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And yet you took time out of your life to whine about it on a videogame forum. That's not the amazing part. The amazing part is that his feelings on any given subject apparently exist in a state of quantum entanglement with Volourn's and their strength on any given subject is directly inverted with his. Yeah judging a posts relevance based on Volo's view does seem strange and will lead to frustration

Well as much as we all really appreciate your insight into this matter you are misunderstanding something fundamental about this debate GG is just the symbol...consider it a metaphorical battleground , this is about the perception and resistance to SJ changes from certain people. Its an unnecessary battle I keep telling my debating foes. Most of the outrage is exaggerated and unnecessary and is more about the fact people are tired of being told what is acceptable in this game or what is offensive Volo is intransigent. He refuses to even attempt to have a rational debate ...but he is entertaining

You're dodging the question. Would you accept an Alien movie with Ripley assigned to a lesser role and played by a much weaker actress than the main male lead? Hardy is nowhere near the same weight class as Theron. How am I dodging the question? I said yes, I would have no issue with a strong male lead in an Alien film. I will judge it by its individual merit. You can already argue that the guy that played the android was a much stronger lead than the female in the newest Alien movie. Although, once again, Charlize Theron was there dominating. (if only she knew how to run sideways!) The crazy thing is Sigourney Weaver can still play a kick butt character, while Mel Gibson is pretty much past that. It's all about the strength of the actor, I don't care what their gender is. Why do you guys make such a big deal of it? Except, once again, you're dodging the question. Prometheus was not an Alien movie. It was an Alternate Universe take on the xenomorphs. There was no Ellen Ripley. So, would you accept an Alien movie in which the script has a perfectly healthy Ellen Ripley relegated to the side stage but present for the majority of the movie and played by a much weaker actress than the actor playing the lead as a proper Alien movie? In case it's unclear, I'd call bull**** on that one too, and be much more upset about it since the Alien movies resonate a lot more with me than the MM movies. Are you sure you are not over analyzing this whole thing because you have become very defensive and unnecessarily sensitive to any changes to things in your life that you are familiar with because of a few changes that SJW really do implement? So you see SJ negative influence everywhere? There are a few people on this forum who already see things like this so it wouldn't be absurd if you having this misperception ?

Not only Muslim, but Christians and anything that can be called religion. That is the basis of DA lore God is bad, He created the world, some dudes get into His city, He is teribly mad, cursing them all, and they turn into ugly monsters that rape women and kill everyone spreading the Blight. God don't care anymore about the world and leave, it is just religious people still want to call Him back to return. No God don't care, He let demons do as they wish and the Blight and everything else to destroy the world. He even send his children the Spirit of Justice to possess a man to blow up His own church. Later a guy/girl have some magic thing on his/her hand, can close the gate to hell, everyone believe he/she is a prophet, a messiah, turn out to be not, he/she just accidntally getting that thing while accidentally getting involved in something he/she shouldn't. So what people believe is false. Religion is just something people want to believe in. And so Mythal, the God of the Elves, turn out to be not a God at all, just a crazy old woman who get possessed by demon. But Elves believe in a God name d Mythal. So what Elves believe in is false and wrong. Religion is just made up of things through time and people believe in. Templars oppressing Mages by what they believe in, their religion say so or it is what they believe about their religion And Qunari...well... And so LGBT stuff... And....and....and...conclusion is religion is bad. I think its good sometimes to get a different perspective about what we believe. So even if what you are saying is true about the motives of the creation of DA, which I doubt, its not like its going to change your faith so why does it bother you if they push a certain agenda? Also you do realize that there are many people who do think religion causes more harm than good? So its not like this is a unheard of perspective ?

Its still funny Doesn't matter. it's wrong. Propagating lies especially under the veil of truth should never be something that you promote in any way shape or form. Wow..okay lets get pedantic I didn't know it was false when I made the post, I now know so I won't propagate it but I still find it funny. Is that statement acceptable ? It's pretty easy to figure out it's false if you know anything about MacArthur during the Post WW2 Japan years, or the simple usage of words then as compared to now. Calax you do realize not everyone knows the story of MacArthur or his personality ? And even less people would know the difference between a fake telegram it was said he created and a real one ? So I'm not sure what your point is ?

LMAO @ at your butthurt tears that a game you don't like might be good. Yeah Volo probably loved the game but because he has been criticizing it for ages now he has to pretend its not good....sorry Volo but you created the situation for yourself

I am going to guess, and its probably wrong, and say you don't like the Dragon Age series?

Considering those were the major points he was making regarding female characters in AC, on what points did you actually agree with him? I don't think any company should be insincere in its marketing or implementation around things like gender equality. But in this case I believe Ubisoft is being sincere and he doesn't

Oh yes I noticed your sig, well played I am surprised more people aren't emulating my wise words and using them in sigs

Sounds good, the asparagus will cook very quick..2-3 minutes I reckon ?

This is the part where I don't agree with the article. He can't say that this was malicious marketing because why wouldn't Ubisoft let people know, this is big news and also what is wrong with them announcing a female character after all the criticism they have received. I don't really care why they are announcing it the point being there is a female playable character, that is what people have been expecting Also what is wrong with the idea of marketing? When did the concept of making your company look progressive become a bad thing? Its only an issue if the marketing is based on a false image and in this case its not because there is a female character, so whats the issue ?

