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Im going to try to KISS this, and I definitely WILL NOT incorporate any song lyrics from 1982, that just capsizes the entire ship. Everyone realizes that these particular immigrants, and their children, are illegal immigrants? These are not the immigrants that are entering via the immigration ports and are doing things the right way, these are the immigrants that are caught sneaking across the border. Imo suddenly claiming ignorance of 200+ years old laws, or screaming "ASYLYM" when the border patrol rolls up, doesn't count.

That was basically my point, that there is in fact an imprisonment associated with the offence. But you are correct, its doesn't say they must be incarcerated. I wonder, how do you fine a penniless immigrant?

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien.

Yep, the world was and is an intolerant place. The link was an illustration of the existence of immigration laws going all the way back to close to the formation of our Constitution. I don't think anyone has to be an expert on the matter to understand that there aren't any countries in the world where you just walk in and set up shop. Really? Did really nobody understand that Sally is a minor child sitting in a car seat? I guess I have to spell it out: Sally is an example of a fictional minor child who is in no way responsible for the actions of her parents. Her parents broke the law and will be going to jail. What will happen to Sally since her parents wont be around? (Protip: Im really asking why would Sally go to foster care but Salida should be left to roam the street while her parents are incarcerated for illegal immigration?)

Yep, its truly a moving tale. Are you aware that US immigration laws have existed since 1790?

Yep, the world is a rough place. But you cant honestly believe they thought they were going to waltz in and are now all shocked and dismayed to learn the contrary.

Well, imo, nobody in the world can roll up on another countries borders and claim ignorance or surprise at not being admitted without proper procedures. And "ignorantia juris non excusat", at least here in the US.

Agreed, the children become collateral damage. But why is that an "acceptable part of society" while the illegal immigrant situation is not?

So how does everyone feel about children that are put into foster case due to their (citizen) parents being incarcerated?

Im not following. In both examples the minor child is just a hapless pawn going along with their parents. Good thing people aren't losing the capacity for rational thought: "Do you hear babies crying". "Rip Barron from her arms".

Are you cherry picking which laws to enforce the same way you cherry pick which discrimination is important?

The wiki definition of "asylum seeker" seems pretty loosey goosey. Wouldn't 100% of illegal immigrants claim that status?

I don't know how they could be. The same thing happens in our criminal justice system even for citizens. Both parents get jailed for a crime, with nobody else to take the kids(s)? Into the foster system with them.

Pope Francis Slams Trump’s Family Separation Policy As ‘Immoral’. So I don't understand all the crocodile tears wrt these separations. These people are committing a crime, right? If Jack and Diane shoot a man while robbing his castle, and they have little Sally strapped into the back seat of the get away car, should Sally go to jail with her parents? Should the parents be let go because Sally is in the car? Whats supposed to happen to these minors, iyo?

The End of All That's Good and Pure About the Internet.

I had to look Juneteenth up. I wonder why its focused specifically on Texas. Does each of the ex slave states have a unique independence day?

People excommunicated by Methodist churches. Seriously, all I just did was type into Google; "Methodist excommunication".

Methodists Bring Church Charges Against Jeff Sessions For Border Policy. Golly, I hope he doesn't get excommunicated! Bahahahahaha...

I'm having trouble reconciling these two statements... No doubt you are! But Im going to pass on jumping back into this discussion with you. Its all good.

"Obtuse", lol oh lordy. Aside, Ive never once based my decision to go see a movie based on the gender or race of the characters. Weird.

Mmmm, the schadenfreude is delicious. I hope they nail him for the tuition.

With the exchange rate in Mexico being 20-1, I dug deep into my pocket and purchase a pair of Oakley sunglasses for 250 peso ($12 US) while I was on vacation. They are totally not a knockoff.

It would look like the EU. A complete soup sandwich.

Finally a break in the heat! The last three days have been 90+ (32C) but some sweet sweet rain is blowing through and the temp has already dropped to 75, on its way to the 60's. Rest of the week looks 70's too.

I suppose it can be interpreted that way. DOOM just so happens to be the topic that was brought up. I'm not bothered by the specifics (sex/race/color/etc.) but more the fact that, imo, you don't have to tear one thing down to build another thing up. What, are we out of superpowers or something? Why wouldn't they develop a whole new character instead?