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That's an excessive number of P.S.s I think the fireworks (which I've noticed more of where I live) is probably because people have been stuck home for months and want something to do, rather than a conspiracy to destabilize activist groups or create a false flag to send in the cops.

Privlidge is posting ****ty opinions on facebook and acting like a martyr when you get called out. "The car hadn’t hit the kid. The kid had hit the car." The article as a whole describes some terrible ****, but this level of denial really sticks out to me.

Did they get that red dawn but with antifa movie confused with reality?

Ending the monopoly on violence sounds good to me.

It also appears that public crime data contradicts the police narrative about rape reports (only crimes reported are theft, vandalism, assault, and aggravated assault). Who could have foreseen the government lying? His administration also rolled back LGBT protections with healthcare providers...on the anniversary of the Pulse nightclub massacre. There's someone who knows dogwhistles involved in this administration, probably Miller.

No one does, 2020 ain't even halfway and we've already seen a plague and an anti-state insurgency. Remember that we lost 8 years centuries ago with calendar changes and this year is the real 2012, maybe the Mayan doomsday was right after all.

Man, in two weeks "antifa" has done more to fight the government than any supposedly freedom loving right-wing groups in their entire existence. I guess it shows that their belief in people being able to stop the government once it becomes tyrannical is bull**** or only applied to white guys running sex cults.

Googlefu tells me neither Oakland PD or the FBI believe Patrick Underwood's death is linked to the demonstration that was ongoing, David Dorn was killed responding to a robbery at a friend's pawn shop, and Chris Beaty was a protester himself who was shot trying to stop violence. Seems like bad faith to claim protesters are all complicit in such killings, but I don't have galaxy brain so what do I know.

So protestors and covid-19 mean suspending environmental policy? https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/501258-trump-signs-order-removing-environmental-review-for-major-projects

There's video of it from another angle across the street. The old man clearly falls after being pushed and the guy cops grap jumps up to try to help him. The cop who pushed the old man has already been identified.

https://www.grandforksherald.com/opinion/6520779-Port-Fargo-Deputy-Chief-sends-apology-email-after-he-was-seen-at-George-Floyd-protest-with-a-beer-can-cursing-at-law-enforcement lmao

The feds don't even think the far left and antifa were behind it...but some far right group wanted to attack the agents and shoot protesters with automatic weapons. I wonder why the 3%ers, Proud Boys, and the various militias haven't gotten the same attention from politicians and media types? https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/antifa-trump-fbi

"You do realize there are other stores than just the silly bar the silly sword guy was at? Right?" You do realize "Dallas store owner, the white guy in the green shirt that was beaten and left robbed and bleeding in the street" is very specific? Right? r00fles

Man **** happens after a few days. This is getting unwieldy to respond to so I'll just number it. 1. Well there has been several changes in the last few days to escalate the situation to make the US seem worse. Let me ask you this, if looting was happening in Hong Kong as claimed by China, HK police, and HK business owners, would that be enough for you to stop supporting Hong Kongers rebelling against China? 2. That's true of any geopolitics, and if I haven't been clear I think every state is an encroaching totalitarian regime and that virtually any rebellion against it is good. 3. Forced removal of a population is ethnic cleansing, you're confusing it with genocide. 4. I went to night classes to get a bachelor's degree and then studied to become an electrician, all while working 40 hours a week. If that's not developing a good proficiency in a skill while working I don't know what is. The idea that if you aren't doing well is because you haven't tried is usually false and condescending to boot, ignoring the effects of luck makes it down right delusional. 5. If you said "the most heinous things about white people and cops" you would be "cancelled" by another group of people. 6. The mainstream is about maintaining the present order, which is why we see the black entertainers you think hooked black people onto "gangster culture" are now trying to get people to go home and vote for Joe in five months or the white on black PR **** that various brands are doing. You also assume that people care enough about what Don Lemon or Killer Mike say to have it determine their actions, which seems fanciful at best. 7. Holding neighbors or protesters to the same amount of accountability for looters as you would the state for police ignores the difference in power between the two. The state has numerous ways to discipline police that neighbors or protesters do not when it comes to looters, the most obvious being that the state already knows who the police are. 8. Harsh policing seems to create and exacerbate crime rather than ensure safety: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-017-0211-5 The dude with the store didn't even own the business, he just charged at people with a machete because he liked drinking there (alone) and is probably some kind of edgelord. To my knowledge he was able to tweet the next day, so I think the likelihood of him dying from his wounds to be unlikely.

