BruceVC

The most valid and real concern is the state of Chinese markets..,..while we were all lamenting the state of Greece last month the Chinese had 4 Trillion dollars wiped off there stock market And there solution was artificial and direct intervention to prevent a stock market crash, not only did the Chinese buy here own shares they forced the various state influenced Chinese investment firms to also buy billions of shares to prevent a free flow collapse of there stock market Obviously this is not how free markets behave as if people are confidant in a market they won't sell but the Chinese do have the capital and aptitude to intervene But this doesn't fix the underlying problem...a real lack of confidence in the Chinese markets for a variety of reasons and this leads to mass selling We dont want China to be negatively impacted because this will effect the whole world and emerging markets, like South Africa, always get hit the hardest when these types economic fluctuations occur...and I'm worried, very worried

But....but .....the voices in my head are always nice to me, please don't deny me the inkling of support my voices give me...imagine how lonely I would be Thanks for the link but I don't support anything luzarius says or posts, I try to be a reasonable person but I really am not prepared to engage with someone who is a bigot and pretends to be " interested in discussing real issues and concerns " yet just uses his posts to make covert attacks on the LGBT community

Sure, I hear you. I am not saying people must be positive for positive sake....I find that kind of blanket expectation a little annoying and counterproductive I am saying lets judge Fallout 4 on its own criteria and merit. And I'm sure there are real and valid concerns but you shouldn't compare this game to older Fallouts...because then you will definitely be disappointed Hope it makes sense what I am trying to say ?

You must buy the expansion.,...I have heard from a VERY reliable source that there may be Romance in the expansion...you don't need any other reason except for that

Bruce i like how you have so corrupted view of world So you are telling us that we know there are great games but we should overlook how much crappy 'RPG' element in F3 was and enjoy bellow medicore shooter it become because??? Its like saying: Yeah I have know really nice girl few year back and she was great, but today some older dude will do, you know you have to enjoy the difference..... Very good analogy about the girl ...rather see it as you use to date hot porn star who fulfilled your dreams Now you are dating a really nice girl who is not a porn star but you can still have lots of fun and have a meaningful relationship...but she is NOT a porn star And its unfair to compare her to the porn star....you see my point ?

Ehh I love all Bethesda's games for one reason or another, it's just good to have a moan about the things you keep wishing they'd do Yeah I know how much you love Bethesda games, you have clocked more hours on Skyrim than most ( how much time now? ) I admire your commitment to there games, my point is more to people who are already saying " Fallout 4 sounds like it is going to be terrible game " Somewhere between 800-1000 hours, similar for Oblivion and Fallout 3...too much Yeah there's some prejudging going on. I think if you hated their previous games you're probably gonna hate their new games. Yeah, I think I'm overly critical of Bethesda. Really trying to cut them some slack and be a bit more positive. ...it looks good! There, I said it. Don't you feel better You see I believe I do understand where most of the criticism comes from towards Bethesda. Its a common Internet perspective on gaming forums where you have people, like this one, that have been playing RPG for years and sometimes decades and there intention is not to really verbally attack a gaming company based on maliciousness and vitriol,its more based on frustration and the perception of how a gaming company has fallen from its original level of delivering entertainment. And we all remember the early days of gaming ( Wizardy, M&M, Morrowind, BG1 etc )as it profoundly effected all of us and in certain ways shaped who we have become around our Internet identity .,,,and of course thats important and needs to be accepted as something that is worth understanding and recognizing. And most of you have played Fallout 1 &2 which set almost a new bar in RPG complexity and real choices. They were truly immersive and unique games that can only be seen as...brilliant....genius...inspired...compelling ...and the most important thing, absolutely entertaining. So you would naturally compare the new games to the older ones ....and you will find them lacking if you try to compare them on a feature or complexity basis. So really its unfair to do that to your yourself ...you will set yourself for disappointment and the ironic thing is this an unintentional feeling by you probably thinking you are giving objective critique You need to see the new Fallout games on there own and just enjoy the open world, interesting narrative and cool people you meet. No comparison to older games goes a long way to helping a person see they are brilliant in there own way

