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I'll sum you up best. Yeah, I dunno what that means either. But you have to admit it sound like fun.

I'm confused, are we supposed to bitch about games that didn't live up to our hopes, or games we were never even interested in anyway? Why exactly would one need to "avoid" games anyway? Do games come around to your place wanting to be played and then you turn off all the lights and pretend no one is home?

People get way too hung up on the number/subtitle thing. It's still the same game no matter what it's called. If Bethesda suddenly decided to change the title, what exactly would people get out of that? Pat themselves on the back and go back dreaming of a "real" Fallout 3? Did RE fans freak out because Resident Evil Code Veronica was a truer sequel gameplay wise than Resident Evil 4? Probably, but RE4 had to go and be all awesome and ****, the crafty devil.

I didn't think the "side with UNATCO" thing ever got past the ideas stage.

A gay love interest with a red car, please.

There has been a rumor around for ages that the Mercenaries guys (Pandemic?) are working on a Batman game.

"You were almost a Jill Sandwich!

Huh? None of the collection quests gave achievements. There were a crapload of "use item/weapon x times" achievements though.

If you like fighting games Rival Schools is crazy Japanese awesomeness.

I disliked that too, but I still enjoyed the game overall. Prefer CT. I wouldn't say the old gen version expands on the story, as it's actually very different in places, which makes me wonder which verison they will follow for the sequel. Regarding Erica, in current gen whereas in old gen Also, old gen SC:DA has the exact same gameplay of CT, but it's also more linear levels than CT. I didn't mind the daylight missions. I also liked the missions sneaking around the terrorist compound, which apparently loads of people hated.

You won't know until you try.

Being a hardcore fan doesn't mean only liking a particular type of gameplay and rules system. One might consider themselves a hardcore fan due to loving the stories and characters that Obsidian makes. The idea that Obsidian should "be honest" and admit they aren't really making an RPG because it doesn't fit into ones own definition is the attitude of a spoiled child who can't handle not getting things their way. Anyway, I mostly agree with what random n00bman has posted. Stats and skills only say what your character can do and how well they can do it, why they do it, the characters motivations and personality is what the player wants it to be.

Still playing Persona 3, started a game of Fallout 2 after buying the collection DVD.

I'm procrastinating right now. It's delightful.

Isn't the upcoming Hinterlands supposed to be an RPG/RTS?

Because they aren't faults, they're things you don't like, and that's not something something anyone can argue with. Fact: This product is poorly designed. Opinion: I don't like this for some reason. Of course at this point it's obvious you are just trolling.

^ Sounds good to me.

So you can't just spout any old crap and expect people to know exactly what it is you are trying to say. If I create a product, and someone points out an error in the product, I'd like to know what it is so I can correct it. If it's not an error, it's just something they don't like, then frankly I'm not likely to care.

So basically, when you say "I believe developers need to see why ME is a badly designed game so they don't repeat the same mistakes." what you really mean is "I believe developers need to see what I didn't like about ME so they don't do that in future games."? Because if developers don't share your opinion on what those mistakes are, why would they change them?

I did. I recall not being too impressed with it, but I am not sure why. I love the SH series, but it's probably more due to my love of horror in general. I play them for the story and characters and locations, and always felt the gameplay alone was never enough to carry the game.

That's fine, nothing wrong with that. The reason this thread turned out the way it did is due to your loaded poll and insistence that what you want in an RPG is what is right and what others want is wrong and not what RPGs are all about. Nonsense, people like games of all kinds for all sorts of different reasons, and RPGs are no different. No, the more a genre strays from the type of games you want the less you'll like it, that is all. Many folks hate regenerating health in FPS, but that feature doesn't stop a game from being an FPS because traditionally shooters feature health kits. A more fitting analogy would be someone calling pink a "colour" and then you insisting that it's not a colour because you prefer grey, because that's exactly what you are doing. Choice & consequence and dialogue are not RPG elements. The only thing that makes an RPG is character building.

Uninteresting? