Mamoulian War

Considering the MMO market is thriving with a number of titles, it seems to me like you don't know much about the market or the genre. You don't need anywhere near WoW numbers to turn a healthy profit. I mostly agree with you, but having ****loads of revenue, does not automatically means you are not in red numbers in the end. And your table also proves few of ktchong's points. MMO market is dominated by WoW and NCsoft. For a new MMOs, it is very hard to get out of red numbers after all. The biggest example is SW: TOR. The game was a reason why EA bought Bioware in the first place IMO, that's 860 mio. Let's say Bioware was worth 4/5 of the price (688 mio) of whole Bio/Pandemic bundle and the development cost 200 mio (not included marketing costs and royalties). http://venturebeat.com/2012/01/20/ea-spent-only-200m-to-make-star-wars-the-old-republic/ The estimate of the development time and all expenses included is at 500 mio. That makes 1,188 bio of money spent on that game. So even if the revenue would be profit, which is not, the game would get into black numbers maybe in 7 - 8 years, because most of the money earned was from the initial sales, and these revenues are not in the table as well. As we all know the difference between revenue and profit can be astronomical. EAs revenue in 2013 was 3,797 bio. GAAP net income was 98 mio. Non-GAAP revenue and net income was at 3,793 bio and 264 mio respectively. http://investor.ea.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=762744 So coming out of these numbers, my uneducated guess is, that it might take them a "little bit" more that 7-8 years to get out of red number with this game FFXIV is very similar story, but so far without numbers provided (feel free to correct me if I missed them) But on the other hand FFXI was confirmed by Wada-san as a most profitable FF ever. http://www.famitsu.com/news/201206/23016877.html http://andriasang.com/con1mt/ffxi_profits/ But nevertheless it took them 10 years to get there.

Finished last possible battle trophies in current playthrough of Star Ocean. Now at 852 out of 900 BTs. Now up to Universe difficulty playthrough and finishing last few battle trophies with Faize.

For some people even free games on Steam are to expensive

Lets not Ugh...leave that kiddie HS crap for JRPG territory. I facepalm/cringe every time I hear Chris bring that up. He needs to put that one to rest for good. dont they have that in a way? its almost like south park there is a way to satisfy most of these needs without having to start a new ip pillars of eternity 2, set 200 years in the future in a steampunk world with a western feel to it (like wild wild west for example) pillars of eternity 3, set 500 years after 2. space pirates mixed in a war between the humans, elf, orlan etc with an alien race for control of a planet that does not belong to either of them pillars of eternity 4, set 1000 years after 3, where cyber enhanced orlans, with the use of interdimensional travel, try to save earth during alternate history WW2, where goth vampire elfs are collaborating with Hitler and leading crusade against humanity. The only option for them how to save the Earth is to join forces with rich kid gangster Aumauas and nerd Dwarves, to find Big Magic Sword hidden by Godlikes in Mesozoic history of earth!

No!

And all I want is to play Curse of the Crimson Throne or Carrion Crown Adventure Paths made under Obsidian's agreement with Paizo, which was announced last year

It definitely sounds interesting! What is this fascination with open worlds lately? I miss the days of tighter and narrower sprawly environments, like say the Spencer Mansion in Resident Evil, or even more recently, the Asylum in Arkham Asylum. It carries the good parts about backtracking, where familiarity with the environment felt nice and intuitive.. the place environment became home. Most open world settings as of late feel very unforgettable and unnecessarily padded.. to keep it on topic in regards to Levine, I'd say BioShock 1 had it right with Rapture. I hope this open world thing is just another phase the industry is going through before the next big thing arrives. You know, Skyrim happened, and now everyone wants slice of this pie. Same like it was with MMOs few years ago. Every single open world game I played was so boring after a while, and as you say, the setting of them and story is completely forgettable. http://www.thejimquisition.com/2015/01/the-jimquisition-we-need-more-spencer-mansions/ He might be controversial sometimes, but this episode is exactly taken from my mind... I sometimes wish, that we could again get new Final Fantasy with HD prerendered backgrounds and static cameras. FF IX-2 made this way in collaboration with Sakaguchi-san would satisfy most of my wet dreams... Unfortunately this will never happen

Finally got 30000 kills Battle Trophy with Edge in Star Ocean Last Hope International. After 570 hours played I am missing only last 54 out of 900 Trophies. Thankfully the hardest and all except one timeconsuming are finished. 5 more trophies with Myuria, and I can finally go for another playthrough of the game on 2nd hardest difficulty to get another PS Trophy. After that one playthrough on easiest to finish 49 trophies for dead Faize, and then only one more playthrough on hardest difficulty, and I should see to pop-up the Platinum for this game O.o This is my biggest test of my patience. I started game during Xmas 2010 and I was always getting back to the game after bigger or smaller breaks of up to 6 months. But with PoE coming closer and closer to the release, I do not think I will be able to finish this game before summer. And right after that, I should consult my shrink

Also on http://www.gog.com/game/blackguards_2 for the people who prefer DRM free stuff.

