BruceVC

If that's an attempt to put us off Romance....it almost succeeded

Yes you are spot on, most people acknowledge that Bioware can improve on that type of Romance implementation

We've made our people aware of better alternatives, which means even when this ends we'll never ever be looking at reviews from the sites we're fighting now, we've gotten a few sites I expect we'd otherwise be fighting to adapt acceptable ethics policies, though we've yet to see if they follow them, and we're bleeding the sites we're fighting of advertisers by showing the advertisers what terrible people they are. We've accomplished part 1 of the 3 things I said we needed to accomplish regarding games journalism, we're well on our way with part two, I haven't seen much work on part 3 yet, but part 3 is the hard part. Okay and just be clear what are the better alternatives when it comes to gaming websites? As you know I use websites like RPS and Gamasutra but if there are other options that offer the same information I would be interested in hearing what they are. ( And of course there are dozens of gaming websites but I am looking for the ones endorsed by GG ) And final point question apart from Intel and Gamasutra what advertising has been pulled from any particular website due to the endeavours of GG?

Sheikh I'm surprised you are asking " why do people like Romance" When someone asks that question I tend to think " well if you are genuinely unsure then you probably won't understand " ....but then I realize..." No of course he will understand, someone just needs to explain it to him" So let me give you my Romance synopsis Romance is part of the interaction aspect with your party members. But it offers more than just getting to know your party members. It gives us a more realistic and immersive aspect to interaction. Romance allows us to build a certain bond with party members in a RP perspective. As I have often said imagine a scenario where you are on this epic quest to save the world from some sort of diabolical entity where everyday could be your last, you have this group of people who are prepared to die for, you face daily tribulations and there is a mutual attraction between yourself and someone else. Now you spend many nights around a campfire reflecting on the days trials..why wouldn't Romance flourish or at least be a consideration ? I maintain this is completely normal and to be expected when it comes to human emotions. That's why I like Romance in RPG, it adds to the realism and depth around the overall RPG experience

I think Sarex's point is that it's higher than their DA:I score which is indeed rather funny because even BioWare grudgingly admitted they had cut corners in DA2 and with DA:I they're supposedly going "all-out". I understand his point but the DA2 review was 3 years ago and wasn't made by the same person as the DA:I review So we can't assume the DA:I review is inaccurate even if its the same website

That does seem a bit high for a DA 2 review

http://www.pcgamer.com/dragon-age-inquisition-review/ Here is a good review...worth reading

Never !!!!! Don't underestimate the indomitable and indefatigable spirit of the promancer !!! We never say die

Very impressive, how much weight have you lost ? I've lost, uh...lost? Replace lost with gained and I might be able to answer your question! That's strange, it sounds like you are eating very healthily....and weight loss is 70-80 % diet?

Very impressive, how much weight have you lost ?

Volo did you ever consider the fact that the only reason you exist is that we allow you to do so? Every story needs a villain Volo..and you just happen to be that villain How else would us SJW go to sleep at night without someone like you to blame for the decay and moral turpitude of the society we live in .....

Says ex CEO of Gawker. Seriously, money raised for charities, raising collective awareness of what the SJW are doing to video games, finally we get something that resembles a discussion about sexism vs freedom of speech. Also, there is no going back, gamers have crossed the Rubicon, there is no way that this ends with gamers going back to reading about how games are misogynistic on Kotaku. Okay that's some relevant developments around GG, I didn't think about those outcomes I'm not sure I agree with them but my question wasn't directed towards myself but rather what supporters of GG think

Is it not possible that the game could be deserving of 8/10? Not all reviews are about some inflated score due to some ulterior motive which I still don't understand

There's a difference between words hurting you, and words making you think "Yeah, **** those guys who said that.". There's a difference between personally not going somewhere because you're unhappy with the code of conduct at the place and getting government to force the place to change. The issue with the games media is that it writes out biased reviews, either filled with sjw bs or corporate bribery, that's it's crowded with arrogant aholes like Leigh Alexander who deserve to be dethroned and left in the mud, that it's floating in corruption and lacks any form of standards, that it has far to much control on which indie titles make their way into the greater public. The gamers are dead articles are an excellent example of arrogant aholes like Leigh Alexander being hypocrites, a great example of collusion, I personally don't feel they're a great example of gamers being harassed though, We're promoting better alternatives to the horrid games journalism sites we're at war with, that should help fix problem A, we're showing advertisers how horrible these people are, that should quicken the fall of the people I want to see fall, I haven't really seen much to better the communication between the indie scene and the regular gamers, but that'll come along eventually I guess. So the whole GG scandal began 3 months ago, what would you say are its biggest achievements so far ? In other words how would you dispute a view that said " GG hasn't accomplished much and never will "

You right, I should have done something. But I don't think it really featured today in the South African media. I am not trying to completely absolve my own negligence around forgetting the significance of today. But if your own media doesn't seem to remember something you are more likely to forget it ?

