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Yeah, I remember you mentioned he called Hurlshot a...."Californian pedophile " ? ( or something similar )

I miss Comrade, I wonder where he is? Maybe he is on Codex under another name ?

Hi All One of my brothers, his wife and 2 kids is on a plane now to Estonia on a fact finding mission because they considering immigrating there. He works in finance and a friend of his already lives there and the company has a branch in Estonia so he will be able to get a transfer We have done our research and it looks like a great country to live in if you compare it to the problems he is concerned about in SA which is crime, corruption and issues with failed government policy But Im looking for feedback from Estonians or people who have lived there. So for example the things that matter to anyone from our family immigrating would be the following is English common, it seems to be ? they part of the EU and aligned to the West, very important what is the crime like what is education system like they are investment friendly and dont believe in nationalization and old school failed socialism All feedback is appreciated of course, the good and the bad

No the Muslim Ban wasnt a religious debate, it was about Trumpism and Qistina I doubt was a real person. She claimed she really liked me because I reminded her of her Scottish friend ....it was weird but she was entertaining

Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding

Elerond are you atheist or agnostic ?

Hi Kanie Welcome back, you have been missed. It feels like you havent posted in ages ?

Thanks for the feedback, I am not going to continue this debate on CRT this weekend. I am not being rude but we can continue in the future if you dont mind?

Why you being so morbid, you going to live forever !!!! If I can prove to you that their is more to existence than just what we think and our physical bodies would you change your mind ?

Informative post, thanks for sharing And kids from the age of 13-16 do they have access to surgery and hormone treatment? And do you support kids younger than 18 deciding outside there parents wishes?

I havent and I dont plan to I dont follow extremist interpretation of anything

But even if its not surgery, taking hormone medication at the age of 13-16 is not a good idea And more concerning to me is allowing kids to decide outside of parents wishes seems egregious

Isnt that Old Testament? Christians generally follow New Testament where you dont offer your daughter for rape Its better to learn from New Testament ?We also dont follow everything 100% in the bible because it was written between 1400-1800 years ago in a different era and we dont keep slaves anymore, kill people who work on Sunday or kill people because they gay Times have changed Elerond and we update things accordingly

I am not going to get into another CRT debate this weekend but its much bigger than just what one person thinks he is doing. And I do find what he said offensive and irritating because some of us take this debate seriously or at least our concerns are real. I really think the culture wars toxicity is unhelpful because it erodes real concerns about certain topics

Yes but cults are normally an aberration of scripture and religious teachings, its the same as Islamic extremism does not represent that Islam stands for?

For me personally there are too many unknown facts and data about the world and its mysteries to say "their is no such thing as a god " but I cant prove and convince you that religion is definitely true But I have had some real lived experiences in my life that have made me believe their is more to this world than just what science tells us And I agree with you 100% about the overreach of any religion telling people what they can or cant do around things like dress code or drinking wine. Im not sure what religion allows you to rape your daughter ...thats sounds unlikely?

https://www.wsmv.com/2022/07/15/youth-transgender-shows-persistence-identity-after-social-transition/ So this an interesting debate. The article makes a point "Once a person takes the step to come out as gender diverse, whether that is transgender or non-binary, they may take the first step of making a social transition. Then they can go on further to make a medical transition. That could involve puberty blockers which would prevent development in the puberty they were assigned at birth or going on to receive gender affirming hormones like testosterone or estrogen in their affirmed gender. That is a process that involves a lot of work with a medical team and a mental health professional " I dont believe any kid should be allowed to take medication until they 18 or 21 and before that the parents have to agree. If parents are fine with there kids dressing up like a girl and going to school thats fine but they shouldnt be allowed to use girls changerooms because they still boys I have no issue with young people experimenting with cross dressing but the idea of taking medication to block puberty I think is dangerous What do you guys think? Should kids be allowed to take hormone treatment before 18 and do you think the parents views matter?

Do you want to know why thats a consideration? But dont say yes if you might get offended by what I want to caution you about because I am have been in a similar situation to you

Agreed, science is making new discoveries all the time But let you ask you an honest and important question, why are you an agnostic and why are you not religious? I mentioned most of my family are atheist or agnostic so I am aware of different reasons for people not being religious or they use to be religious and then life experiences changed that. So its unlikely you will surprise me But why I am asking is sometimes non-believers of religion will focus on parts of scripture that we know is not accurate, for example the earth is not 6000 years old. Its 6 billion years old and we also know Noah couldnt have had every animal in his ark because animals like kangaroos and the dodo didnt exist in the ME where Noah lived But for me those stories are parables and are not the real point of the New Testament but going back to the question. Why arent you religious, is it because you dont see any definitive proof? Or do you see religion as hypocritical ?

Thats an interesting analogy around the ruler but I am not sure its the same as sub-atomic particles For example a 30 cm ruler is only 30 cm long and when you start dividing it in half it gets smaller and not bigger. So as you keep making it smaller you right it does become infinitely smaller which is why I ask what exists that is smaller than a quark? Can science answer that?

You guys are comparing a spirit\soul to a physical body. Its completely different and you cant make those comparisons If you look at the suggestion of ghosts or what Hindus believe with reincarnation and the idea of achieving Nirvana its all about a change of form, we already know energy is never destroyed and just changes its state. So there is a scientific answer to death and religion but you cant ask questions from a physical perspective @rjshae may be right and at the time of death your state of mind will be different but it doesnt mean religion isn't true and we also know science provides us with lots of answers but lots of questions exist as well. Just something simple, whatas the smallest sub-atomic particle ...a Quark I think it is. But whats underneath that ? I dont think we can truly ignore the idea of divine creation if we dont have all the answers?

Good question, no one can say for sure. I would assume so ?

Isnt she married?

Nice, the Ruskies will be very mad and provoked

Gorthfuscious !!!! Thats very controversial and funny EDIT : You also make a good point if you are atheist or agnostic