BruceVC

That Aurini guy is the most disgusting ****heel I ever listened to on youtube ("we should be absolutely furious with the n***ers... not the blacks, but the f***ing n***ers"; "whites have been working for the past several hundred years to eliminate slavery throughout the globe - and even when we bought the black slaves, we treated them extremely well"; "women in our culture have become the most decadent sluts since the fall of Rome" etc. etc.). The other guy I'm also unfamiliar with. He sounds like someone who should align himself with GG, his perspective will fit in very well there

Now where I have seen these sort of accusations before? They removed it from the poll? Cowards. I know, right? I'd call for freedom of speech and tell them to go F... themselves because I am not remoing any word. No its probably the right thing to do because it may create the wrong impression that feminism is a bad thing And these polls are really based on peoples emotional response, like saying EA was the worst company in the USA..even worse than cigarette companies, so the results don't always paint an accurate picture

How exactly is he pushing a gay agenda, its not like you are confronted by homosexuality all over the game. Its only in Romance and one or two lines of dialogue that allude to it Don't be afraid of gay people Volo, they are just like you and me. They aren't big monsters who are now going to eat you just because there is some attention paid to them in Bioware games

Funny enough I'm about to finish SR4, I am on the last mssion Yes its been very entertaining, I'll give a full review once I'm done

You are missing something fundamental about the strategic business direction that Bioware has now taken and I can understand why you would miss this because you don't seem to follow SJ issues Gaider isn't pushing a homosexual agenda , he is simply including certain minority groups in some gameplay components that previously they wouldn't have been able to identify with I believe Bioware was the first mainstream development company to offer Romance outside of the normal heterosexual type and it was a watershed moment, I truly salute Bioware for taking this risk. 10 years ago this type of implementation may have backfired on them. Its a brave new world of inclusivity but I will say there are definitely extremist elements in the SJ movement. But I distance myself from them

Yes that image is considered racist in South Africa as its likened to the Blackface caricature, I don't agree with it but that's the sentiment amongst many people

Here you make an assumption about what kind of person would wear that clothing. In fairness, those examples are fairly petty, and, like I wrote, I'm too lazy to pour over 200 or so pages of this discussion to look for better, more meaningful examples and reading back through what came before it for proper context. More importantly, my comment was more aimed at SJWs in general and less at you specifically. I certainly didn't make that clear, which is my mistake, apologies for that. I found that funny, hence the snark and the joke, since putting words into people's mouths is the modus operandi of SJWs. To borrow one of anti-GGs terms (it's only fitting), SJWs have weaponized putting words into people's mouths and making assumptions about their intent. So I'm glad you have given me some concrete examples, its important that I respond I have already said I was wrong to suggest he shouldn't have cried in the interview, now we don't need to dwell on a mistake of judgement I made And that cowboy shirt, its definitely a gay themed shirt. I have gay friends and I go to gay clubs. The reason why we know this is not just a normal cowboy shirt is that the guys are buff and not wearing shirts. There is nothing wrong with the shirt but it is not something that most straight men would wear because it sends a certain image. If you disagree with me ask yourself one question ..." would you wear shirt like that " and if not, why wouldn't you wear it? So I go to my original point, what assumptions am I making ? I don't expect you to read all my posts in this thread but my view has been based on real events and has been consistent. Always, people thrive on it

Welcome back, you have been missed

Nonek you are very skilled at theatrics " morally reprehensible" Guess this is another point to add to your list of " why I despise and loath SJW and Feminists " .....

