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^^ that's what defeat looks like. Savour it. Actually I agree with lickety around this debate. Both Alan and Hiro clearly are prepared to go into much detail and use links and quotes from previous comments. You have really believe in your point and be prepared to spend time to engage further in this type of detailed discussion

Wow that is something very different. Looks really interesting

Here's the exact phrase Al[sic] it takes for Islam to be threatened is a teenage girl with an opinion. Note, however, that his reply didn't quote the video. He simply clicked reply to a series of replies to which one 3 levels deep made reference to the video. Commonsense (as opposed to "common sense," if we're wishing to be pedantic) is overrated. Proper usage of words goes a long way, however. Islam is a religion. If he's referring to the governments and societies, it's best to be clear when stating that. Especially given that equating Islam with the countries is precisely how stereotypes perpetuate. Well, at least you're willing to acknowledge your own misuse of stereotypes and assumption. So I'll give you a bit of credit for that. It should be noted that I made no qualification for where I was referring to people. That's something you (and arguably he) did. I'm referring to ALL Islamic people, and as stated made no such distinction (at any time) to the geography that I was referring to. Unless you're purporting that the Islamic people that send their Islamic little girls to schools in the Islamic countries (only to be attacked by Al-Qaeda) or not Mulsim.... Or does Malala not have Muslim parents? ----------- Or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing, --------- Let's just be honest here... both of us are. And he probably is too. Or are you genuinely attempting to educate me on something? (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not trying to educate me to equate "Islam" with "All the countries with a large Muslim population" because that's an awful thing to try to educate me upon). ---------- because your quote here comes across as a bit childish. eg. I'm not going to answer your question until you change your stance. na na. Why not just answer likety-split's question? ---------- It totally is childish. As is his response to me about how I didn't answer the question when I was pointing out that my response had nothing to do with the [new] question he was now posing (by which he continues to evade responsibility for his usage of the term Islam). I didn't just answer the question because it deflects away from the actual issue I am addressing. "Al[sic] it takes for Islam to be threatened is a teenage girl with an opinion." All it takes for Al-Qaeda to be threatened is a teenage girl with an opinion. All it takes for alanschu to be threatened is a licketysplit with an opinion on the Islamic religion. All it takes for licketysplit to be threatened is an alanschu with an opinion that his comment is silly. All it takes for Hiro Protagonist to be threatened is an alanschu with an opinion that Hiro feels is childish and unnecssarily unconfrontational. All it takes for America to be threatened is a black woman with an opinion (that she should be allowed to sit in the front of the bus). All it takes for ALMOST ANYTHING to be threatened is SOMEONE with an opinion [that challenges the status quo]. Feel free to fill in the blanks (that is, the capital letters) and it's a silly statement of the obvious that has the unfortunate implications of stereotyping an entire religion and all the followers of it. And you're living proof that it's a problem since you knew specifically what he was referring to. And yes, I stand by my statement that callously using the term "Islam" when referring to a specific subset of the religion is irresponsible, and helps reinforce negative stereotypes and is frankly part of the damn problem. As for the question, as hopefully my point and reasoning for engaging with him is NOW PAINFULLY clear, here it is: Women in counties that have large Muslim populations are generally mistreated in that they do not have (what I consider) many of the rights, privileges, and (most importantly) protections that I feel they should have. I think that the countries have a long ways to go, and in some cases (such as Pakistan) have regressed for a variety of reasons. Now, disassociate the religion from the culture. Are women treated the way they are in the Muslim world because of the the Quran? Or are there other cultural aspects that may be contributing (even more so). The actions of many of the countries in those regions come across as very different than the descriptions of the Quran that I am familiar with. While the Quran does have some problematic elements in it, with regards to wives (distinction: not all women) being placed under the care of husbands (distinction: not all men), it's actually pretty explicit on how men and women are seen as equals before God, and has a pretty strong history (especially at the time) of enabling women as well as advocacy for equality between the sexes. Some confounding variables, however, are that many of the countries with large Muslim populations suffer from cultural challenges with respect to their traditions as well as their government types. No country in the Muslim World is considered a Full Democracy, with most being considered Authoritarian or Mixed Regimes. Though I'm speculating at this point, I'd wager there continues to be cultural influences that continue to undermine women, as even North America and Europe still find themselves suffering from a lot of problematic issues in terms of gender/sex discrimination. Okay I think I get what you are saying? Basically you don't like Gypsies and think they are after our jobs and want to influence our established Western lifestyles? Or am I misreading your posts....

I know that wasn't meant to be funny but the way you said it was funny

OMG !!! You have never played the Witcher ??? Okay you need to rectify that and soon. I was under the impression that in the Terms and Conditions of this website you had to have played Witcher in order to join as a member, but I may have misunderstood something

I enjoy Mob series. Good find and the next season of Boardwalk Empire is also showing so we have some nice choices in the genre

I watched the first episode of the 3rd season of American Horror Story, it appears to be more outlandish than previous seasons but is shaping up to be just as excellent

QFT

Why in the hell would you not peruse GOG? Yeah, why would any gamer not want to use GOG?

