walkerguy

So since the dawn of time and beginnings of torture, all tortured subjects have lied and the investigators have enjoyed it, even carried torture into the 21st century nonetheless! We know it is will not work, but its just such a pleasure to not recieve your desired intel. Another pastime is not torturing! Even less helpful data is gained resluting in even more enjoyment!!

We can provide many cases when it did work. Just because terrorists have enough discipline not to tell the truth doesn't discount torture as a sometimes successful tool.

Oh no! Catfight! Dan vs Sand

barrel vs crate please, googlefights are getting old... :sad:

Expected. Jack***. I thinkses I posted this earlier... Well, in case I didn't, .

Thats what looks so unattractive to me. I consider getting galaxies, but so much FAIL including the $/month I dont know if Im up for that.

Today is March 33, LOL. I thought about saying theres a snake in the tub (after during the winter a mouse got in the tub) but ended up not doing it.

Indeed, Gfted.

An excellent argument: http://people.brandeis.edu/~teuber/torture.html

There is nothing there that "borders" on torture, all of it is torture if it is meant to help in extracting information. Unless you want to argue that some of that doesn't bring physical or mental pain. This is Krezack's post modified (Sensory Deprivation and CIA quotes added) and put into Way-Off where the topic is more relevant. These certainly are torture methods, and that should be clear despite that one sentence. BTW, walkerguy, not walkerperson, theres no need for that, and the real username is shorter to type anyhow. *Darth Vader voice* Effective, terrifying torture will not result in grovelling information, but, rather, just the intel you wanted. Sure. But a belly slap isn't like ripping your limbs apart is it? Thats not the point. Why should be expect al-Qaeda (our enemies) to be nice to our troops? So we don't get all flustered and have bush storm in with thousands more marines? We will not negotiate nor play fair with terrorists. If we need intel from a terrorist, we should do well to extract that information. Thats too simple a point to argue about torture. Torture is not proven effective. It depends on your allegiance, what is at stake, how far one would go for intel. Torture is effective sometimes, but not all the time.

Deja vu!!

Meanwhile in the "Torture!" thread: No! *walkergrunt escapes*

Oh no! He said ****! Mommy!!

Witches? Are there witches in Australia? If no is yur answer, dont vote!

Yes.

Star wars battlefront one glitch, happens here and there (xbox only perhaps?) you get out of a tank, plane, turret, whatever and your body is stuck in the falling postition, arms bent and legs bent, bracing to land on the ground only you dont, you float. your glitched character then floats around and can still shoot and toss greneades with reduced visablitiy because his arms are in the way. If you jump or roll or get into another tank, etc the glitch will stop. Its funny and doesnt really piss me off or anything. Also has happens a lot on the yavin 4 temple level

And they carry these: Look! A warning label so I don't shoot my head off

(List largely in thanks to Krezack) More on CIA philosophy and process CIA search Policies on torture techniques allowed by US officials are very strict and have a requirement of not causing permanent physical damage. I don't defend the CIA, but to go around claiming it randomly tortures people is idiotic. Even in the cases it does authorise torture methods, do you really think it's a field agent that carries it out? Supposedly there are about 14 CIA operatives in entire world who are authorised to carry out the interrogation techniques which border on torture. Some of the forms: 1. The Attention Grab: The interrogator forcefully grabs the shirt front of the prisoner and shakes him. 2. Attention Slap: An open-handed slap aimed at causing pain and triggering fear. 3. The Belly Slap: A hard open-handed slap to the abdomen. The aim is to cause pain, but not internal injury. Doctors consulted advised against using a punch, which could cause lasting internal damage. 4. Long Time Standing: This technique is described as among the most effective. Prisoners are forced to stand, handcuffed and with their feet shackled to a bolt in the floor, for more than 40 hours. 5. The Cold Cell: The prisoner is left to stand naked in a cell kept near 50 degrees Fahrenheit (10 degrees Celsius). 6. Waterboarding: The prisoner is bound to an inclined board, feet raised and head slightly below the feet. Material is wrapped over the prisoner's face and water is poured over him. Unavoidably, the gag reflex kicks in and a terrifying fear of drowning leads to almost instant pleas to bring the treatment to a halt. 7. Sensory Deprivation: Can be inflicted by immobilizing individuals in small, soundproof rooms and fitting them with blacked-out goggles and earmuffs. Sensory Deprivation Sensory Deprivation experiences CIA search

While you're readying that, I'm ripping you up.

I still say P-90. You'll be going around wanting to do some long range action then a guy pops up right in front of you! What do you do? Use your stupid M95? No! P-90 time!

I agree. It isn't. The prisoners of Guantonomo get better healthcare than many of our citizens. More... Just a movie altering politics?

But what the hell is this, is Ronald McDonald a pervert?!