Bryy

I hope there are so many fart acheevs!

Even if that were true, I love - absolutely love with every part of my body - how you point-blank stated that "selling out" is simply finding more money. But for some reason that's still bad. How so?Imagine you are a dev of fan funded game that was funded without the "bad" publishers sticking their noses in it. Now you run out of money because you didn't finish on time (PoE was delayed from original date - fact). What do you do? You find a publisher and sell out.

To say that came out of nowhere is the understatement of the year.

So this thread hates God.

woohoo who knew we raised over $4.5 million and more coming in every day! That's fantastic and should cover a lot more art in the game. I wish I had context of how the costs dictate what is being divvied up to which department. I hope they use it towards animations and spells. What I would like to know, in all honesty, is when incoming funds spill over to DLC. Because I would be really surprised if they needed the excess at this point.

Well, hello, Mr. Straw Man. Let me introduce you to fire.

I don't frequent these boards so a few links to those "comments" would be a little more helpful. They commented on this in the first post. You're a V.I.P., so you saw the update like everyone else. There are at least two other threads, one dev-made, concerning this issue.

Oh frak yeah.

Ultimately, everything is bad and you're the only one that knows anything. This thread reminds me of that thread on the BSN where people wanted to make a game company to "show BioWare how it's done". The whole mentality is irrational, and it stems from our fear that we're not as smart as we want to be, and that the world is out of our control. We need an enemy to rally against, someone who is doing Bad. And if That Thing We Like does something even remotely related to Bad, then it obviously was corrupted in some mythical, magical way that has no basis in reality. But what I've found most disturbing is that some people with this view want other people to disagree with their viewpoint in order to validify their own superiority. It's just vijeo gaems, guys.

That was the best episode since Dale died.

True enough. I was more trying to speak to the fact that people pretty much jump to the conclusion that hiring someone to publish your stuff automatically means they own you, hence the panic welling up in response to the announcement of this partnership. I mean, if Obsidian just said "Paradox is now our publisher," and that's it, then yeah, I'd understand people saying "Okay, so... I'm curious... do the specifics of that agreement allow them any creative license with the project?". But, Obsidian's been very specific, and yet still people come in here, don't even read all the stuff Obsidian took the time to spell out for everyone, and just go "So wait, the game's Call of Duty now?!" 8P I just wish people would take the time to save everyone (themselves included) the trouble, and observe the information available before A) requesting information that's already available and B) freaking the hell out because of assumptions. I like for people who don't know things to then know those things. It's pleasant. I just wish it could happen in a smoother fashion. People don't like their Us Vs. Them view of the world shattered. That means they don't know everything.

They have. Many times.

Well, they sort of are, aren't they? I'm not sure that having a say in the design of a thing is actually an inherent part of the process of publishing. It's just very often factored into the deal. I mean, from dictionary.com: "pub·lish [puhb-lish] verb (used with object) 1. to issue (printed or otherwise reproduced textual or graphic material, computer software, etc.) for sale or distribution to the public." Doesn't say anything about designing or altering in any way. If you design a flyer, then a friend agrees to print it for you (maybe you don't have a printer at home) and hand out the copies, he's technically your publisher. I meant Paradox didn't fund Pillars.

But Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms.

There are 13 Watchers that currently exist in the world. 13 tribes of Kobol. Coincidence?

Hm, so CryEngine is $9.90. Indie games are going to get a lot more complex, methinks.

I need to look up UE4's commercial project fees, but CryEngine is only free if you are doing non-commercial stuff with it.

A super sexy booth.

So, apparently this was just announced at GDC, Unreal Engine 4 is open to the public for $19/month. My mind is breaking. https://www.unrealengine.com/

The title of this thread really needs to be changed. Paradox is in no way the publisher.

Yeah, that's the first Watcher I've ever seen on the forums.

Because the issue has been clarified ten times over. Continuing on just makes you look like you want to throw a hissy fit because of some percieved slight to gaming.

You are fishing for outrage. It's not attractive.

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For the last time: Paradox is distributing. There's a reason why Obsidian said 'partnership'.