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You right to a certain a degree, I am also helping there agenda because by vilifying the game I am also drawing attention to it. But end of the day this is a thread around the discussion of games, so I am only discussing this game on this forum and BSN. Its not like I'm going to every website I know and saying " OMG have you guys seen this terrible game and how bad it is "

If you're doxxing; you're intentions are not good. But did you read the article, its obvious she didn't understand what she was really doing. She felt that that guy from GG hated her. There is loads of propaganda going on and that leads people to make misplaced decisions. I think this is a "feel good story " about this whole GG debacle because it has a positive outcome?

We'll see how many lessons they've learned if any. I want to be optimistic too but... with keyboard/mouse controls being a last minute addition, for example, it's pretty obvious they still think that PC gamers are 2-nd class. Without seeming like I'm defending that late decision from Bioware I am a PC gamer only but I have used a Controller successfully on several PC ports like Darksiders and Sleeping Dogs. My gaming experience was fine So my point is "do we really need a M\KB to offer an entertaining RPG experience in a game like DA:I" ? I agree on certain games that the M\KB is the better option but can we see a future where we can play an immersive RPG with a Controller ?

But Volo that's exactly what they want, part of there strategy is a form of manipulation. They are aware that at the moment in the gaming industry certain gamers are very sensitive about being told " what games are acceptable to play and what games are not" So they create a game that is basically a rejection of " politically correct games ". They are relying on people to say " yes I'm going to buy this game as form of protest to being told what I can or can't play " But they are manipulating you into thinking this is entertainment that is going against the trends, when in fact its just garbage. And I'm not suggesting you want to buy this game as you have already said you probably won't. I am just giving context why this game exists

Kind of a nice story. Shame I also though the story was quite sweet, when she said " she was just trying to be a good feminist " Doxxing is obviously wrong and this young lady has got to the point where her idea of fighting the good feminist fight is so misplaced that she feels doxxing is the appropriate response That's the reality for certain people on both sides of this debate, good intentions but terrible approach and response

7/10? Wouldn't award more than about 3/10 myself, and that only because he got some bites. It's a pure oby topic, just from the exact opposite direction. Initially I was going to make some snarky comment but then I thought " I am partly responsible for this polarisation on these forums " when it comes to discussions on Western culture and Western ideology . And this probably goes back to the Ukraine thread where we all drew lines and became intransigent So I want to make a concerted effort to reach out to you and get you to comment in way that is constructive. So lets take what you just said and why you said it? You have become so convinced in all the faults with the West that when I make a post that is linked by a factual link you assume I must be trolling? I'm not, the facts speak for themselves This is not a discussion about Western foreign policy, this is not a discussion about Western intervention in controversial arenas around the world and why they do it. Lets leave that for other threads This is about a simple political consideration. Western countries offer there citizens the best quality of life and have the happiest citizens. So isn't the corollary of this the fact that Western governments have the best run governments in the world? Why is this point so difficult for you to agree or disagree with? If you disagree with me then post your own list of countries with a valid link that discuss happiness factors so I can review it. If I'm wrong about what countries offer there citizens the best lifestyle then I want to know about it . But all I'm getting with some people who disagree with me on this thread is " you wrong about your list, you must be trolling " The whole question of what type of governments are the most effective is very relevant to me because in Africa at the moment there are several discussions about "what types of governments will allow effective economic transformation to the economically besieged continent " For me its obvious, Africa needs to stay the course and continue to follow Western style democracies, its the only realistic political option IMO that will allow foreign investment and ensure economic stability. The problem in Africa is not around Western style democracies but the fact that several countries have just not implemented Democracies properly. So people are asking " when are we going to see the results of this Democracy system ", when in fact they should be realizing " you won't get the proper investment we need until we correctly implement systems that will give confidence to investors and stability " You will notice I dropped the word superior

Nonek I doubt many people will believe your assessment of the press. Its far too negative and is the type of speech you would make when you want to pander to people who believe in conspiracy theories

Well that's an amazing endorsement of Denmark, very sincere and interesting. Good post

Let us know your opinion on Grimrock 2, you and I both enjoyed the first one so I'm keen for your feedback

Another factor I'd say is highly important? Weather. Countless studies regarding suicide rates have shown suicide rates spike in the absence of sun. So Obama offers gay rights and weed while Putin offers babies and conservatively dressed women? " So Obama offers gay rights and weed while Putin offers babies and conservatively dressed women" That comment made me laugh because that's exactly the propaganda message its trying to convey

What is the difference between the two links, has it something to do with the website ? I have a moral objection against the website. You wouldn't buy chocolates from ISIS would you? Anyways, someone posted it somewhere else so NVM No I wouldn't buy chocolates from ISIS, you know me well Orog

What is the difference between the two links, has it something to do with the website ?