Really? Well, I'm going to have to check that one out at least once. Over the last month, thanks to Netflix, I have become addicted to the CW's Supernatural. the 1st season was so-so then it picked up. Has it's ups and downs but I find it highly entertaining overall, and often funny. Also, the super-hot angel dude doesn't hurt. OMG !!! Where have you been???? You can't just pop back in and not explain the absence, good to have you back

I like how you expertly avoid giving anything resembling an answer to my question. Because you answer a question with a question. "Why is it morally good to judge the clothing on some people and not on others?" No, you aren't making sense. I agree with Alum You make a statement like that without explaining the context or giving an example. And then you get surprised when no one answers

Dude wears fap material at work in office. People tell him it's not appropriate for that office. Scumbags whine "censorship" and declare him a hero. Same people are now calling the women (scientists and non) that objected to the shirt "****" "bitches", inviting them to kill themselves and shut up. Sounds familiar enough? Oh right, why GG is involved? Because they made themselves involved. Oh, are you saying that i am calling the journalist who wrote that vicious article, who happened to be male, a bitch, to kill himself and to shut up? This is because we cannot have nice things. Imbecilles find anything they deem as "problematic" and do everything to do destroy and undermine the human spirit. THAT's the issue. "Fap material". Jesus ****ing Christ Ironically you are undermining Dr Taylor " human spirit" when you are suggesting that the apology from him wasn't his own idea and he was forced to make it by others You still haven't answered my original question. Why is it morally good to question his clothing but not others? Of course he was forced by other people to do it. How emotionally stunted can someone be not to realize that? I thought I did answer that question? Who said we can never question other peoples clothing, you need to be more specific and give me an example ? That's it. I have to follow Trueneutral's advice when you're being so disingenuous. We have nothing more to discuss. I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, I asked you to give me an example about where people are judging only his clothing and not others and you refuse to answer? Okay that's fine

Dude wears fap material at work in office. People tell him it's not appropriate for that office. Scumbags whine "censorship" and declare him a hero. Same people are now calling the women (scientists and non) that objected to the shirt "****" "bitches", inviting them to kill themselves and shut up. Sounds familiar enough? Oh right, why GG is involved? Because they made themselves involved. Oh, are you saying that i am calling the journalist who wrote that vicious article, who happened to be male, a bitch, to kill himself and to shut up? This is because we cannot have nice things. Imbecilles find anything they deem as "problematic" and do everything to do destroy and undermine the human spirit. THAT's the issue. "Fap material". Jesus ****ing Christ Ironically you are undermining Dr Taylor " human spirit" when you are suggesting that the apology from him wasn't his own idea and he was forced to make it by others You still haven't answered my original question. Why is it morally good to question his clothing but not others? Of course he was forced by other people to do it. How emotionally stunted can someone be not to realize that? I thought I did answer that question? Who said we can never question other peoples clothing, you need to be more specific and give me an example ?

Dude wears fap material at work in office. People tell him it's not appropriate for that office. Scumbags whine "censorship" and declare him a hero. Same people are now calling the women (scientists and non) that objected to the shirt "****" "bitches", inviting them to kill themselves and shut up. Sounds familiar enough? Oh right, why GG is involved? Because they made themselves involved. Oh, are you saying that i am calling the journalist who wrote that vicious article, who happened to be male, a bitch, to kill himself and to shut up? This is because we cannot have nice things. Imbecilles find anything they deem as "problematic" and do everything to do destroy and undermine the human spirit. THAT's the issue. "Fap material". Jesus ****ing Christ Ironically you are undermining Dr Taylor " human spirit" when you are suggesting that the apology from him wasn't his own idea and he was forced to make it by others

And I'm sorry, but it probably has pretty little to do with "SJW pressure". I'm pretty sure if he was wearing a tacky T-shirt with pink unicorns instead of one with half-naked women, his superiors also would have had a serious discussion with him about what is appropriate to wear on occasions like this. Yes also if the pressure was from his work it would have been done in a much more professional and official way than the spontaneous way he did apologize during the interview You can see this was something that was obviously bothering and he wanted to say a few words about it

If you feel that harassement and pressure have no impact on a person psyche, then why get up in arms when a women gets harassed? According to you, people can't be pressured/bullied. I think it's you who are looking for a reason that would justify this redicolous "shirtgate" affair. And frankly that offends me. Now apologize. This thread is full of bizarre and unsubstantiated assumptions, no wonder GG lacks meaningful cohesion and results When did I ever say that harassment can't cause people to be bullied or pressured? When did I say that harassment can't be hurtful? My point again is that you cannot assume he apologized because he was pressured from nameless feminists and SJW, he apologized because he felt he had offended people. That's his words, not mine. And these people are not the nameless people on twitter who expressed the initial outrage but rather his work colleagues who he obviously respects Its not hard to understand

