BruceVC

You funny Volo I was hoping you would make this easy and just agree but there has been extensive research done that confirms what I am saying. I can post the link if you doubt this but then I would be PROVING I'm right and you know how I hate being right

Volo I have to agree with Hurlshot on this one and you know the rule....when two completely unaffiliated SJW agree on something it has to be correct

Volo....don't you think its weird you play a female character...thats not normal

I live in JHB which is considered the economic hub of the whole continent....its like the NY of Africa Anyway its an amazing, fast paced, vibrant, cosmopolitan melting pot. You can achieve real economic success in JHB but like all big cities it can be a terrible place if you don't have money or you exist in the periphery. JHB has been very good to me even though it obviously doesn't have the quality of life of living by the coast like most of my family When I moved to JHB 15 years there was this club called Truth, its still open and offers the best nightlife experience on the continent. It used the location of an old Snake Park so apart from the fact it has 4 dance floors it has all these pools and windy stone pathways.....anyway we going tonight, its going to be epic

Maybe he thinks it falls under this one: "Spam: Posting frequent, annoying, and/or nonsensical posts are is (editor's note: use proper English, guys!) not tolerated in these forums." Alternatively, he could consider it just rude and unconstructive for the conversation if people are talking about one subject and then somebody butts in and deliberately tries to draw the discussion to something else unrelated to what is currently being discussed. As TrueNeutral said, how organic the discussion actually is plays into whether or not it's O.K...and when somebody pointedly ignores what people are already nicely and respectfully discussing and instead opts to bring up something completely unrelated for seemingly little rhyme or reason, well I can understand the annoyance. If you treated people with (intellectual) respect yourself, I wouldn't feel the need to call you out on your behavior all the time and therefore we wouldn't be having these problems to begin with! Not that that's actually an excuse for my own rule-breaking...I will agree with on one thing you mentioned from the last "mass of ad hominem", as TrueNeutral so eloquently put it...it's utterly ridiculous the things we can get away with calling each other. Well...whatever: it is what it is. It's a shame that we can't discuss this further, BruceNazi, but it seems like our resident Nazi moderators have Nazi-ed their way into our perfectly Nazi discussion, making it likely that we will not see (or...Nazi, if you will!) a proper Nazi resolution...or dare I say, solution? ...to this Nazi discussion we're having. And...well, it's like they say: if it ain't Nazi, you will...Nazi* me there! Ha ha ha! But on a more Nazi...er...serious note, EVIL NAZI SJWs! ...Uh, excuse me...what I meant to say was BIGOTED EVIL FASCISTS! Er, that is...EVIL SEXIST SJF NAZIS! Um...really, what I'm trying to get across here is... *Yes, I know I already did this joke a sentence earlier. Also, I am pretty sure "they" don't actually say that. But seriously, why can we go around calling each other Nazis and nobody bats an eye? It doesn't even make any sense! Okay thanks for explaining, I get what you saying Whats your definition of someone not treating you intellectually because this can vary from person to person? I much rather prefer people saying " this annoys me about you or I find it rude what you said " than I have to guess...thats never my strong point because of how this becomes subjective

Okay just in the interest of clarity I was obviously joking about you guys derailing the thread, I am constantly doing that, in fact we all do it to a certain degree. I assumed you guys knew I was joking...I thought you guys would have realized " BruceVC isn't even active on this thread and why should we care what he says " ( and I dont mean that in a nasty way ) But I think you think I was being serious, I apologize for the misunderstanding. But this does raise something interesting, you do not get my logic or sense of humor and that leads to misinterpretations between us. This is obviously also a disappointment for me as I feel I have failed in some way to get you to chat to me, I have always liked you so of course I care if you don't really chat to me So for example this is how I see this Off Topic section and please disagree with me afterwards. There are about 40 or so regulars that logon on almost every day and we engage in certain debates, but in the 3 years I have been active on these forums its basically been more or less the same people on Off Topic and I really have never noticed any real tension or members that need you Mods to get involved with But I see this section as a place where we all know each other, its very familiar to me. So why would I ever feel the need to call a Mod to reprimand someone. In this section we all speak our minds to each other and its seems to work? The reason I am asking you this is because I'm not sure if you are being serious when you mentioned " I should call a Mod to report someone ". For me after all these years and all these debates don't you think that would be really ...weird? And please don't misunderstand the nature of this post, I am not in any way criticizing you as a Mod. I have no issue with what you said but this possibly highlights a real misunderstanding between you and I on a personal level..and that disappoints me You need to use blue text. Wow, okay maybe you right Did you also think I was being serious...please tell me you realized I was joking?

