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Sarex brings up a good point. There may be a cultural disconnect as it relates to what the dichotomy is between what is considered civil/heated/aggressive. We have Australians, Serbs, Germans, Dutch, Brits, Koreans, Africans, Americans, etc., Hell, even the dispositions of New Yorkers would be different from Iowans and Californians. Each have different life experiences and varying levels of conflict. What is normal to an Aussi may be blunt to a Californian. What is tactful to a Londoner is groveling to someone from Belgrade. Most of us are fans of Obsidian and want them to succeed and each has their own agenda as to their ideas for what makes a worthy IE successor. Thanks for the perspective and reminder Sarex --that we are an international community. OK. Enough pandering to the Kumbaya crowd....

PAX thread. In fact, Indira and Nonek should apologize to me for its demise.

It's not nearly to the BSN level either. And definitely not to the Bethsoft forum level. Relatively speaking, these forums are as civil as gaming forums can ever be. The echo chamber ideal some of you seem to be seeking is just as unhealthy as it is unattainable. And you wouldn't want it anyway, whether you think you do or not. If you're here, then that means you're a GAMER, and gamers are competitive by definition. Thus a forum filled with nothing but quiet, peaceful agreement will bore any gamer away rather quickly. Your opinion. I like Internet drama just as much as anyone but a line is crossed if the general feeling among the Devs is that the forums have become too uncomfortable to their taste to engage with their fans --some reflections have to be made. There's plenty of trolls here --and that's fine and actually pretty entertaining, but I've avoided posting in many good legitimate topics because I don't want to get drawn into a flame war --of which you specifically seem to be embroiled in quite often due to your particularly inflammatory posting style. I actually agree with some of your sentiments but you need to take down the aggressiveness a notch, if you want some of the devs or other posters to be comfortable enough to chime in.

@caesar It's not nearly to the Codexian level - and even there lots of it is in good fun, but here there has been growing nastiness whether it's passive aggressive or directed. And that's not good fun.

In normal behavior, when one is either directly or indirectly bad mouthed, the normal response would be to either to dish it back out and engage or walk away. Those that are non-confrontational in nature would be more likely to walk away and disengage from discussion rather than participate. See what's happening here? *edit* looks like the post I was responding to was disappeared.

Josh Sawyer interview.

I've always been fond of Carlos the Dwarf myself.

Yeah. That would be a nifty option. I Doubt they'll be implementing it for release. Maybe in a future patch or in the expansion?

I'm just glad that Lawrence Kasdan is involved with the script.

Another entry: http://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Aedyran_Dialects

The Pillars of Eternity wiki is probably the best place for it. You can also try asking Josh Sawyer specific questions directly on his tumblr. http://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Aedyran http://jesawyer.tumblr.com/

What's there to state that they didn't cover in their last update? Their feature set is essentially on lockdown and they are working on getting the game released in two months. After the next beta release, I'd rather they concentrate their resources on getting the game polished as best they can. Their next KS update should have information on reward redemptions.

Referring to me then. *looks up hyperbole* Fine...substitute toxic with antagonistic.

This is simply untrue, especially when we're talking about the guys who make up Obsidian. I was *there* on the Black Isle/Interplay forums when they were developing Icewind Dale 2. I was *part* of the community that begged Josh & Co. to implement Deity-based Cleric domains (which they ended up putting in at the last minute thanks to our forum feedback, for example). There's very little that's truly new here, and NOTHING has changed in Chris Avellone's public communication.... except maybe he's communicating even LESS now. I was there too Yrkoon. Josh was pretty active back then, but it's not like Josh and Obsidian as a whole are shut ins and that they are not taking our feedback and doing with it as they wish.

It is a mysterious mystery What a waste of a perfectly good softball toss. The proper Black Isle/Obsidian response would be: It is...a mystary!

These boards were at its most vitriolic state immediately after the release of KotOR 2 and it got so bad that Feargus was very close to closing the forums. Avellone was actually pretty active (along with Rich Taylor aka Akari) during this time and he had to take the heat (and never placed the blame on LucasArts) for the ending of KotOR 2. There was this one especially *touched* poster who kept on ragging the guy for the art design of the Basilisk War Droid. I don't think Chris ever fully recovered after that experience and stopped posting regularly. But lets not say that Chris has completely shut himself off to the community or with community interaction. He regularly attends conventions, grants interviews, responds to emails, and is quite active on twitter. He's even solicited kickstarter feedback directly on these boards. http://forums.obsidian.net/blog/1-chris-avellones-blog/

Instructions on how to make your own: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/66894-how-to-make-custom-portraits/ Also, Tartanyco compiled portrait packs from the BG and IWD series as well. http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/67705-icewind-dale-2-portraits-for-pillars-of-eternity/

As Starwars, PJ, and others have pointed out, they can't spend too much time with actual discussions -if the environment is toxic and leads to endless debate. They have people reading the forums --culling feedback, and yes responding and/or discussing when warranted, but constantly wading into the fray and debating minutae ad nauseum would not be a productive use of their time, budget, and mental health. Would we like them to interact with us more often on these forums? Absolutely. Would they like us be a little more friendlier and less toxic? Very likely. It's probably saner to be a little detached rather than get directly involved in flame wars. Hell, even Gaider quit the Bioboards. The BIO BOARDS! Josh is no dummy. He knows that whatever he posts --whether it's on twitter, his tumblr, or on SA will make its way here. But he does these on his own (personal) time and when at work, he still will post here for purposes of specific feedback or clarification.

You realize that they've made at the very least, 88 official updates and progress reports since the kickstarter began --far more than any other kickstarter project I've backed. http://forums.obsidian.net/forum/89-pillars-of-eternity-announcements-and-news/

We already have that ability.

I actually really enjoyed Marco Polo. I like the snippets of history. I like the casting of Asians in asian roles. The kung fu is pretty rad. As is Mongol horse culture. Much propage for bringing the subject matter to a whole new audience and maybe getting people interested enough to study up on it.

That party of chanters though. I've always wanted to try running with an all chanter or paladin group with all their buffs stacking on top of each other.

I believe he was referring to a pop up or icon on a companion portrait that indicates that he/she wants to chat.

Huh. Dang, where's the option for that in Turbo Tax?

Party members and controllable NPC movements behave like synchronous swimmers when given movement orders while grouped together.