BruceVC

I'm not sure anyone in this thread believes their punctuation, much less their sentences, at least as far as the topic is concerned...? I try to believe that even a pointless/silly thread can bring up an interesting discussion. But as i said i believe that OP´s point is nonsense I agree, we often use Obys posts as a springboard to have other discussions which I consider much more meaningful

Yeah some of us really enjoy discussing global events. Oh and that reminds me you and I are going to be on the opposite sides of most political debates so please don't take it personally when I disagree with you. Its not personal, its just we have very different views on certain events like Ukraine I can live with that, as long as you get your facts straight True though i take the Ukraine situation on a more personal lvl because i do know people there and have a sort of first person view on what is going on and the rage that this has brought up is new to me, thats the kind of thing where you go "yeah lost any hope in humianty". I am going to respond to your Ukraine point you made, I went back and read your long assessment of the Ukrainian situation I don't agree with much of it but you raise some interesting points. Yes I rely on facts, I can support anything I say through links. Please don't post videos...just links if you want me to read it. And its not that I am being dismissive, I just don't have the time to watch hours of videos and some people like Vals keep posting these hours long videos and expecting people to watch them But I look forward to future debates with you

I don't get it...are you saying these photos represent GG members ? These white male non-diverse neck beards are some of the people claiming GG are all white male non-diverse neck beards. It's a case of projection. Oh thanks Its actually quite funny because they do look a bit consistent

Yeah some of us really enjoy discussing global events. Oh and that reminds me you and I are going to be on the opposite sides of most political debates so please don't take it personally when I disagree with you. Its not personal, its just we have very different views on certain events like Ukraine

I don't get it...are you saying these photos represent GG members ?

Nonek do you actually believe your grandstanding and these sententious soapbox sermons or do you cringe when make posts like this but think to yourself...." I have to be consistent, people expect me to be anachronistic and intransigent " Also can you please stop saying " this is of course just my opinion " after certain posts, it obvious its your opinion. You are making the post. Its certainly not the truth or based on the reality of a situation most of the time. Sorry to criticize but I fail to see the point of why you keep saying that? I hate to see this whole GG event in terms of winning and losing, the GG objective seems so nebulous and aspects of it have such a bad name I fail to see how it will ever progress? It seems more about constant invective and undermining of certain people who support SJ movements and thats fine I'm not attacking that reality ..but lets not see it as " winning " ...that would be like the British saying they " won " after the first day of the Somme

Oh not much. They just made animals that slaughtered thousands of Polish (including some of my family) and Jewish people their national heroes. You are about a year late to the party, I'm afraid. In addition, from what I've seen, you are in the minority in that opinion, as a Pole. Good luck trying to discuss facts with the usual suspects here, though. You'll need it. Year late? Ukrainian parliament act I'm talking ago was passed on 09.04.2015. I'm also not a minority about being against ukrainian nazis. You seem to know as much on the subject as the FBI director when he accused Poland and Hungary on participation in Holocaust last week. I was referring to the year-old debate about the Ukrainian government being neo-Nazi sympathizers. This went right over your head, it seems, though I'm not really surprised. What's truly flabbergasting is that not even with a link to an old thread where those things are discussed at length, you managed to gather as much. Hey, maybe next year. Oh not much. They just made animals that slaughtered thousands of Polish (including some of my family) and Jewish people their national heroes. You are about a year late to the party, I'm afraid. In addition, from what I've seen, you are in the minority in that opinion, as a Pole. Good luck trying to discuss facts with the usual suspects here, though. You'll need it. I was referring to the year-old debate about the Ukrainian government being neo-Nazi sympathizers. This went right over your head, it seems, though I'm not really surprised. What's truly flabbergasting is that not even with a link to an old thread where those things are discussed at length, you managed to gather as much. Hey, maybe next year. Well the view that the Ukrainian government are Neo-nazi's was never taken seriously when you raised it because its just hyperbole...and the reality hasn't changed now so why should we get concerned or feel the need to urgently dispute it ? I'm sure there are some Neo-Nazis in the Ukrainian government ...like there are in many governments. But the suggestion that the Ukrainian government is aligned ideologically with a fascist movement is just preposterous for a number of reasons ..mainly that the Ukraine's primary financial backers happen to be Western countries and they just wouldn't support a Neo-Nazi government ..that should be explanation enough

There..there Sharp_one ..okay I'll take the hint and save you having to keep asking the same question "why do you hate the Ukrainian government, you use to support them.... what did they do now "

I read shady as sexy but then my name is shady and I'm delusional

Thats true, I never judge...oh wait......

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/whalestudio/we-are-the-dwarves I see the KS was cancelled ages ago....but the game is still Steam Greenlit so that should be fine..I assume its legitimate ?

