I immediately noticed all those differences between GB and IWD (like that npc interaction), but I don't feel that it has anything to do with just how much IE suits dungeon crawling genre. I honestly recall only two issues I had with IWD - speed spell/boots/potions and sleeping abuse I felt forced into. But they were back there in the first IE installment, which proves IMO that no matter if it's fully fleshed rpg or just a dungeon crawler, some things will stay the same: a nuisance, without any meaningful impact over the overall satisfaction. So all I can do here, is acknowledge your opinion and drop it here Oh - and there were sidequests in IWD. Sure, nowhere near BG numbers, but still they were there. edit: internet says there are +/- 17 sq *or am I? Fallout 1 and 2 are to this day my "how it should be done"

You're right - my game wouldn't be worsened in any way by that, so I'll keep my fingers crossed for you and all those folks you represent. Peace BTW: anyone enjoyed battlefields in Beyond Divinity? I hoped someone will at least try to defend them, the last time I mentioned 'em

In your opinion I would say, which of course isn't any more, or any less valid than mine. And let me tell you, that I have very much enjoyed Icewind Dale (the first) to extent of replaying it 3(?) times and then coplaying it twice (with a friend, via lan on holidays). Sure, not in a row, but I suppose it's not the point here. So if that mega-dungeon would turn out to be a game inside a game (imagining IWD like megadungeon inside BG2 here) I'd be more than happy.

I really dislike the abuse of "immersion" word. Seriously, I'm doing my best not to be hostile here, but where and what would be Arcanum (one of my top beloved crpgs) without the conflict between technology and magic? Sure, main antagonist's goals could be presented just as well without that techno-flavor, but again - Arcanum that we know and love (or hate), is all about this very conflict. I bet O knows that very well and won't loose the chance of mentioning and debating possible impact the gun will sooner or later have over PoE world. So as you (probably) already guessed I'm fine with flintlock guns. ...at least as long as they won't end up nerfed or -don't know how to explain it in other words- jrpg'ised. And yes, I KNOW that those type of firearms where neither the most powerful, accurate or reliable, but just as Plutone00 said - used wisely, they could make all the difference. Especially against someone who diminishes it's significance. dited typo

I need some back-story flavor, but not necessarily another Watcher's Keep epic scale, world threatening drama (which I liked, don't get me wrong). Durlag's Tower (or half-ogre island from Arcanum) background would suffice here. Without it, I'm afraid I'll end up bored just like I did with Battlefields in Beyond DIvinity. I'm not concerned about anything else (like mechanics, loot amount/type or design) because They already gave us enough info to keep me calm.

<drooling> Your attachement to the details and understanding of the IE feel™ is inspiring and makes this little grouch even less grumpy. Man, what a splendid day I have today - so many good news Thanks!

Why thank you. I was trying Yup, I agree and that's pretty much why I wrote earlier that I cannot imagine "translating" PC controls-combo of mouse and keyboard to console's gamepad (though it has that touch screen isn't it?). Shame really, because the only winner here are those who milk consumers "forced" to pick 2 or even 3 different systems for the sake of being able to play what they find worthwhile and wider their gaming experience. Will never agree with laws that say emulation is a crime. Like Ross Scott recently said: "there are no good reasons, only legal ones"

Pretty sure one can't assume that huge spiders would equals smalls only bigger, stronger, faster. There's a reason insects stopped being huge, and given most of those fantasy worlds are more or less similar to nowadays Earth, their biology would have to obey same rules (not enough oxygen for expanded metabolism). And lets not forget physics - can't imagine something horse sized would climb over ceiling using same principles as the "ordinary" spiders do... It's weight would be to much for friction to keep em up there. At least for smooth ceilings without additional solid gripping points. Those are things people far smarter than me pointed out, i.e. scientist Sure, one can explain all those issues with magic, but I really hate when this happens because it's just lazy. On the more proper note: after the longest day since... well since some unspecific date in not so distant past, I've managed to secure my long awaited tier upgrade. Woohoo for Obsidian for keeping their word (support gave me word on that in march) with style <no sarcasm intended> And W2 beta arrived - it will be an awesome day

Last console I had was NES (and not even oryginal one, search for Pegasus if intrigued) and after that there were times when I felt bad for missing some console exclusives. Despite it I remained pure bred computer gamer (because before PC I had Amiga) for all those years. And yet, despite my background, guess who's in my avatar? Yup, a follower (or enemy, your pick) from a console game that my younger brother asked me to play for him, in some kind genius-level-hunch that I could like it (despite the fact I never played even a single game on his PSX before). So, what I want to say is, that I wouldn't mind seeing PE on any console if only for the sake of people who choose their couch over pc gaming years ago, but deep inside still have that nostalgia about IE games. And for those who were never able to try out this kind of games, because they were/are exclusives for PC. Call it empathy Still with my limited imagination I can't (just like others) see how would they "translate" managing party of 6 in PE without making it tedious for a gamepad users. Not to mention other mouse and keyboard acrobatics. On the other hand I can -given some exercise- imagine a hypothetical company interested in handling the porting of PE (and cashing in). Especially if what some of you said about technical ease of doing so is true (dunno). And about textwalls? I suppose there is a niche for that in console's world, outside of visual novels...? Whatever, stranger things happened since I killed Sarevok for the first time, so who knows. Who knows indeed.