Yep pretty much this. Actually it already started Geez...you guys seriously. Such drama queens Yes we now have to worry about the forces of oppression in RL as there are expectations on games being more progressive. Its like you guys think this is some sort of symbolic representation of society...guys its just gaming. As important as you may think this is it does not represent a new draconian and surreptitious system that is going to influence how our governments conduct themselves. So lets try to keep the hyperbole to a minimum plz In a world where all social interaction has moved into social media and effectively, the 'net; hosted by cloud services doing massive data-mining where every kind of demographic can be carefully measured with individual metrics, which in turn can be sold to government agencies, think-tanks and eventual political candidates for focus-group testing for the next election. Also remember that the intelligentia and powers that be have a vested interest in the freudian ideas that the masses have to be contained by catering to their base needs, both through commercial products and by lofty temporary and emotional outburts in politics, thus keeping the general populance docile (thankfully this process is still only reactive). So how can you still say this despite gaming is the biggest medium out there? So far, you are just giving more fuel to the people who believe in this: Your post does raise some interesting ideas, I recognize that. But I'm not sure what Doom has to do with your point about the overall negative impact of social media or rather how social media can be used a tool of manipulation, I agree it can. I have seen this in South Africa

Look at you, now I can't construct a sentence in plain English. Lets really try insult people in some really irrelevant and childish way. And when did I exactly say people can't comprehend English? If you are going to use the Barti example I was teasing him...as in not being serious. But I tell you what TN...just make blanket assumptions about me and my motives. Thats much easier than asking me I'm funny hey Barti....admit it I make you laugh

Oh I can't max the graphic settings, there are some advanced graphic setting options that make my card go over the 4GB memory But it still looks good

Dexter is amazing.,.,,,it had a cult following over here. I had assumed everyone in the USA had seen it but I forget all the cable offerings you have In South Africa our primary cable network buys all the best shows from across companies like AMC, Showcase and HBO so we end of watching not as many as you do but generally the best ones

Ehh I love all Bethesda's games for one reason or another, it's just good to have a moan about the things you keep wishing they'd do Yeah I know how much you love Bethesda games, you have clocked more hours on Skyrim than most ( how much time now? ) I admire your commitment to there games, my point is more to people who are already saying " Fallout 4 sounds like it is going to be terrible game "

I (The PC can beat the hell out of anyone, and buy back their reputation by giving away bottles of water; even to the victim.) This comment really made me laugh because its sounds so absurd yet its true But you can't judge Bethesda games on that type of accuracy in AI or be too critical. If you do you will find loads of those types of idiosyncratic parts of the game and general NPC behavior...and you right it is silly . But I rather focus on the positive of there games

100 %, yes I know what you saying. You aren't criticizing the entertainment factors of the new Fallout games, you do enjoy them You are saying you cannot compare them on various levels to the older Fallout games. You would love an older Fallout style game but you are realistic...its highly unlikely we will see this. But you are still excited about Fallout 4

Wow...okay the levels of positivity on this thread is overwhelming ...go Fallout 4 I'm super excited about this game, Bethesda has a great way of creating gaming worlds. They have these large sandbox environments where you can truly progress as you want in most cases yet they allow Mods to fix things that you don't like And I always use Mods..but I don't judge Bethesda for that. I don't believe the unfair criticism " Bethesda needs to use Modders to make there games either enjoyable or entertaining " No for many of the millions of fans who either use consoles or play the PC version of any Bethesda game, they just play the normal vanilla version of the game without Mods and they love the games. I have 3-4 good friends who only started gaming a few years ago and they love Bethesda games yet have never used Mods. Most people on these forums are more experienced gamers who have a much more discerning or critical expectation for games ....so Mods are a must in Bethesda game to improve the gaming experience And finally how can I not be extra excited about Fallout 4....you guys have seen Malc's post...12 companions to Romance !!! Here is the link for those who missed it http://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4-companions/

Yes I thought you were joking but I hate to assume. Sometimes people make statements that I think can't be real...but they are But for the record I think you are misunderstanding the plight of African albinos. They don't get mistreated all the time, most of the time how they were previously treated gives them understandable sympathy and different preferential treatment in the job market as they are seen as a minority even within black South African culture So I am not saying albino Africans get used for body parts and cut up all the time ...that is rare but does happen. So my point about there " MORE " privilege has nothing to do with them getting cut up but just how African society sees them

Yep pretty much this. Actually it already started Geez...you guys seriously. Such drama queens Yes we now have to worry about the forces of oppression in RL as there are expectations on games being more progressive. Its like you guys think this is some sort of symbolic representation of society...guys its just gaming. As important as you may think this is it does not represent a new draconian and surreptitious system that is going to influence how our governments conduct themselves. So lets try to keep the hyperbole to a minimum plz

Um, are you really trying to have a serious discussion about how black Albinos are related to how I defined " white privilege " in this thread? Because the last few comments have just been jokes about the concept of what white privilege means....and that's fine as I have no issue with people making light of serious discussions. Sometimes that's the nature of internet debate So are you really asking if black albinos are part of white privilege ?