At that rate of death, coincidence seems less likely than conspiracy. There is no struggle against authority which is completely different, and Hong Kongers are accused of the same **** as protestors here. The only real difference is that you support one government putting down the boot and not the other. To boot, you're obfuscating and victim blaming, which is par for the course. People shouldn't have to be model citizens not to be targeted by jack booted state officials, regardless of any characteristics. Men commit violent crimes more than women and male on male crime is the biggest cause of death for the fellas. Do you think it would be fair to say that because men made a culture out of toxic masculinity for police to start aggressively targeting men? Lmao swap "CCP' for "CIA' or "State Department" and this is exactly what China stans say. I guess one thing yall can agree on is that Hong Kongers can't tell their own stories without being pawns of a nefarious organization. Do you think ethnic cleansing is "live and let live" behavior? This is like some sort of self-help tweetbot. Reducing success to "just work extra hours" is some clown ****. This is, again, bull****. There is no approval, tacit or explicit, of rioting from mainstream media, and the only "black media" I've seen supporting it is radical media run by folks outside the political spectrum that already believes the US should be destroyed. Most black celebs are focusing on a man being murdered more than the looting, but their comments are **** like "this is why voting is important" because the author of the infamous crime bill will surely be the guy to tackle police brutality. And the idea that low standards is more oppression than disproportionate policing is utterly laughable. Like white people thinking you can't do anything is worse than the disproportionate responses from police or less job opportunities.

Look into the deaths of Ferguson protesters over the years. And people here are justified in resisting against state encroachment here, when it kills, imprisons, and monitors them. People everywhere are justified in doing this. Yeah, independent groups of journalists like Lausan is pretty good. State media is as bad as CNN. It must have been another Orogun01 who said they liked Andrew Jackson because he "kicked out the jews who ran the federal reserve". That there's a significant amount of people in America who do work hard yet don't make a better life for themselves despite trying, and that they just aren't black. Most people I know bust their ass for 40 hours every week and things like stable housing or retirement are out of reach. The idea that making it just requires hard work runs in the face of reality. Given who such conflations come from, I assume they think something along the lines of "I hope I don't get shot". Could have fooled me. Anyways, this is a load of bull****. Gangsta Rap isn't the base of contemporary black culture, it isn't even the majority of hip hop as a genre of music. Even just talking about "black entertainers" (and assuming they are the entirety of a community is a ridiculous stretch) most of the time I see them saying something it's about supporting black businesses or getting educated or some vague social justice thing. This bit reads like someone watched a music video and based their entire view on black people on it.

Yes, crowd control is a different animal than surveillance or police brutality. When the dust settles you're going to see prosecution of everyone that the state can identify, and some "suicides". This also is what is happening in Honk Kong, as opposed to the tanks being rolled in to massacre protesters. Then I can only assume your knowledge of Hong Kong comes solely from western media or that you think that broken glass and fire materializes out of air. I assume you're a /pol/yp nationalist that developed into the Trump Internet Defense Force rather than admit you'd been had. I got your point, I gave you an example of some people who haven't made it in this country who aren't a racial minority and have similarly poor living standards to the minority you allude to. I've played this game hundreds of times at this point. Just come out and say what you think about this particular minority group.