Because you made a blanket statement against an entire religion. I could claim that all it takes to send male gamers into a froth is a young woman claiming that women are poorly represented in games. Just see the ****storm that gets pulled up there. A teenage girl with an opinion can freak out a lot of people regardless of whether or not they are a follower of Islam. I agree that there is a level of sexism and discrimination in certain gaming communities. This needs to be discussed and rejected. So this is also a campaign for equality activists, like me. But I also am opposed to religious fundamentalism

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2013/10/confirmed-grand-theft-auto-breaks-six-sales-world-records-51900/ So this is really interesting, GTA V has broken 6 Guinness world records !!! These include the fastest game to reach 1 Billion in sales revenue and the game that has generated the most revenue in 24 hours. We done Rockstar !!! You should be proud of yourself and all the hard work

Your opinion is deeply flawed, you are suppose to hate AC3. Everyone knows that? I think you need time to reflect on what you saying and then repost

Because you made a blanket statement against an entire religion. I could claim that all it takes to send male gamers into a froth is a young woman claiming that women are poorly represented in games. Just see the ****storm that gets pulled up there. A teenage girl with an opinion can freak out a lot of people regardless of whether or not they are a follower of Islam. Then how do you think, in general, women are viewed in Islamic countries? I've travelled and worked extensively in the Middle East and it is a fair statement that most Muslim countries follow a certain view of Islam that would be considered conservative to most of us. There is room for improvement around many social issues like womens rights. For example in Saudi Arabia women can't work or even drive a car. But then in UAE ( Dubai) women can work and you can buy alcohol. But then you get an interpretation of Islam from certain groups in places like Pakistan or Afghanistan that is just medieval and unacceptable. Where women shouldn't be educated and should have no rights at all. As I mentioned this needs to be addressed and condemned. I have come to realize that sometimes we need to just leave certain social fights until a country is ready for the changes. So in Saudi Arabia most of the women seem happy with the status quo. And since Saudi Arabia is a friend to the West we need to be cautious with insisting on changes or trying to enforce our way of life. I believe changes will come naturally in most places

Good topic Op My typical party is Wizard\Sorcerer (me) Fighter Ranger Thief Cleric Druid

There are truly very few things in life better than a medium rare rump, you just need some salt and you are good to go.

I get nostalgic enjoyment from your updates of Risen 2, it reminds me of all the things I also did in the game

She is very impressive for someone so young who has been through what she has been through It also begs the question " what type of people would shoot a 15 year old girl for wanting women to be educated" And these are the types of the people the West is suppose to negotiate with in places like Afghanistan

lol..the thought of that just cracks me up Imagine this quiet, personal wedding and all these people from the forum using a number of RV camping and carousing in GB backyard

She said yes! More details when I get home tomorrow! We all expect to be invited to the wedding. I have to say Hurlshot I didn't expect you to be so forward but I second your opinion. GD how soon before the wedding do you want the people from this forum that get invited to come through to the USA? I am thinking maybe 3-5 days so we don't suffer from any jetlag?

If this is true, IF this is true, then it will work out well for me as I plan to build a new rig late next year, and this releasing in early 2014 would fit that plan well: GTA V releases in March or April > Build new rig in September or October > Buy GTA V at 75% off during Winter Steam Sale. This is incredibly good news, to say I am elated and excited is an understatement. The first quarter of 2014 is sooner than I expected

They should give warnings for being an elitist grammar policeman don't you think KAINEPARKER !!! QFT, well said

, after all when has a thread stayed on point True dat

This is another good example that highlights the abject failure of the war of drugs

My cousin got arrested for dealing last week. I think everyone has a criminal cousin. Today I went to class, flirted with a sexy girl, and now am going to watch a movie. That's terrible, sorry to hear. What type of drugs was he caught dealing? Meth or coke. I am going to make a controversial point but one that people often debate. The way to deal with drugs is legalize everything. I have considered this and my reasons are No one actually stops taking drugs because it is a criminal offense. For example when was the last time you heard someone say "I'm not taking drugs anymore because person x was arrested" People will take drugs irrespective of whether its a criminal offense This is the way to truly break the power of the drug cartels Governments can tax the sale of drugs and ensure that at least the quality is pure You can have proper rehabilitation centres and decent awareness campaigns so that people can get the help they need if they are addicts Now before people say " how can you suggest such a thing" you need to realize that the so called "war on drugs " was lost the moment it was started. Its a simple dynamic. Supply and demand, there will always be drugs as people want them. Just because drugs would be legal it doesn't mean people will suddenly take them at work, take them at all or all the time. Its the same as alcohol, do you drink at work?

My cousin got arrested for dealing last week. I think everyone has a criminal cousin. Today I went to class, flirted with a sexy girl, and now am going to watch a movie. That's terrible, sorry to hear. What type of drugs was he caught dealing?