So... They're harassing a game company for posting that they've made a female playable character in this particular game after that particular game series had been yelled at for NOT having those characters before. Sucks to be Ubisoft. No that's not the criticism, I suggest you read the article again to understand the point He is objecting to the fact Ubisoft is using a playable female character as part of the marketing campaign...its like saying " hey everybody ...look we have a female character " The inclusion a of female character should be more natural to make it sincere To quote from the article "'Its s an affectation. If you're using women characters so nakedly as marketing material, I can't possibly believe that you actually care about them " He makes some points I agree with and some I don't

Its still funny Doesn't matter. it's wrong. Propagating lies especially under the veil of truth should never be something that you promote in any way shape or form. Wow..okay lets get pedantic I didn't know it was false when I made the post, I now know so I won't propagate it but I still find it funny. Is that statement acceptable ?

Okay it is looking better, I tell you what. If people on this thread who backed the original game also commit to this KS then I will also pledge additional funds. Nothing hectic, $25 or so

I am waiting for real time Romance AI in the game ....I'm still waiting

Yeah I also remember Fox running this appalling story that DA:O "was an obscene game because it had dirty and hidden gay sex in it "

Yeah I hear that from several people I know where smoking weed makes them feel either paranoid, stupid or depressed. So they just wont do it But I think this is to do with the quality of weed a persons smokes, cheap weed can make you feel like that. I only suffer from feeling stupid at times when I'm stoned...but that's part of the fun. My natural personality is where I tend to think about many things all at once and sometimes this can be a little disruptive. So focusing and thinking about one thing, like a TV series or funny movie, is a nice break for me

Its still funny

I think you guys will appreciate this, my step-mom sent this to me. Its a old discusison from the 1940's about the definition of political correctness The term "political correctness" was not in my vocabulary. My curiosity got the best of me and I decided to do a little research and after two weeks of chasing fruitless leads, I found what I'd been looking for at the Truman Library & Museum in Independence, Missouri. An unnamed source there sent me copies of four telegrams that were exchanged between Harry Truman and Douglas MacArthur on the day before the actual signing of the Japanese Surrender Agreement. The contents of those four telegrams below are exactly as received, not a word has been added or deleted. (1) Tokyo,Japan 0800-September 1,1945 To: President Harry S Truman From: General D A MacArthur Tomorrow we meet with those yellow bellied bastards and sign the Surrender Documents, any last minute instructions? (2) Washington, D C 1300-September 1, 1945 To: D A MacArthur From: H S Truman Congratulations, job well done, but you must tone down your obvious dislike of the Japanese when discussing the terms of the surrender with the press,because some of your remarks are fundamentally not politically correct! (3) Tokyo, Japan 1630-September 1, 1945 To: H S Truman From: D A MacArthur and C H Nimitz Wilco Sir, but both Chester and I are somewhat confused, exactly what does the term politically correct mean? (4) Washington, D C 2120-September 1, 1945 To: D A MacArthur/C H Nimitz From: H S Truman Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of **** by the clean end!

It sounds like the type of midnight food raiding I do when I have the munchies

I hope its Triss A bit sad really. That we can think of no better endorsement than that Pologon thinks it's sexist. It might even be sexist, but we're all going to buy it because Polygon are tossers. I hope its Triss A bit sad really. That we can think of no better endorsement than that Pologon thinks it's sexist. It might even be sexist, but we're all going to buy it because Polygon are tossers. Good old CDPR, despite other development studios being more conservative we know we can rely on them for a bit of visibility for the female form

You inferred that we were not honest in our goals of ethical reforms and merely opposing those whom lie and say they support social justice like you, it is written above in plain English, and the inference is clear. Nope another epic fail Nonek but this time on interpretation I simply asked a question within a question. Nothing deceitful about that. Maybe someone can comment and say if they think my post was deceitful?

Just to be clear what exactly did I try to deceive you on?

Probably because it became a 'thing' to do in the game, my friends who don't even play GTA always mention that when I speak of playing it. Also because you can - people are going to kill something if they are able to in games, after all I don't kill people randomly. I kill people who really annoy me but generally I stay away from killing civilians as it draws the police

Ah so no answer again, even when I honestly and explicitly answered your question, I expected as much. As for questions of etiquette, you infer that we are lying in our honest and reaonable goals of asking for ethical reform, and that we are instead only acting against social justice. Hardly a polite or normal thing to do, and it was you whom raised the issue of your use of sex workers. I will answer your two statements with three of my own: I have no interest in your need to visit strip clubs to interact with women, that is your own decision and none of my business. Your use of prostitutes is also your own business, and the authorities if they discover it of course, as well the women you are having to force yourself upon. However while abusing sex workers like this I will not accept that you are interested in SJ issues, as that is a hypocritical lie. As for understanding my points i'm afraid that if you cannot understand the intentionally plain English that I use then there is no hope that I can get through to you, perhaps some further education as i've suggested before is in order or a doctors appointment. You are very defensive so you and others, like Volo, tend to read a negative undertone into simple questions. I didn't ever say you were lying. I can only assume you are so defensive because of the perceived criticism you feel you are under for supporting GG so a simple question you feel is an interrogation I have to take some blame for that because of the level of some of our past debates And there is no need for me to answer the question because its so absurd..how can you ask me " why do I hate women " ? No when you make a clear inference of deception I call you out on it, that is not being defensive but truthful. I proudly and honestly admit to being a part of Gamergate, a consumer revolt is a fine and ethical thing, which there should be more of. No I expected no answer, that might require some self examination and hard answers which a hypocrite and a liar isn't capable of. No once again you are basing your argument on a false premise, I was asking a question not being deceptive. Epic fail on that part Nonek Yes I did acknowledge the boycotting of websites is a consumer revolt And then once again you can't resist the personal insults...another fine example of mature debating etiquette