Hope that was a suggestion and not a "Jeopardy!" what is? style question. Because if so CLICK jk But I do feel sorry for those who never played it, and thus didn't had an opportunity to either love it or hate it

How the hell I didn't mentioned that? Sooo... I have to change my oryginal statement to "this and that unreleased Troika's postapo". And in case of Arcanum, not just a "spiritual successor" (yeah yeah, Activision I know) but a fully fleshed out prequel, with strong ties to the oryginal. Because honestly, how can you make a sequel after You introduced and closed the story of Kerghan. I for instance would be satisfied only by being allowed to explore the world back in the day, when he walked the surface of Aranum. Before the fall of Vendigroth. And obviously must is: meeting and doing stuff for/with him as well as other big names from the time of legends But once again - only if this would happen later, much later in 2014 (even as far as autumn), when a blue collar such as myself would secure some spare change Almost everything else was already covered by other KS projects. ...spare change Christ... I just realized that given the possibility I would go even for 250$ in such case, and that is madness (in my part of universe)

I've send the same question to the support in regards of the error that occurs when I want to finalize my upgrade. I thought about confirming my current tier and then upgrading it later, but given to what happened to the OP I'll wait for their response.

I won't be able to support this one, not unless a miracle happens Well maybe I would rob a bank or something if it would turn out to be a resurrection of that unreleased postapo RPG from Troika. Seriously though, I don't know nor do I care who owns the rights as this is merely a jest on my end, but given the xmas aftermatch I hope they'll wait some time with this new KS. Whatever it is.

After reading through all those quotes I had to delete my vote for no, but not because I want to change it. I can't. Sure, I buy Josh explanation/motivation and agree with many people that pointed out that the scope of BG1 wilderness areas was part of its charm. I also have to admit that having those additional 3 followers and thus covering all the classes in this regard is more than ok with me. Said that I still can't vote for yes, because just as FrostPaw said: plans don't always work out and sometimes **** happens you simply cannot plan for. I won't be able to back you up with additional funds for more or less 6 months. Even now I'm trying to upgrade my tier, but that's as far as I'll go simply because it's already irresponsible and unreasonable for a man who quit his job and whose PC just burned. Add some wild xmas spendings to the mix and voila. So to make it short: I would go YES for the idea, but at the same time would have to go NO for giving you more money. At least for a while.

Pretty much that's why I was trying to upgrade my tier for last 3 hours (and failed, but will try again after I'll get some sleep). Just wanted something really "special" and lasting (physical goods) that I could be proud of in many years to come. Well ok, and to show of, but just a little - mostly because not many of my friends would care :D ...aaand because most of my family won't ever understand the sheer level of awesomeness ("you paid HOW MUCH for that stupid box?!")

Ok, so I voted against and I'm 100% sure about it, but that one would make me change my mind instantly

Seen that at least twice so no worries, it's not your fault Now go sleep, nothing more to do until they figure it out. <maybe then I'll be able to log in muahahahahah... erm? what? did I said it out loud?>

Nothing, I would prefer saving additional ideas for expansion pack or <ugh!> DLC and focusing, or in case of "spare money scenario" even adding to already existing/achieved SG.

After initial success with singing in about hour ago I've got stuck at "manage my pledge" tab and now can't even log in, so I'd say it's a traffic spike... But that's nothing but a wild guess. Sounds like the same problem those folks have: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/64738-cant-log-in-to-pillars-of-eternity-site/ We'll have to wait, and forget about sleep

I wasn't notified about this update and up until now was completely oblivious about it oO Already whined about state of my finances so to keep it short: I'm loving it! All of it! Animations, music, environments etc.Well... maybe except for that magic explosion from 1:03. But to make it perfectly clear it's only one minor -tiny even- complaint fading in the ocean of awe! Now go back and check what a grouchy smurf I was most of this time and know* about that change into a frenzied fanboy Right. Now, excuse me while I go back to refreshing backer site in attempt to upgrade my tier. * - like Dak'kon level "know"

Ugh... An error occurred processing your order. Please try again later. If the problem persists, please contact us. But I don't want to try again later or contact You... <huffing and stomping> I wan't to give you more money NOW! oh wait... right... I've quit my job two weeks ago... and my PC burned last Saturday... ... God damn it! <pure boiling anger> Aaa to hell with being reasonable and responsible, and screw those stupid, good for nothing savings! <refreshes order page and tries again>

Pillars of Eternity huh? Like it and hope for a random encounter named likewise with a giant octopus sitting right in the middle of it. Oh and having a tea with a Bridge Keeper for an overkill ... Oh Tony... Who's gonna be a Kresselack of PE without You. damn my sidetracking