Setzer

Oblivion and Gears of War are right now the top 2 games for the console. The other games you mentioned are good titles but don't fit into the category of "killer app" or "must own", imo.

I was a level 18 Aasimar Paladin when I finished the game. 19th level overall. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How many hours did it take you to finish the OC? I understand this is going to vary for everyone, depending how you play the game. I'm just curious if you thought the game was too long, too short?

Actually this is an issue of me trying to get my game running smoothly so I can actually play it and maybe have a better impression of it than I do now. But if you would prefer to know more about my monitor then PM me and I'll send you the link to it's specs and where you can buy one.

No one gets it, not even you. Again, thanks for your insightful input in helping me to get my game running smoothly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> three people, including myself have explained it to you. taks wasnt saying that your LCD sucks, he was just saying that because LCD's require high resolutions to look good, they're not really fit for gaming since few vid cards can actually run a game like nwn2 in 1600x1200. he wasnt saying it was your LCD. talking about <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LMFAO Seriously man, go back and read what's going on before you post. Not once did I take what taks was saying as "My LCD sucks". Where the hell did you get that? According to taks, my poor FPS issues has to do with my large LCD monitor and trying to run NWN2 in it's native resolution of 1680x1050. If I had a small LCD with a lower native res. or a CRT monitor then I wouldn't be having these issues. So, how is this not the problem of my large LCD monitor? Apparently if I want the game to look and play well I'm going to need a smaller monitor. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> he's not saying it's your lcd. he's saying its your lcd and your video card. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LOL Now you're making yourself look bad. Please, just stop already.

1up.com scored it a 10/10. Impressive. Still not enough for me to spend $400+ on a 360 though. The console has been out a year and this is only the 2nd "killer app" for it.

I tried setting the resolution, in game, to 1280x1024 and all it did was stretch the screen out. Is there something I need to enable in game or in the .ini file in order to make this work? Maybe it's just a feature of your monitor?

No one gets it, not even you. Again, thanks for your insightful input in helping me to get my game running smoothly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> three people, including myself have explained it to you. taks wasnt saying that your LCD sucks, he was just saying that because LCD's require high resolutions to look good, they're not really fit for gaming since few vid cards can actually run a game like nwn2 in 1600x1200. he wasnt saying it was your LCD. talking about <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LMFAO Seriously man, go back and read what's going on before you post. Not once did I take what taks was saying as "My LCD sucks". Where the hell did you get that? According to taks, my poor FPS issues has to do with my large LCD monitor and trying to run NWN2 in it's native resolution of 1680x1050. If I had a small LCD with a lower native res. or a CRT monitor then I wouldn't be having these issues. So, how is this not the problem of my large LCD monitor? Apparently if I want the game to look and play well I'm going to need a smaller monitor.

No one gets it, not even you. Again, thanks for your insightful input in helping me to get my game running smoothly.

Setzer, since you insist on saying he was trying to change what he said, I went back and looked at the original posts, and I noticed something rather important: When he was talking about your monitor, he was talking about video quality, not performance. Since the performance was subpar at the high resolutions, you tried dropping it down but then complained that the game looked horrible. At no point did he say that your monitor was causing poor performance in this post that you mention. If anything, I think you just misinterpretted his post, and then continued onwards. He said the large LCD monitors can be poor for gaming because their native resolution is excessively high, and can outstrip the performance of a video card very easily if you want to play in the native resolution (i.e. the best quality). He never said it was the cause of poor performance. You misread his post, and then continued on an argument with him with that misinterpretation, which naturally made him defensive. Unfortunately, even when you went back to look at his post, you failed to look at the post directly above his post that was yours, where you made a comment about how the image quality was poor. In essence, you took his quote out of context, and incorrectly assumed (again) that he was talking about your monitor being the cause for the performance problem. To reiterate, the comment about the monitor was referring to the poor image quality at lower resolutions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was talking about PERFORMANCE not how bad the game looked. My problem was when I tried to run the game at 1680x1050 my FPS was terrible outdoors and the only way I could get the game to run decent was to drop the resolution to 1280x960 and turn everything off, then my FPS jumped to where the game played smoothly but of course didn't look good. So, this is a problem with poor FPS and not how bad the game looks. I'm trying to figure out why I get poor FPS when I'm running this game at 1680x1050 because I don't get it when I'm playing Oblivion, WoW, or Dark Messiah at that resolution. Taks responded with, "ooohhh... you have an LCD. sorry. yeah, that could be a killer. LCDs need to run in their native which is probably 1600x1200? that would be murder on most vid cards." Ok, where in that statement is he talking about the game looking bad at lower resolutions on a large LCD monitor? From that statement he's saying that running the game in my monitor's native resolution(1680x1050) would be "murder" on my video card, which to me means, the game isn't going to perform very well at my monitor's native resolution. My only solution to fix this problem would be to drop my resolution down or get a smaller monitor thus my large LCD monitor and it's native resolution being the cause of my performance issues. He even goes on to say... "i have a 21" samsung at work (well, one here, too, the 213T) and it looks horrible with everything, [/b] even winderson anything less than 1600x1200. unfortunately, i don't have a vid card strong enough to power that resolution at 75 Hz refresh, 32-bit color and any nifty options. so it sits unused." Here he refers to his video card not being powerful enough to run anything at his monitor's native resolution, 1600x1200. Ok, now he's implying that if you don't have a good enough video card then don't expect to run anything at your monitor's native res.(1680x1050). My video card is a 7900GT 512mb, I should have no problems running my monitor at 1680x1050 and I don't for everything except NWN2. I understand that running the monitor in a resolution other than it's native is going to make anything look horrible but again, this is NOT my problem. My problem is running NWN2 at 1680x1050 and having poor FPS.