I would say more but not for the reasons you are joking about In Africa albinos have typically been a target historically by other Africans as they are seen as bewitched and there body parts are useful in "muti " ( African magic like Witch doctors ) This is obviously illegal and gets condemned but still happens in rural areas where people are still superstitious. So we should be extra sensitive when it comes to the treatment of albinos in the African context at least

I used to think I was white but now I'm apparently Hispanic. Is there a support group for people that have lost their white privilege? Well if its any consolation I think Hispanic people have some of the most beautiful women in the world

that giraffe pic made me laugh But to answer your question, you mustn't see this whole thing in absolutes..there are grey areas So in this case the ideal design for a game like Deliverance would be a predominantly white character world but you should see some African\black characters and can interact with them so they have some identity This would seem like the most accurate and most reasonable portrayal of the era where there were African people but they were rare....I can't see how this would really dilute the aspired "authentic " vision of the game? How many times people originating from those regions need to remind filthy and ignorant colonials that THERE WERE NO FRIGGING BLACK AFRICANS IN BOHEMIA and FURTHER NORTH... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallus_Anonymus - this guy was on courts, among nobles and also flirting with church hierarchy in regions from Hungary, through Czech kingdom and Kingdom of Poland... That guy did not report a SINGLE appearance of a black/African person in those regions, and I am pretty sure he would, as it would be something noteworthy... Stop forcing modern political agendas on people whose culture was shackled and not represented in any mass form to this day... in fact people from central and eastern Europe are very often mobbed and ridiculed in other countries, including UK, US, Germany, etc. yet, it is ok to do that to them, after all they "are white" so what that they got hit hardest by two world wars, so what that they had to endure the political trade and giving them to Stalin's zone of influence, to appease the Communists after WW2... yeah, no let the same people who betrayed their own values multiple times, school them about their own history... It's as ignorant as thinking that suddenly the modern Western style of democracy and tolerance will be glorified and followed in Middle East and North African countries.... You seem mad? Why you mad? I'm not sure you right about there being no black people in that area of Europe ...I thought there was evidence in frescoes and paintings from that time that were black people? Yes I agree, nowadays East Europeans are vilified unfairly in many countries. In the UK for example there is definitely exaggeration about how Bulgarians, Poles and Romanians are "taking jobs from hard working UK people" ...but I condemn this. So lets not justify one social wrong with another...that is unhelpful

that giraffe pic made me laugh But to answer your question, you mustn't see this whole thing in absolutes..there are grey areas So in this case the ideal design for a game like Deliverance would be a predominantly white character world but you should see some African\black characters and can interact with them so they have some identity This would seem like the most accurate and most reasonable portrayal of the era where there were African people but they were rare....I can't see how this would really dilute the aspired "authentic " vision of the game?

There are very few countries that still hunt whales as it is seen as unnecessary and cruel. Human beings have more of a connection to whales as they are mammals and are seen as much more intelligent and having more sentience than lets say Tuna which is why people condemn whaling more than fishing. Its the same for the killing of dolphins The practice of hunting whales needs to be condemned, its just not something I am active in

http://www.walkthetalk.co.za/ Tomorrow I am doing "Walk the Talk " which is a well supported event where you go on a walk to support various charities or SJ causes that you feel South Africa grapples with I'm doing the 15 km walk so I need be up at 5 am. Its actually better than providing a link to support your view...you commit to doing this walk in RL which then in turn raises visibility

Everything that isn't supporting BruceVC views is unreasonable criticism or racism or whatever. It doesn't matter how intelligently or how much based in facts an opinion is laid BruceVC will handwave it away. No if I'm wrong I admit it but people must use facts...which puts you at a serious disadvantage

No, I am not saying "Support your point of view with facts" is unreasonable criticism Of course you need facts in a debate and I can happily provide them in all debates I have When I say " unreasonable criticism" I mean where people nitpick or use spurious logic like " you can't say you care about womens right because you go to strip clubs "