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Ummm....it might just be me, but adding XBox Live availability to code is probably *NOT* a simple 1/2 hour job. It's probably considerably much longer. :ph34r: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Answer-

Pretty straightforward. Just wanted to see. I'm not voting. "

What if they write one book and people who like it will buy it for $$ and the people who don't like it don't really have to go out of their way to buy it. They take a poll to see what the majority wants. As with all things, you can't please everyone. And in speculation, I don't know what the big deal with some people is since Star Wars isn't really a feminist charity organization. "

Agreed. We already know the story of Revan and the Exile. No sense in writing a novel about it. KOTOR era=yes KOTOR game story=no <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How illogical. All of the SW trilogy/prequel movies are written novels. Even Episode III novel is just out. And don't forget comic books. You can't read them all in one lifetime. It makes perfect sense as long as they make a profit from writing it, and I as with many people would by the book regardless of it's content because I'm a big fan of the Star Wars franchise as are many many people.

Was it too much effort to take the half hour of development time to add Xbox Live Aware in the game?

Yep, Obsidian didn't prepare for the fact that they were gonna mess up and be able to fix it.

Yeah, I can't believe that happened either. I thought the 2 droids were good friends.

Are the KOTOR 1 and KOTOR 2 HK-47's the same HK-47? Or just same models but different droids?

If Obsidian haven't made KOTOR 2, then BioWare would when they were finished with Jade Empire, and it would be 20x better. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No->Kotor1-mediocre kotor2-great <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's why KOTOR 2 has lots of Game of the Year awards and great reviews. :cool:

You cared about it enough to post.

If Obsidian haven't made KOTOR 2, then BioWare would when they were finished with Jade Empire, and it would be 20x better.

I liked that Tyrant, the Imperial-Class Star Destroyer that captured the Tantive IV.

I'm looking forward to this. Just wondering, do you need to use a CD burner to put this update into your Xbox?

Mad because you don't read the novels? There's more than just novels. And there is more to KOTOR than just an RPG that you can play a finite number of times before the fun factor starts to fade, and RPG that is probably going to end after KOTOR 3 if it hadn't ended already. As I mentioned in my last line, why would it hurt to to have a fixed story line? If you want a epic story of your own to exist in your imagination, by all means, your mind is yours. How hard would it be to ignore something beyond this game that I don't see possibly capable of hurting your imagination one bit? I presume you're afriad that a fixed storyline would ruin your "own imaginative ideal storyline" for your own epic in your imagination. I assume that's what you're arguing for, since I already said I'm alright with all the possibilities including a female Revan as long as it is fixed. Why else would you oppose such a simple reasoning? Again, would it be so hard to ignore the fixed storyline if all you just want is to have something that exists in your own imagination? And even if you aren't open to a fixed male Revan, but rather a non-fixed setting open to your own imagination, having a fixed storyline should make everybody happy because you can always have a female Revan exist in your own imagination and ignore the fixed storyline, no?

So what? What exactly are you wanting? I don't understand -- you want the KotOR games to be referenced in detail in the other SW literature -- is that right? Why? And why is that more important than including everybody who played the games in the community, of respecting the zeitgeist of KotOR? Would you be prepared to have Revan as a female? Would that still be okay? What about if she were DS. Is that okay? Just so long as she is categorised and labelled, so that she can be referred to in other comics and the greater EU? I think it is better on all counts to have a non-specific Revan and Exile: bathed in myth. Just so I don't exclude you from my vision of Revan and you don't exclude me from yours. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought I made it clear. Do I think KOTOR should be reference in detail in other SW literature? Of course. Why? Because I think it's better if KOTOR can exist more better than just an RPG and an imagination in everybody's head based upon the settings of a world famous great trilogy. I'm fine with anything as long as it is fixed. But if you take a poll from all Star Wars fans on whether to make Revan/exile as male/female, I suppose that male would be voted for more by the mainstream. The word is up to LA, but they are a profit organization and generally base their choices to maximize profit. I could be wrong, however. I'm always open to a female Revan/exile as long as the setting is fixed and not loose to leave to everyone's imagination which will limit its effect from the SW universe. If you don't agree, why don't you make your own story where a female is the hero? Why use Star Wars, which started as a fixed trilogy and has been the source of interlinked entertainment ever since. Example- You can't write a book with Revan or Exile as the main character because you don't know what he/she is? You can't mention Bastilla, Junahi, Jolee, Mission, etc because all their fate depends on a fixed Revan setting. Just by you mentioning Jolee for example (just mentioning, put having as a main character aside), it means Revan is light side, because otherwise he'd be dead. Unless it's a pre-KOTOR story of Jolee, but you can't get anymore post-KOTOR stories of either one of those characters. And even if you aren't open to a fixed male Revan, but rather a non-fixed setting open to your own imagination, having a fixed storyline should make everybody happy because you can always have a female Revan exist in your own imagination and ignore the fixed storyline, no?