You can just as easily say one is fighting against police repression while the other is using a law designed to charge a murderer as an exuse to ransack stores. Both are movements against encroaching police states and both have actors who engage in rioting, looting, and assault. If you're going to support one but not the other it's because you have biases outside of objecting to violence and crime. Folks in Appalachia got legs, I assume that holds true for folks in the rust belt. What they don't got is money or opportunities to get it. Given your apparent politics I'd assume you'd be familiar because they were a big factor in the narrative about how damaging free trade has been.

If it's the looters or the cops, I'll side with the looters just as I do in the conflict of Hong Kong. Ever been to appalachia or the rust belt?

Aside from the moralistic (dare I say Christian?) argument of valuing life over tvs or the possibility of going to jail over excessive force? There's more of them than you and you'd be better off scamming your insurance for damages than risking getting beaten to death when you're trying to reload.

Calling in the troops would be more likely to make protests more radical, it's like people haven't learned anything from the history of state repression.

It's interesting that the protesters are using the same tactics as elsewhere (such as Hong Kong) but the reaction from a lot of folks is completely different.

There's nothing to suggest that anything will change if a 3rd party candidate gets elected because even if their platforms are a massive break from the Ds and Rs that doesn't mean they will be able to implement said platform or won't diverge from it once in power. So instead of trying to implement change through voting, I think folks should try the direct action methods that really got us the 8 hour workday and civil rights protections instead of relying on statecraft. So I disagree with the assumption that a 3rd party rising is necessarily a good thing as well as the merits of electoralism, but I have a few problems with your arguments here specfic about the LP. First, I think a big reason Johnson (and the Green's hippie grandma Stein) did comparatively well is because of how **** Hillary and Donnie were. However a plurality of Americans didn't bother to vote in the first place and I think that trend will increase more than support for third parties. To this I think that success for such parties hinges upon the lack of likeability of major candidates which can and will fluctuate, so the 5% goal makes sense as a party but isn't much of an incentive to people who aren't already aligned with such a goal. Secondly, I frequently see assertions how such and such ideologies and platforms will attract a large amount of folks but I don't really see much evidence of any of it. While there's likely large groupings of virtually any ideology, relative to actual population they're marginal. Personally I've met very few "consistent libertarians", most of who called themselves "libertarians" ended up drifting towards one of the Rs or Ds, and of the rest maybe half of them went on to become white nationalists (they were 4chan types to begin with). This is just personal experience, but combined with lack of evidence for a good amount of support I don't believe there's a sleeping libertarian mass anymore than I think there's a sleeping Green mass. Lastly, I as an outsider I think parties in general are a joke and the LP trying to be more serious is hurting it. I'm fairly young for this forum and I've only been eligible to vote in 2 presidential elections (3 in November) and to my memory the LP has run a failed Republican both times. This creates the problem of not really distinguishing itself as a separate entity and was just the vote for Republicans unhappy with Romney or Trump. Comparatively the current champions of each party are a gameshow host known for bull****ing and a guy who can't remember what he said two minutes ago, and if that ain't clown **** than I don't know what is. IMO the libertarians would have more success in getting that 5% by running a bat**** entertainer than they would a "serious" candidate. I hope none of this comes off as too harsh or mean spirited because that's not my intention.

The Libertarian Party, like all parties who ain't Republican or Democrat, is never going anywhere because in addition to the lockout created by the main two parties and media its strategy is to boost party hacks or Republican/Democrat dropouts that bore folks instead of some crazy mother****er like Vermin Supreme who would get attention. This strategy will ends up reinforcing the image of the various "third parties" as knockoffs of one of the two big ones with more or less focus on particular issues rather than a genuine alternative (which does have truth to it). Voting isn't going to change anything and putting pressure outside the ballot box is more likely to get people what they want than supporting a demented creep or some party hack in the hopes next cycle will be better.

You're not going to get an unbiased response from anyone because everyone has biases. A PCC bureaucrat, a refugee living in Miami who came from money, and regular jose who has to work a normal job probably won't agree on what would be best for Cuba.