Anyone picked it up? I am still thinking about buying it or not, so any recommendations would be much appreciated.

Oooh, visual novel dating sim with orcs!!! *drools*

w00t w00t w00t http://www.gog.com/news/release_double_dragon_trilogy :aiee: EDIT: and one more thing which should not be lost in the text: Thanks to the cross-play feature of GOG Galaxy, GOG.com gamers are now able to double up for a beat down with their Steam friends and frenemies. This is awesome to read, if this will be feature of Galaxy for all games after it gets into full release, it is an awesome news!!!

Doesn't Slitherine own the 40K license now?

I look at a game like DA2, and I think it is a terrible game with very few redeeming qualities. I look at a game like Mass Effect 1, and I see a game that I could never enjoy but looks generally decent, with some things construable as strengths. Same with KOTOR. And if we want to talk about the Codex, or any other hypothetical group of 'Bio haters', I think you'd find that many of them individually have different opinions. Some of them even seem to write off BG series, while others clearly like Bio games enough to buy and play them. Now if you want to talk details about why I or anyone else might consider any of these games, we can! We can talk about the single player MMO grind combat of DA:I, the quest writing behind DA2, the screensaver combat of KOTOR, the Four MacGuffins of NWN1... obviously, I didn't feel the need to write a book about it in this thread. Doesn't mean you can say "hey, you clearly are a Biohater who has no evidence for his opinion." (There is another assumption running through your response, which is that games which millions of people buy and play could not possibly be terrible. Well, I can see why people would go with that. I don't subscribe to it. We're all capable of enjoying terrible things, whether in the realm of popular culture or in more serious realms of violence, racism, whatever.) Basically my point is simple. Why do some people say harsh things about a game, or a line of games, or a company that makes those games? The most likely answer: they really don't like those games. They really did not enjoy those games, and/or they think the games are objectively terrible. If we want to dispute those judgments, sure, that's why we come to these forums. If we want to sit there and say "oh those people don't count, they just hate Bioware because of what happened 10 years ago" or "oh those people just hate Bio games for no reason", well... I'm sure that's true for some people, but I find that a rather irrational and unreasonable stance. Tigranes let me ask you a different question because you a reasonable person who I believe who will ruminate on the question and then answer honestly This dislike of Bioware I understand can be perfectly justified for some people, but how much of this dislike do you think is really motivated by the fact that Bioware has been one of the first companies to challenge traditional gaming "norms" and be really inclusive for their fanbase So in other words they have gay characters and optional gay Romance options. Do you not think this is another factor to the whole fall of Bioware in the eyes of some of the previous fans? I doubt people would admit this but I believe this is a contributing reason? You could have gay/lesbian marriage already in Fallout 2 and a "romance/relationship" in ToEE as well, long before Bioware. And I do not see anyone hating on these two games for that reason. Saying that people are hating on Bioware only because they are homophobes is imo kind of naive...

I prefer this one

I am playing Gran Turismo 6 now and then, finally found a good online community, the only problem is, that I am really far behind the best of them But the racing is really fun. In the meanwhile I am still playing Star Ocean 4. Just got 99,999 hits battle trophy for edge few days ago and getting close to 30,000 kills battle trophy with him. ~3600 kills to go. And started to play again Shadowrun Returns on Hard difficulty. This time with Dwarf melee brute, with almost all karma put into Strength and Close Combat. The Pommel attack combined with Haste buff from Shaman is really overpowered O.o

OK, I think this thread needs a little bit of digging out of the grave and blow of the dirt and settled dust. So, except the amazing Wasteland 2, Divinity: Original Sin, Dead State and Shadowrun: Dragonfall, what are the other kickstarter games, that were released after august 2013 and requires our full attention?

Yeah that is sad. The only good W40k game I have played is Chaos Gate, the turn based strategy made by SSI. And it is really long time ago

http://pathfinder.obsidian.net/ I think this answers your question

I would love to see that too, but all I can see now is another mindless generic shooter with "RPG" Elements and ****loads Michael Bay XplushnZTM to cover the crap plot.

Can't wait to get my hands on this as well!

You are going by the literal, 50%+1 definition of "mostly", right? I haven't played DAI, but from what I've read, it doesn't really deliver on promises made, it's buggy as hell (a hallmark of Bioware products) and the PC controls aren't very good. This doesn't necessarily make it a bad game, but nothing that "restores faith", whatever that means. I'll get around to playing it if I see a good bargain or in a few years, and I'll probably like it enough to finish it, much like every other Bio game, except JE. However, I reserve my worship and faith for stuff that is actually important in my life, such as peanut butter and bacon sandwiches. My guess is half of those negative reviewers are people who haven't even played the game, they just automatically default to hating all things Bioware. At least that would fit the trend we are seeing on these forums. I can play that game as well: My guess is half of those positive reviewers are people who are paid by EA, they just do what their exec told them too

Man I wish I could see such writing for intelligent-like-a-brick characters in modern games...

That's blatant lies. My grandmom still cooks as fantastic as 25 years ago...