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I found it now. Yeah, that's a stretch. Most of them are features of story based games and nonlinear games. Which is not the same as an RPG. Hell, you've just nearly invalidated any consideration of Diablo as an RPG. Or MMORPGs. And JRPGs. Far Cry actually becomes nearly as much an RPG as Diablo was. Postal might even qualify more than Diablo. Because the combat simulation system was atypical for the time. It had little influence from quantitized statistics representing the character's ability. Or at least less so than was typical at the time (or even nowadays).

Who's to say "why" is even a valid question? "Why are we here" sounds like possibly the dumbest question in the world to ask.

I'm posting in a thread about philosophy and determinism and telling you to stop claiming that's the only definition of determinism. And the unbolded ones do not mean predictability. They mean the obediance to natural laws and the rejection of abiding to "free will."

I bought the first one used over Amazon. Haven't gotten around to playing it yet. I just had to make sure to snatch it up because it's not always so available.

You're going to have a very very hard time justifying this statement. Even if one considers Deus Ex an RPG, it is a giant stretch to label it typical.

Again, stop doing that. Stop confusing the definition with the extension of the philosophy. When I say "basic concept of determinism" I mean only what is explicitly stated by that definition. Not everything covered by the philosophy that definition associates itself with. What you're referring to are not basic in the least. They're just common. de

Tron 2.0 is tons of fun. It's made by Monolith, y'know?

His answer's better than mine.

What kind of people want 6 personal references? I'm a shut-in, dag nabbit. I'm stretching to find 2. Oh wait, yeah... the kind of people who give out jobs with guns.

What, even taking into consideration that fact that quantum mechanics is the government of the macroscopic world? Seems far-fetched to me. Causality doesn't imply predictability (determinism). Causality implies "if I do this, something will happen". It makes no assertions about what will happen. Istama: Like TA said, free-will is a combination of the illusion of chaos and non-determinism in the universe (and an illusion that will forever hold true for humans). And in the case of humans there is actually a strong case for true non-determinism re a multitude of various stochastic processes in the brain (from sensory input to metabolic equilibria to electron flow). There's nothing about predictability in there. Simply that everything that is is causally determined. HEY! What does causality mean again? Don't confuse the basic concept of determinism with the philosophy of determinists.

Ark of Truth was one giant Deus Ex Machina to the Ori arc. But these "Sci-Fi" shows have been doing that constantly since at least the original Star Trek. It was still better than anything to come out of the Ori arc.

I've known lots of people with St. Patrick's birthdays. Myself for example.

I'm completely behind the basic concept of determinism. Causality as an inviolate rule.

Your girlfriend's a Farscape fan? Keeper.

Generally an RPG is considered a game with a combat simulation system that is similar to those used by PnP RPGs from which the CRPG spawned. Simply having a growth mechanic is often considered insufficient. But heck, even Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines only had probably one more RPG element than Deus Ex. It's a heavily debatable topic. There's very little formalization in video game genre discrimination. Even some of the older games of the CRPG heritage billed themselves as adventure games. I personally prefer relatively strict assignments based on the most prominent aspects of the game and according to key examples. I think Deus Ex has far more in common with Half-Life than Baldur's Gate and would sooner recommend it to a Half-Life fan than a BG fan. Then throw in whatever qualifiers you think are relevant (action, adventure, with RPG elements, etc.).

No, not yours. The post I had but edited out. I was arguing against something you said in a way that's really not relevant to the topic at hand.

*pointless argument*

Classless, sounds more like fallout.

Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete The last PSOne game I own that I never beat or gave up on. I even have the strategy guide. Best strategy guide ever made.

People say this kind of thing a lot. I'll never understand it. It's one thing to accept what something is, but to find it fun? What if they simply don't like Diablo? If "they" don't like Diablo, they most prolly won't like Hellgate either. Duh. It was a rhetorical question. The point is that accepting it for what it is is not the biggest hurdle to overcome to like the game.

Despite being such a fanboy for this game I have yet to watch any trailers. So, is Warner Bros. going to be the one publishing this? I know they own Monolith now, but I also see that Sega published Condemned 2 instead of WB. This may be one of two games I upgrade my PC for. I know it's probably not too demanding on specs, but it may still be slighty too much for my PC. And this is hopefully assuming that it's coming to the PC without delay. Sweet, looks like they may have upgraded the melee.

I rest my case. I find it ironic that anyone who gets that angry about something so trivial can criticize anything as emo. People who don't like something are cool. People who feel the need to tell everyone why they don't like it, why everyone else shouldn't like it, and then get upset when they find out they started an argument are hilarious. Personally, Fable should be a contender for the biggest pile of **** to hit the store shelves. And let me blah blah blah blah. Anyone who disagrees is an idiot.

You're such a bad troll. It was 2 minutes to the first fight.

People say this kind of thing a lot. I'll never understand it. It's one thing to accept what something is, but to find it fun? What if they simply don't like Diablo?

If a game can upset you that much, you probably should unclench a little.