Okay just in the interest of clarity I was obviously joking about you guys derailing the thread, I am constantly doing that, in fact we all do it to a certain degree. I assumed you guys knew I was joking...I thought you guys would have realized " BruceVC isn't even active on this thread and why should we care what he says " ( and I dont mean that in a nasty way ) But I think you think I was being serious, I apologize for the misunderstanding. But this does raise something interesting, you do not get my logic or sense of humor and that leads to misinterpretations between us. This is obviously also a disappointment for me as I feel I have failed in some way to get you to chat to me, I have always liked you so of course I care if you don't really chat to me So for example this is how I see this Off Topic section and please disagree with me afterwards. There are about 40 or so regulars that logon on almost every day and we engage in certain debates, but in the 3 years I have been active on these forums its basically been more or less the same people on Off Topic and I really have never noticed any real tension or members that need you Mods to get involved with But I see this section as a place where we all know each other, its very familiar to me. So why would I ever feel the need to call a Mod to reprimand someone. In this section we all speak our minds to each other and its seems to work? The reason I am asking you this is because I'm not sure if you are being serious when you mentioned " I should call a Mod to report someone ". For me after all these years and all these debates don't you think that would be really ...weird? And please don't misunderstand the nature of this post, I am not in any way criticizing you as a Mod. I have no issue with what you said but this possibly highlights a real misunderstanding between you and I on a personal level..and that disappoints me

Actually, there isn't anything in the forum rules that says anything about having to stay on topic. There is this one, though: "Harassment: We ask that the users of this board treat one another with respect, even when opinions differ. Personal attacks that are intended to cause unwanted attention, embarrassment, or harm will not be tolerated." ...but who am I kidding? The "stay on topic" rule, which doesn't even exist in the actual rules, is enforced more often here than the one I just quoted. Barti you funny, you quite cheeky. I am surprised that that there is no rule that I have mentioned, I have never read the rules but I been told several times by people like Keyrock " I'm hijacking the thread " ...so I guess I just assumed there was But Barti you do realize how lucky you are, that rule "We ask that the users of this board treat one another with respect, even when opinions differ. Personal attacks that are intended to cause unwanted attention, embarrassment, or harm will not be tolerated" is something you are in regular infringement of ...think of all the times you have called me condescending or just been rude yet I have never reported you to the Mods...and you know why, 3 main reasons I have never reported anyone to any moderator in my life because I refuse to accept that anyone on a forum can annoy or offend me that much I feel I have let you down, I wanted to be a good influence for you and for you to basically agree with my views on things like SJ. I don't mean in an arrogant way suggesting your views aren't valid but I always wanted the younger members on this forum to naturally see me as someone they really agreed with....for example there are several people on these forums who are older than me and I respect ..and thats a nice thing. But if I take you and KP I clearly have failed in impressing you, I'm much more convincing and likable in RL Also I have in the past been condescending to you and even though I was unaware of it I clearly need to work on my forum etiquette. So can I blame you for not chatting to me anymore ?