I agree with you, globally the press has gone to ****, but it gals me when people here hold up the Western press as the beacon of truth and objectivity. There is no such thing as a perfect international News Chanel that is completely 100 % objective all the time around all news stories But that doesn't mean the various news stories or editorials that we can see are all wrong, are aligned with governments or the stories they break can't be corroborated and proven true through multiple sources. So in other words most of the press does a good job at bringing us valid information rather than bringing us misinformation due to some surreptitious agenda So I'm sure what your point is, we know that there are some issues already with all news reporting. And this applies to Western and non-Western channels ?

http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/17/news/un-ebola-funding/index.html Wow, not a very good first effort from the world. The only country that gets a pass from being ashamed is the USA which is independently committing resources to the crisis I'm sure the donations will start coming in

Okay I see your point and its valid Let me ask you a different question, considering all the factors that constitute a government and how that effects the happiness of its citizens what would you say are factors outside of what the government influences that would make its citizens happy? And I know there are several but I'm interested in a scenario where you can say " country x is really happy and its got nothing to do with how the government is run "

Do you dispute the ability of the UN or any similar organisation to ever to be able to produce any kind of accurate reporting about trends and global statistics?

I made myself some Bolognese mince this weekend so I'm having that for lunch with spaghetti. Yummy Also the mince can be frozen nicely and kept for other meals

I don't know too much about these happiness lists, but I remember hearing that they did experiments seeing how people reacted to things like people injuring themselves or dropping their groceries, and if I remember correctly people in South America were more likely to actually go and help them compared to other places. This may be the experiment in question: http://www.fresnostate.edu/kremen/bonnercenter/documents/Kindness.pdf Jaded congrats, I see you guys are number 4. But that's probably because you guys are stoned all the time.....so wouldn't be happy under those circumstances right?

I would say that list is relatively consistent irrespective of who does the survey, do some searches around " happiest citizens in the world " and post the results? You may be right about South American countries but I don't recall them always being in these types of lists

And that's another contentious point for me in African context. Some people are so opposed to the West that they say " we should be looking at China for leadership because there economy is doing so well " My response is something along the lines of " China, really? In China you have a one party state and no trade unions, no real workers rights. In South Africa we give much recognition to workers right ( too much IMO as the trade unions hamper our economic growth but that's another debate ) and the fact we are a Democracy where the constitution governs our country and not even the government is above that, so if you think that somehow we could implement a system of government like the Chinese people are deluded " Because by following the Chinese system of government we might as well tear up our constitution

I respect this post immensely because in the past you have been understandably dismissive of some of Bioware games. But you also can see that Bioware is tying really hard to change that perception and DA:I will be the litmus test around if they have learnt lessons from the past

That's a good link you posted I like the part "And the new paradigm dominates and distorts the debate about Israel and the Palestinians. Israel comes across as the Western white guys, whilst the Arabs and Palestinians are the anti-colonial people of colour. It doesn’t matter what the details of any episode are: history tells us that one side are the ‘good guys’ and the forces of the future while the other side are the forces of the past which need to be swept away" I see this is in the South African context , any comparison to Western countries is immediately dismissed by some. For example sometimes on prominent talk shows debates like "Is Democracy right for Africa " are held. Some commentators say things like " The reason why Africa can't uplift itself is because we are following an un-African way of economic transformation ". So people raise strange questions like " does Democracy work ". I'll then phone in and make points like " yes of course Democracy works, look at the citizens of the happiest countries in the world. They are Western Democracies " This doesn't go down well because people are still thinking of Western countries in the Colonial narrative and can't accept the positive we can learn from the Europeans and Americans

Yes I suppose you right, its the usage of words like superior that is the problem But this is part of my point, is it wrong or politically incorrect to say Western countries have better governments than non-Western governments? If the benchmark is the quality of life and happiness factor then the facts speak for themselves? So why deny something that's true? And that doesn't mean Western governments are perfect

http://www.polygon.com/2014/10/17/6994921/hatred-the-polygon-interview Here is some further information from the developers of Hatred

They certainly aren't beneath examination, such things are fun to examine, and can grant some perspective, but they certainly shouldn't be treated as proof. So let me get this straight, if I ask 10 people in a room ( who all live in the UK ) " are you happy living in the UK " and 8 of those people say " yes " Its not proof or can be accepted that out of those 10 people, the majority of them are happy living in the UK?