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I'm going to explain this once, which you will no doubt ignore. How high is the possiblity of there being an actual killing spree against men by "SJWs"? Ok, how many times has the panic defense actually been used by murder defendants? Also, are you going to post here again or did you make an account just for that? So are you arguing that somehow this joke is contributing to the actual murder of transpeople? That sounds like a slippery slope if I ever heard one... Look, I'm not arguing that bad things don't happen to transpeople, they definitely do. But I'm pretty confident that this joke has nothing to do with those things, and will never have anything to do with those things. This isn't a hill I'm going to die on. I'm just pointing out it's a little disingenouous to make them equivalent. I don't think that they believe that people posting #KillAllMen are ACTUALLY going to kill all men. But I do think that it's hate speech regardless. Of course, now that I think about it...there was Valerie Solanas, so violence from this crowd isn't completely unheard of... Neo-Nazis and White Nationalists will likely never have their "day of the rope" or mass extermination of people they dislike in today's world. It's still hate speech because it's hate. Why people make excuses for hate of any kind is beyond me.

I'm going to explain this once, which you will no doubt ignore. How high is the possiblity of there being an actual killing spree against men by "SJWs"? Ok, how many times has the panic defense actually been used by murder defendants? Also, are you going to post here again or did you make an account just for that? You know it says in the article you linked all but one attempt at that failed? And I find it funny that you're claiming the defense "It's just a joke" for #KillAllMen, but are asking for this JOKE to be pulled here. It reeks of double standards. I'm honestly convinced Arouet is trolling after reading these past few pages. The forum has an Ignore feature. If you can't ignore them, Ignore them. Getting caught in a circle jerk does no one any good.

Of course, genocide is much funnier than suicide.

And that's not even counting banana nazi.

A developer? I thought it were people with hashtags like "killallmen" who thought that the joke is literally Hitler. Don't forget banana nazi.

Please don't change this Obsidian, I've played all of your games and have been a fan since I was 12 and I don't want to see you have to hold back because someone with a twitter is offended.

If Obsidian actually changed it, I'd lose pretty much all respect for them, as I would for any company that caters to insane twitter freakazoids that go out of their way to get offended. I can't disagree, especially if it was removed without consent from the backer who tossed in at least $500 to get it in there. If you're going to promise something to backers, don't renege on that promise.

If you're going to change it, I certainly hope you either write the person who backed it a check for his/her donation back or allow him/her to substitute another original stone of their choice. But don't change it, it's a nice little reference to The Crying Game.

We all know you only vote for the Communist Party USA, GD.

So bashing Yankees fans is ok because the Yankees are evil, and bashing someone's politics is similar? Yankees are the National Socialists of sports then. It makes a lot of sense when you think about it. I do agree in general, despite being relatively new here. Most politics discussions manage to be relatively civil(aside from trolling, which I myself will occasionally engage in), with more effort into making points than calling someone an **** and telling them to **** off. Just my opinion, I'm used to toxic places on the interwebs though.

Yes unfortunately I have first hand experience of this, a friend of mine, a reasonable, intelligent and cultured gentleman holds similar quite unreasonable views. Not quite as extreme but his impression is, as you say, that they are not really Muslims. Interesting, as that sounds similar to some Catholics' opinions on Protestants.

It was a joke mate.

Happened to me too mate. Think I'm gonna shelf PoE until the worst bugs get ironed out, perhaps a week or so.

Just use your sockpuppets.

Don't stop, you'll be missing out on lesbian erotica and that's even worse.

"From here on out, we must quote people without quotes." No.

Oh stop ....its not like you ever cared about what I said when it came to gender issues. In fact I can't remember a time where you ever supported my posts on SJ developments? Its true, I don't value what you say because you seem to be a hypocrite and most of your SJ topics focus on petty stuff like banning "bossy".

Using the services of prostitutes while taking the positions you do, such as banning prostitutes from GTA, is very hypocritical Bruce. Since you are either unwilling or incapable of explaining how you reconcile your stated beliefs with your actions, I must assume that you are either a very elaborate parody of a neo-liberal capitalist or a hypocrite. In either case, I will discard any input you have when it comes to gender issues.

Those are backer characters right? Did the backers write the text, because some of it reads a lot differently than what you normally find in game.

How do you reconcile your stated beliefs on women's issues with your patronage of prostitutes, something that actively contributes to the exploitation of women?

I have been only really discussing strippers and strip clubs, not prostitutes. So I would encourage you to try to at least read my posts before you dispute them. And of course an element of prostitution exists in strip clubs but that's not there focus What you guys don't seem to understand, and I tried to explain this, is that what Nonek is pretending to show concern for is the illegal trafficking of women in the sex industry. I am also concerned with that but the places I go to aren't associated with that type of illegal and iniquitous practice You've previously admitted to using the services of prostitutes Bruce. Nonek is calling your frequent attendance of strip clubs hypocritical but stating that it's your choice so he's fine with it, however he finds your use of prostitutes disgusting and hypocritical. I'm sure attacking Nonek's sincerity is far easier than confronting your own hypocrisy and support of a system that harms real life women. Why do you use the services of prostitutes Bruce? Why support something that treats women that badly?

Speaking of PoE, anyone else getting an arch over "st" in every instance it appears?

We were talking about prostitutes Bruce, try reading what you're quoting. Perhaps you should apply your online values to your personal life and stop using the services of prostitutes?

*Depending on where he lives. Though of course I don't believe he resides in a country like the Netherlands or Germany that legalizes and provides support for prostitutes. Both prostitution and the purchasing of services from prostitutes is illegal in South Africa. So Nonek is correct in this case. Circular arguments, which pretty much happens any time we don't have any happenings.