This is hilarious, I really don't know how he manages to go down in my estimation with each post, i'm going to have to start studying quantum states soon. "quantum states " You funny Nonek...I'll give you that

Sure, sure, you mean "inclusive romancing environment". Either that or they have some sort of agenda and that's why they push it even if it seems hacky (Cortez struck me that way). Probably a bit of both at this point, it's become a good marketing point for them and it's not as if the average consumer takes a lot to clap and smile over. You correct about that Malc, I am referring primarily to Bioware contribution around inclusivity for the LGBT community Its important and appreciated work and don't think its easy for them...they receive loads of criticism and sometimes its nothing but homophobia pretending to be "constructive " That's why Bioware is such a remarkable company because they have remained true to there principles around inclusivity at the expense of losing some old fans

Yeah that's been proven time and time again and I'm sure Oby will recognize this The game looks very cool, I like the artwork. I'll support this game on KS

Good question I'll be getting my hardcopy of the game in about 2-3 days at my local PC gaming outlet....then I'll be joining the chaos and bedlam in the world of GTAV

Yeah it does sound like the earlier Ultima games were indeed very progressive for there time Its good that Bioware has taken up the torch of " trying to provide a truly inclusive gaming environment for all "

Can we not forget the past and focus on the future...a future where we endeavor to debate in good faith? Maybe you can start by mentioning these examples where SJ influence has ruined a game for you...you said a "few games ", can you go into more detail about exactly what and how the game was ruined?. There will be no judgment from me so just be honest?

100 % , I acknowledge that my looks can only exacerbate the fear and mistrust ..but its still NOT FAIR !!!

Yeah, that always makes me laugh if people think you are up to something untoward, like following them, and in fact you are not. I suppose we live in a suspicious culture

Surprised no one's taking that bait, really ? If they do come up with something you'll just mark it as irrelevant as, well, you think so. And then when they have nothing the real reason they dislike SJ, which your laughable last question is on, is to lead them to conclude they are anti-social justice as they are bigots or something. All this "social justice" stuff is pretty funny, more than damaging, when it comes to gaming - sure people (not really players) can whine and stamp their feet over anything (PC is the wrong race, orietnation, not enough of $races[x], etc.). Can be a bit annoying when media groups decide to be zealous about it, like RPS - think of their HoTS interview with Grayson going off on over sexy characters. Hm, I guess the real issue is people not gripping the fact that the game's NPCs aren't real, was one thing I was baffled at when Gamespot had a video on a guy feeling guilty for murdering people in GTA V FP. Then I guess all the crap about inequality in game NPCs flows from there. I'll tell you what Malc, I'll make it even simpler. Forget the word "meaningful" Just give me 3 examples where the SJ narrative has negatively impacted your gaming experience So this means when you start to play a game and suddenly find that SJ influence has changed something that you use to consider part of the entertainment factor of the game So lets say for example killing hookers in GTAV was what you really enjoyed and now Rockstar has removed Hookers, this will lead to a change in your entertainment factor in playing GTAV I want to hear examples like this, no judgement I promise. Because I am honestly battling to find any examples that justify this resistance to aspects of the SJ movement within gaming and how it pertains to games ( because surly this discussion is actually about gaming right and how unintended SJ actions are really effecting our games negatively ? )

It's too bad France never got over the English invasion to rediscover the spirit of Toulouse. If they inherit their political culture and institutions from Edward III of England things are gonna be... difficult. Same bull****. Yet mysteriously in correct English. How odd. Shouldn't that have been a copy-pasted picture of Obama riding a turtle or something? Maybe the translation software is just working properly... But I do agree the nature of the accuracy of Oby's English does seem strangely inconsistent...which then adds to the point that Oby can in fact speak English a lot better than he claims. Which then would reveal he is not being honest about his true identity...will this mystery ever be solved I ask you dear forum members ?

"tap something local " ... Isn't Oceanside where you went to that funky bar with your friend and you took some pics? How far is it from where you stay?

Now I am curious, with this "question" as to what answer you are wanting from them ? Points for dismissing things as non-meaningful as, well, you just say so. I am really disappointed, I asked you guys to give me just 3 examples of how the SJ narrative has negatively impacted your gaming experience and guess what..I get one response from Nonek who seemed to have misunderstood the question instead and gave me examples of what GG has achieved ( looking back at my question I can see how it could be misunderstood as I didn't specify "negatively " ) So I'll ask again, " can you give me three meaningful examples of how the SJ agenda has actually negatively impacted your gaming experience "? It can't be that hard, for nearly a year some of you guys have been highlighting various SJ contradictions and efforts to implement changes in the gaming industry. So now I am asking " well what did these changes actually translate to from a gaming perspective " This should be easy? I am interested to see the real substance behind all this anti-SJ vitriol when it comes to how your gaming experience has really changed as I don't see it? So prove me wrong, how have you become marginalized as a white, male gamer? @ Malc The answer will vary and differ from person to person

mmm....difficult to say. Lets start with the basics, have you updated your drivers ? Then I would describe your experience with the community, on Steam or Rockstar, and see if anyone else has similar experiences ?

Nah, don't block anything... you need to be aware of the profoundly iniquitous nature of the Internet