Sorry, I'm not a figurine in your dollhouse where you have your imaginary tea-parties. Fair enough, I did assume you were involved in this flagrant disregard of the forum rules because you are generally quite recalcitrant and seem to have an issues with rules and societal expectations

But do you think the new movies wont have that type of look for female characters? I havent been following any news about it

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/world/middleeast/egypt.html?_r=0 Yeah I was just about to post the same thing about the Russians cancelling flights to Egypt because of its significance So in the beginning both the Russians and Egyptians were almost dismissive about the suggestion that this plane was brought down by ISIS...I can understand Putins view, he was understandably hoping he could intervene in Syria without any real Russian casualties. But what people don't seem to be aware of is over the last 10 years certain Western countries have devised very effective information gathering techniques around the activities of many of these Islamic groups So when the UK and USA initially mentioned they believed the plane was destroyed by ISIS it wasn't because they wanted to undermine Russia by exaggerating there body count because of there new role in Syria..no it was said because they had information I feel sorry for Putin because he also would have assumed he could rely on the Egyptian security measures at the airport because obviously the current Egyptian government is involved in its own war with ISIS. But sadly this Russian tragedy is really just a reminder that there is little chance that fighting ISIS won't result in real civilian loss. Thats what the West has had to deal with 14 years Of course what makes this more sad is the victims, basically Russian holiday makers and 25 children....I was watching a documentary on them and you see this little Russian child standing at the airport. They would have been told by Russian authorities " its fine to go on holiday to Egypt " because Putin wouldn't have wanted the average Russian citizen to think that there involvement in Syria would mean significant changes to there lifestyles .... Well that's now over and the Russians have had there baptism of fire in the ME......

Yeah, that outfit was hot...I had a crush on that outfit when I first saw it

@ Meshugger and TN others like Keyrock Guys please this thread is about SJ developments in the gaming industry and perceived actions by gaming websites Its NOT a thread about Star Wars movies, please stop hijacking the thread or I will have to report you guys to the Mods....we need to maintain standards and stick to the forum etiquette

Why not? If you are a huge fan, I'll definitely buy the game but only 2-3 months after release...I'm very excited I love that whole post-apocalyptic world.....then you add some Mods and the obligatory Adult Mods and you have 120 hours + of great entertainment presented to you

That's true of most people; the idea is to answer based on what would be the "most common" action/reaction/feeling. Okay...let me try that, I'm sure there was another issue I had but I'll let you know about it when I encounter it

I find these exercises a little inaccurate because some of the questions are difficult for me to answer because my mood and views can represent both sides of the agree and disagree ....

Orog what you going through is not uncommon and can happen to anyone at anytime ...sometimes something sets it off, like the failure of a particular task but end of the day the result is same. We start questioning or accepting certain limitations that are part of our lives and this can be a little depressing as we see this as a failure instead of a lesson So look at some realistic objectives and also spend time around people less fortunate than yourself, thats always a good way to realize things could be worse

Its looks....entertaining, a FPS movie

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/04/africa/russian-plane-crash-egypt-sinai/index.html There is no need to consider conspiracy theories, the Russians are actively involved in combating ISIS. This is the reality of fighting extremism in the modern age.... suicide bomb blasts, planes being targeted, pointless killings of innocents. Its a bit naive to think that Russia could become involved in fighting ISIS and this type of event wouldn't occur. The West has been dealing with this since 9\11.... I'm not saying is ISIS is irrefutably responsible for this Russian plane being targeted but its not impossible

Who me? Yes of course, much of my family are investment bankers as I have mentioned before and we have substantial investments in Saudi and other natural resources...thats not uncommon and doesn't disprove that Saudi is considered an ally of the West But why not ask me the question directly....unless I am mistaking what you are asking? It's good that you come forward and admit your intensions instead of trying to have a moral authority on the matter. I suggest talking to priest for some further soul-searcihng. Dude what is confusing you? My point about Saudi Arabia I would have thought by now is clear. I dont like there culture or like the many areas they lack in SJ....but this would not be enough for me to not go there for work or to accept they are an ally of the West And I have no issues with people in trading in Saudi commodities...but I admit there campaign to undermine the USA shale corporations has caused some serious financial woes. One of my cousins good friends works for a Western Saudi oil trading company and was based in Saudi. He use to love it, he was good friends with someone who knew one of the royal princes and the Saudi's took a real liking to him because he was good, he really knew the oil market. Anyway he never believed the Saudis would last this long, they are really impacting there economy now by keeping oil production low. This guy I know has been basically made redundant because there isn't much work now for people like him Saudi Oh please, we all know that you try to claim a moral authority on the west because it serves your interests. That's what i am talking about. Trying to drag along Elerond with a ruse is another sniveling tactic which is quite frankly, of grade school level. He atleast gets how the game is played, and like the very spirit of Paasikivi renowned, he's diplomatic, realistic and does not pass judgement with stupid jokes. Meshugger, yes I'm glad I hit a nerve. You should be feeling guilty for exactly the reasons you are trying to ignore...a fellow Finn gets what you refuse to understand I thought you would listen to him because he is very candid....oh well I tried ...and I thought the joke was quite good, the thought of you listen to your Finnish friend, I'm funny hey