So lets be clear on this, you think its impossible that he felt he had offended women he works with and he wanted to set the record straight? You say this cannot be the case? Lets be clear indeed. He's not sexist for any reason you list. He was likely asked to issue an apology so men like you wouldn't get your panties in a twist. When did I ever say he was sexist? I believe I have said several times that I don't believe he meant to offend anyone. But that doesn't change the fact he did offend people You guys really need to stop putting words in peoples mouths and stop making assumptions around what people say Irony Level: Plaid Sure, where did I make assumptions about what people are saying? I have said I disagree that pressure from feminists and SJW made Dr Taylor apologize, this is exactly what you guys are saying is the reason he apologized I have said Dr Taylor made the apology because he felt he offended people, that's exactly what he said in the interview. Where am I making assumptions?

Fair enough, you seem resolute on your stance

Wow. Where to begin? What possible motive could Russia have for shooting down a civilian airline? To manically laugh as they strangle kittens and invite The West to finally get WWIII started? First of all you have quite readily shown your colours by making no distinction between the Separatists and Russia. Secondly, you obviously haven't heard of a little something called "Hanlon's Razor". I like Occams Razor as far as this tragedy is concerned, the plane was indeed shot down mistakenly by the separatists thinking it was a Ukrainian plane. And the military armament was supplied by Russia

So lets be clear on this, you think its impossible that he felt he had offended women he works with and he wanted to set the record straight? You say this cannot be the case? Lets be clear indeed. He's not sexist for any reason you list. He was likely asked to issue an apology so men like you wouldn't get your panties in a twist. When did I ever say he was sexist? I believe I have said several times that I don't believe he meant to offend anyone. But that doesn't change the fact he did offend people You guys really need to stop putting words in peoples mouths and stop making assumptions around what people say

So lets be clear on this, you think its impossible that he felt he had offended women he works with and he wanted to set the record straight? You say this cannot be the case?

You don't see how going from excited over a grand achievement: To breaking down crying: might have a little to do with being dogpiled? Don't get me wrong, its obviously not nice to see a man so excited about this project, even to the point where he had a tattoo made, and then you see him visibly crying in the next video because of a shirt and the image it projected But until we know the real reason for the apology I believe the reason he gave

The man was brought to tears. Over a shirt. Made for him by a friend. On what should have been the highlight of his career. The fact that you are ok with him being harassed and bullied says a lot about your ability to empathize. Of course I emphasize with his personal emotional state? When did I ever suggest I don't care how he feels ? So the original harassment was wrong, but once again that's not the reason why I think he apologized. He felt he didn't want to insult the women he worked with, I don't think he apologized because of the pressure from feminists and SJW. So maybe we should stop looking for reasons that don't exist because they suit the GG agenda? There are more than enough examples of people doing things due to public pressure but this is not one of them?

Always interesting to see what level is operated at in this kind of thing. Amusing that people who aren't in his office would tell him that, really is none of their business. I assume his management is ok with that in his day to day work and the women present are too busy working or are not weak enough to be assaulted by a tacky shirt, else he would not have been wearing it. But naturally, some one is always offended somewhere so that caught up with it. He already got bullied into apologizing though I suppose he didn't grovel enough for some, skimming reactions to it around places. Wasn't even aware GG was involved in this really, mostly came across this as an amusing bit of "feminists" being "outraged" on Twitter and other places you see useless slacktivists like Bruce et al operating. I will say this I am surprised that before the interview no one said to him " dude, are you sure this is the right shirt you want to wear for a interview that the whole world is going to see "?

Ahh yes, the real issue isn't how he was attacked and brought to tears over wearing a shirt crafted by a friend, it's that some people think attacking someone over a shirt is stupid. KP you must realize that Dr Taylor has made a clearly emotional decision and publically apologized, some of us agree with his motives and reasoning and some don't. But we should accept the fact he has made this statement and we should respect this decision. Don't you think this is reasonable ? So what I'm asking is what do you now want from this whole furore ?