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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. There were already a lot of beta testers without the add-on, but with the add-on, who knows. Way more, I'm sure. Too many potential NDA breaks, so why bother. I still want to be active on the forums, but maybe there will be a locked separate beta forum for the beta players. Avoid the internet indeed.

There was a very brief mention about just "early access" in the KS Q&S thread, but this thread: (No comment on the NDA bit-- that was mainly to supplement Tale's post. Also, that post might've been before the beta key was broken out as an add-on, so the statement may yet be fluid about the "personal" access part and whatnot.)

WAIT, WHAT? But Update 15..... But but.....

Thanks, Ink Blot. Also, kill full VO with fire! KILL!

No. "Many"? You're projecting your personal desires way too much there. Also, there is no alignment. I can tolerate Obsidian adding a lich-like creature related to the soul mechanism in the setting, but not as a playable race (meh) nor the other things, really. I'd rather they not add vampires or zombies either, though the latter could work with the soul mechanism okay. ...Nah.

I'd vote for humorous homage easter eggs. Subtle, hard to find--requiring exploration and sharp eyes into every nook and cranny of the PE world, items, NPCs. But that's it--nothing too much, too over the top; wit is far better than comic relief, especially in a game that wants to be more mature.

As much as I'd love to see more companions, additional companions means less depth to the current stable--it's an inverse relationship between quantity and quality. PS:T only had 7 companions compared to BG2's 18 or so, but they carried significantly more depth. Also, unlike programming which can be spread horizontally across different groups, I'm leery about spreading writing across different people. Avellone wrote PS:T all by himself. Now there's Ziets, so that can help, but either Feargus or Tim did say somewhere that it takes around 3 months for Avellone to write a character, or something like that. The workload increases linearly when it comes to writing companion content. And now we have to consider what can be done with mods. There are certain things that are easier left to the modding community than added as a stretch goal. A toolset would be nice, but modders are quite capable in creating their own tools so long as the content data is kept transparent. So I will vote for a full orchestra with rare period instruments (hurdy-gurdy!).

They were (almost) stated as companions in the update #15: That's what I thought! Aren't they all slated companions? I mean, it's officially stated in an update and all...

Um, plz can have Sagani concept art in Polina style too? Thx. Ooh, more stuff... Documentary I like. Cards...... I could give as a gift. Edit: Also, I love that Edair's skeptical/wary look is directed at Aloth's direction. HA!

Braids. Like Sagani. Awesome!

I thought it said 'The World' because they have yet to come up with a name for the game, or at least I remember that conversation somewhere. Kickstarter Q&A with Feargus, Oct 12 They're going to name it. Map is incomplete, a mockup. ....Personally, I want a Waterman Butterfly version!

Potions and balance? Not a problem if the enemy AI is written to take advantage of it too. There--balanced. (Obviously doesn't work on creatures, but that can be balanced other ways. /shrug)

I see good arguments on both sides. There's no way to truly take into account potential technology ten years from now and of course we have to consider Obsidian's resource limitation; perhaps there's a compromise point. Render for our current tech, but go just a bit further... up to what point is up to Obsidian's judgment by resources?

No. Someone suggested this in a different thread too, and my feeling this would be a bad idea is the same: Mega dungeon crawls, while I like them fine, definitely aren't for everyone in a game of this breadth; many are looking for the broader exploration themes of BG. Locking a big city content behind an optional dungeon crawl isn't the best way to go about it. (And boss->loot mechanics can get boring for me, but I play an MMO on the side so I expect a whole lot more from PE.) Added: Tigranes' suggestion for an under-dungeon below the city would be nifty.

Come Monday: Puuuuuuush. You can do it, Kickstarter! I know this is a big one--lookit the head circumference, man--puuuuuuush! KS: omfgwhydidIdeclinetheepiduralffffff-----!!!!

Darker and Edgier Meh. Along PS:T lines for me. I mean, I expect some darker themes as well, but there comes a point where "mature dark edgy!" from that trope becomes so ridiculous and then rounds the corner straight into boring for me. Consoles. ~Whatever~

It's also a prediction that it's actually people like you who are unable to prevent yourself from "savescumming" and thus demand a mechanic because you lack any self-control and are projecting it on others to save your own ego.

What's Grimdark?

I was wondering how you knew they were updating. Magic! Say, huh.... what is that green monster head on the tier pictures supposed to mean? I never noticed it before...

Uh, it comes down to both what you can afford and what you really value in each tier. Asking someone else for their personal evaluation of priorities in a tier probably isn't going to be all that helpful for you... You're experiencing that sort of rolling enthusiasm that the retail industry likes, anyway. It's not about a "good deal." Can you pledge that much and want most of the things (or really want just one thing at the tier)? Will you regret it?

Whooooo, fandom....... Oops, hit post too quickly. Actually, I imagine the personalities to be kinda like that. Edair's and Aloth's especially, haha.

KILL DA:O CODEX WITH FIRE. A lore recording option would be nice and can be immersive (well, less meta-gamey) if attached to the quest/notes journal appropriately, so I'm in favor of that. Your idea for a better "unread" flag is a lot less annoying than DA:O's codex icons, certainly, and a filling-out map would be great, perhaps as a ToC of some kind. There's another idea, though. I'm not averse to finding a bunch of books and scrolls and keep notes on lore without a journaling mechanism--we're going to have a stronghold. One of those rooms should be a library!

I'd actually prefer if the two big cities were not mirror images of each other (e.g. mostly slums vs. mostly high society). There are other ways to create differences without resorting to "opposite!" which feels cheap to me (e.g. dark elves, so caricatured): cultures and cultural expectations, laws, theocratic dictatorship versus monied oligarchy, different underlying popular religions, trade powers, underworld powers, racial makeup, etc. Metropolises by their nature are giant bell curves, so I'd expect some overlap. A family-run business Y in one city is going to have very similar concerns as another family-run business Z in another city, but perhaps Y has to worry about the theocratic police because their clientele is mostly from outlier populations and Z has to worry about gang activity.

They're releasing a lore almanac to help the PnP front, and they're considering adding other related PnP books later on (Kickstarter Q&A sessions with Feargus).

Co-op games get played, but including in a single player game, yeah that's incredibly inefficient use of resources and not worth it at all. If they do co-op, it should be an expansion, stand-alone, with a separate campaign. Everybody should play Portal 2 and Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light co-op, that's some of the best gameplay you'll ever find. The best solution is to have a separate Kickstarter for each of those various minority things that people ask for in terms of high technical costs--console port, co-op mode. Let Obsidian calculate the amount of time and money would be necessary for each (e.g. expansion built ground-up for co-op) and see where the KS goes. Then if the target audiences manage to fund either, the mechanisms are already paid for and Obsidian doesn't have to worry about losses or stripping too much content. Those are all side projects, though.