I believe Oblivion uses dynamic lighting and shadow effects and I can run it perfectly at 1680x1050. This is why I feel it's a problem with the games engine working with my hardware, not my hardware being inadequate to run the game. I'm giving taks a hard time because he started off with saying that my LCD and running the game at it's native resolution was the problem and then turns around and says he never said my monitor was the problem.

Could you two just do a duel like in the good ol' times please? (new smileys yay) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That actually would work but I'm afraid taks would give me directions on where to meet and then end up going somewhere else -- and then tell me those weren't the directions he gave me.

Hey Lare, thanks for your input. You've been way more helpful than taks has been in resolving my problem. I can finally play NWN2 thanks to you! Even DA's in this world can still be useful. :dragon:

and you're the one making inaccurate statements which is actually pretty hilarious. I believe you were the one that made the statement "there aren't many other games out there with this complexity running so many different cool options (water, lighting, shadows, etc.) this combination has obviously pushed graphics cards to their limits" to which I responded with Oblivion and then you make the statement that Oblivion doesn't have any shadows or lighting effects, which is false.

Oblivion?

obviously your card can't handle the game no matter what its specs are, otherwise you wouldn't be posting in here about how it sucks running dynamic lighting, shadows and 1680x1050. just because the specs say "true HDR lighting support" does not mean it will automatically be optimal with this game, at this resolution, with reasonable frame rates. taks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is EXACTLY why the problem is with NWN2 NOT my hardware.

whatever. in the end, however, expecting this to perform the same as oblivion is a waste. the game is what it is, and if you want dynamic lighting and shadows, you're gonna have to accept the fact that the video card can't do it at the resolution you require. taks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It can't? Here are the specs of my card..... LINK My video card isn't the issue, it's perfectly capable of handling 1680x1050, dynamic lighting and shadows. The problem is the game.

I think that RPGS moving in this direction is NOT a good thing. The IE games tended to punish people who killed innocents, but if you were careful you could get away with it. For example in Nashkel I would always kill Noober. The trick was to kill him in one swift blow without giving him the chance to turn hostile. You could also kill innocent people in isolated areas and as long as you didnt let your reputation get too low you could get away with it. I hate the fact that freedom is being taken away from the players and I despise how games like the NWN expansion pack, NWN2 and the KOTOR series are treating players like children by coddling them through linear plots. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know it does suck. Almost like a form of censorship."We can't allow you to role play your character as total evil, that would be immoral." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, because this ain't GTA people!

because the problem is with your video card's inability to run at that resolution with the options you choose (in NWN2 options panel). a monitor only displays what is fed to it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, and this is a NWN2 problem. It's a problem with the game not my hardware.

It makes us sad it does. How are you suppose to live up to your evil ways as a wanton murderer and pillager if you can't kill townies. Or stupid npcs. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly. Makes me sad.

Why can't I kill the townspeople in the tutorial?

he's not repeatedly complaining that "it runs oblivion fine, therefore it should run NWN2 fine as well." i've also got a pretty good guess that ellester realizes that different games behave differently with the same hardware (based on years of reading ellester's posts). I only said "it runs Oblivion fine" once. I don't know where you get I've repeatedly been complaining about it? See, this is my problem with your statement -- if my LCD requires it runs native(1680x1050) in order for it to look good and NWN2 has problems running at higher resolutions then how are you saying the problem isn't my monitor? If I had a smaller monitor I wouldn't be having these issues...apparently.

direct comparisons of any engine are ridiculous when they are obviously rendering different styles of graphics. it is a different engine entirely. there isn't even a slight resemblance of NWN2 to oblivion. i'm not sure why you don't seem to understand this. two completely different approaches to graphics. to assume one runs with certain performance should automatically imply another will run with similar performance is an absolute joke. if you cannot understand why this is, i cannot help you. taks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ellester is having no problems running Oblivion @ 1680x1050 -- why not rip on him for comparing the 2 like you did me? By the way, I understand perfectly that these are 2 completely different games using entirely different engines but all I was doing was proving to you that my monitor wasn't the problem.

Either that or you can download & run a cool little utility called FRAPS.

it should, and i don't know why it won't. though, as noted, 1680x1050 is not a standard 4:3 aspect ratio. maybe it is because the game is trying to force 4:3 on top of your native mode? dunno... perhaps the black-bar fall-back is all you can do. taks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It won't. I can run Oblivion in 1680x1050 on my widescreen lcd perfectly (my monitors native res), and I can run it with NWN2, but the frame rates suck. So, I use 1024 x 768, it's not appealing, but it runs a lot smoother. btw, I have a 7950 GTX, FX-60 and 2 gigs of ram <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yah but you can't compare Oblivion and NWN2, at least according to taks.