You peaked my interest. Please elaborate on why his rhetoric is correct? Basically the core idea is that by being part of the culture, it is impossible to also be an impartial outside observer to it, thus it's futile to pretend that you can be "neutral". Your concept of neutrality itself has been influenced by your culture. It feels pretty self-evident and not at all controversial to me. Also, what he said about Yudkowsky's following more or less holds water. Thank you. Why do i get a vibe of Zizek and Lacan all of the sudden...i wonder. I assume because you've been eating from the trashcan of ideology. Alu is that how you interpret what he is saying, for me he is clearly saying to be effective as a SJW you need to be hardcore .....he talks about being irrational Who is Yudkowsky....another SJW?

Haha. Well, good luck with that. I'm going to start with the websites like Polygon...Chu is more of distraction I dont want this to be personal but I really need to say a few things

Sure, I get what you saying and But my point being that wouldn't apply to most people so for me its not something that would provide meaning or comfort if I tried to use it South Africa. So at the moment if I had to ask your average impoverished black South African " how can you believe in God ...do you have proof. Your life doesn't seem that great...how can you be religious " ( this is just an example I would never ever say this") They would look at me and because what I am asking seems so severe...so desolate...I mean they have literally suffered there whole lives and now I'm saying " and guess what ....there also isn't a heaven " that would a very depressing reality so all they would say " there is a God ...there must be "...I actually heard something similar on this talk show where the commentator really said " why are Africans always suffering ....have we been cursed by God....we seem to have nothing yet we are religious " I am looking for something outside what I believe, I dont have thel right answer but I have a good opinion

Oh, that is just precious Weirdly, he is right in many places, but where he goes wrong is the idea that being a "social justice stormtrooper" is an inherently worthy pursuit. I don't find it funny at all, its this type of rhetoric that undermines real SJ change and effort Well the point is, his rhetoric is more or less correct. Just terribly, terribly impractical to actually use as a guideline of real life behavior. Alu I'm going to send a letter to Polygon about my view about this thing is actually misplaced..I know you and Baro have always supported anti-GG so I'll post it tomorrow or the next day on these forums and I'll go into detail. I want you guys to read it so you don't think I am suddenly flip flopping....I'm not GG or AGG I know we all support SJ for possibly different reasons but I want to share with you guys what I have realized

I appreciate your honesty and the fact you shared this personal experience But I would like to have this discussion with you in a different way. I have to signal Nonek out but its not personal its just you using his words to make a point and I don't get it, Nonek did say " We are slabs of meat, but we also have self knowledge, perception of our surroundings, the ability to aspire and create beauty and goodness" ...that may sound relevant but what does it really mean ....its a platitude and they always sound good because what he said doesn't and will never apply to many people and thats what I want us to consider For example I live in a country where 60 % of the population live in what most would consider poverty yet many black South Africans are religious. But for them every single day is basically a struggle and if said to them " We are slabs of meat, but we also have self knowledge, perception of our surroundings, the ability to aspire and create beauty and goodness" they would probably agree but in fact have no idea how this is relevant to them....because its not Now I know we are talking about personal experiences but surly any epiphanies we have about the purpose of life needs to be able to be relevant to people less fortunate or just others? Sorry if I sound negative but I just want to expand this debate