KotOR already appears in the SW universe. Phantom quoted reams of it in another thread. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, but very limited however, as I mentioned. The characters won't be mentioned as much because they are so vague. Is Revan a male/female/light/dark in that thing you mentioned from Phantom's thread? Even if some of the settings of KOTOR gets mentioned often later in the SW universe, the characters that aren't fixed sure as hell won't be mentioned a fraction as often as if they were fixed. Example- You can't write a book with Revan or Exile as the main character because you don't know what he/she is? You can't mention Bastilla, Junahi, Jolee, Mission, etc because all their fate depends on a fixed Revan setting. Just by you mentioning Jolee for example (just mentioning, put having as a main character aside), it means Revan is light side, because otherwise he'd be dead. Unless it's a pre-KOTOR story of Jolee, but you can't get anymore post-KOTOR stories of either one of those characters. Thereby isolating KOTOR from SW universe and that's bad for KOTOR in the long run.

In addition, not having a fixed story line means no one can make a Star Wars boot on KOTOR, and would be hard for future Star War books to mention KOTOR in it. KOTOR would exist less in the SW universe because future authors/game makers would be detered to involve the KOTOR characters and keep true to the official Star Wars storyline because it has so many possible storylines that not one of them can be official, and picking the wrong choice means they go bankrupt. And THAT would suck for KOTOR existing prominently in Star Wars universe in the long run. Unless you don't plan on having KOTOR existing prominently in Star Wars universe, but keep it a seperate thing from SW all together? That would suck for the other Star Wars fans to isolate KOTOR in such a manner. I hope I make it clear so you understand my POV, although you don't have to agree with it.

I added a fourth point, so you'll have to renumber. You seem to be trolling, but in cae you aren't I will answer your points. First Point. Making KotOR3 much more complicated? Are you kidding? Check out Bioware's Dragon Age (I'll quote for you): 1.03: What is the storyline of Dragon Age? (Back to Top)[/html] For the first time, you choose how your character

I see no dispute regarding his gender. There may be doubts abou his sexuality, but everyone knows that he was a man. If he was a man who liked men, women or dog (creepy, I know) he would still be a man ( a very wierd, deeply disturbed man, bu a man nonetheless). And your point is? I mean. The society described in the SW universe, even by the time of KoTOR is far more advanced than ours, let alone the societies that Michelangelo and Socrates lived in. And there were plenty of witnesses for their actions. I mean Revan was easily one of the most proeminent figures of his time. I can accept that many people couldn't tell wheter Revan was man or woman, since Revan was always masked. But I can't really understand how people more close to him wouldn't know. Dind't Revan ever talked? By the sound of someone's voice you can tell if it's a man or a woman, even if you can't see the face. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My point is that it is entirely possible to be non-specific about it. Socrates is the father of philosophy. It has been said and re-stated innumerable times that all modern philosophy is just footnotes to Socrates. And we have doubts (albeit small ones) that he even existed. I was merely using this real-world analogy, and expanding this uncertainty to include the gender of the two figures in the KotOR games. And the benefits are: 1. Prevent issolating those in the community who like a female (or the opposite gender to the one that is arbitrarily selected -- and I'll lay a bet now that if one is selected it will be male, which re-inforces the twenty pages of debate in this thread). 2. Encourage people to go and play the games, so that THEY can decide. 3. Add some mystery to the whole epic story. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't forget: 4. Making KOTOR 3 much more complicated and difficult to make should one come out. 5. Not everybody is a fan of mysteries that are never solved. 6. Star Wars wasn't made to be a feminist charity organization.

They won't? Why not? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Probably because it would cost money. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Money coming out from LA or Obsidian pocket? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good question. Presumably LA don't want to fund it and Obsidian don't either. But this is speculation because I haven't heard any confirmation beyond the Ass. Prod. saying that "We asked LA if we could make a content patch and they said 'No'." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Probably Obsidian wanted LA to foot the bill for Obsidian's mistake. Just a speculation.

They won't? Why not? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Probably because it would cost money. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Money coming out from LA or Obsidian pocket?

They won't? Why not?

First of all, that's not a video game. That's a movie. We can't make Leia into a guy either, but nobody's going to protest, because that's a set story--one person's vision, not an RPG, which is the player's vision. That you would even compare the two mediums says nothing good about your ability to apply common sense to this situation. Second, did you ever actually SEE what's under those robes? And don't you think Anakin is rather androgynous anyway? Metadigital's scenario is all too credible! A video game in the Star Wars universe. And everything in SW is set. According to Lucas, who has the real word over everyone here.

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