Well, it's not that they don't matter, but you shouldn't be hurt by it. Additionally, it doesn't really say you should not strike back, either. But as you believe they do matter, aren't these GG people you're referring to correct in your view ? I have always maintained that words on the Internet can be hurtful and create contention So yes you are right, I can understand how people got annoyed by what Leigh Alexander said. The issue though with GG, for me, is that it has evolved to something much more than just people taking exception to what some gaming journalists said.

Come on guys this old view that " words don't matter and you must just ignore them because its the Internet" is so pre-GG its actually hilarious that on this very thread people are making that point and expecting the rest of us to believe it One of the foundations of the creation of GG is about the insult associated with the word "gamers" and the outrage and offense that certain gamers felt. So lets stop suggesting that words are irrelevant because that's not how most of you who support GG have been acting

Holy Smoke !!! I totally forget it was Armistice Day today....my bad

You right, I don't think I could handle another lamergate thread

I completely agree, I see how totally lazy and unmotivated some people are on a daily basis. Why should they now have the same benefits that people who work hard and are productive have?

I don't really have an opinion on 4chan? Its got its good and bad traits like all websites But we absolutely do have freedom of abuse in RL Every company I have ever worked has a code of conduct that explicitly states what is considered unacceptable behaviour and things you can say Below is an example of part of the business ethics of the company I work for that we have to follow Responsibility to Uphold Diversity In order to uphold and sustain a fair and sustainable working environment, you must:- i. Respect the basic human and constitutional rights of all; ii. Treat people fairly regardless of their differences; iii. Provide a working environment free of discrimination; iv. Value different culture and beliefs; and v. Respect communities in which xx is located.

KKK being a conservative organization Abarr is a moron. The KKK were never a 'conservative' organization. It was founded by a bunch of traitors after they lost the civil war. They don't respect traditional American values, nor do they love their country. Imperial Wizard Bradley Jenkins The KKK has wizards! Now I finally get the robes. Maybe they have 'racist a**hole' as a prestige class. They were really more a vigilante group as inititally founded who was dedicated to upholding the "law" of the confederacy in the face of reconstruction than anything else. Vigilante groups have a long history in the US (like the San Francisco Vigilance Movement that was anti-immigration). That said, the branding in 1870 as a terrorist organization is certainly fair in reflection to their status and activities. The Imperial Wizard designation for leaders has been with the group since the original, as have some form of facial coverings to hide identities. I think the robes themselves are more artifacts of the second group, however, and derived from "Birth of a Nation". Hi Amentep " waves " Where have you been ? I was getting worried you were still alive

Well yes, I imagine very few websites would want to attract a raging bigot ? Being "Right Kind " is not an unusual expectation to have of members of a forum. Its not like you are expected to follow all these unreasonable rules in order to engage in debate ?

Like who ? I have had several debates with people on these forums who do believe that white people ( white males ) are discriminated against in modern society. Sometimes they have valid points like Oerwinde and his story about Chinese malls in Canada and sometimes there points aren't so valid. Isn't GG about a perceived discrimination towards " gamers" ...who are targeted selectively because they are white males and there influence they have on the development of games?

There we disagree. Why should we have the same conventions and mode of behavior? Why should be have the same rules on the Internet that exist in RL? Good question There are several reasons but the primary ones are ( this doesn't apply to all websites and forums but most of them) The Internet has become a mainstream way of communication and expression Websites have standards and seek to attract like minded people This means that automatically there have to be rules and codes of conduct that define what that particular website stands for. These exist on almost all websites If for example someone logs on to a website and says something like " I'm a gay gamer and I am interested in this game about feature x or lack of feature y " a completely unacceptable response would be from some members " oh well we don't care about gay people so go to some other website" By allowing this type of discrimination you would be undermining what most websites stand for which is a place where anyone can really discuss a topic without fear of abuse or vitriol A small percentage of people cannot be relied on to adhere to what the principles of most websites stand for, which includes policies of non-discrimination. So you need to enforce rules or some people don't care what they say and the consequences of those words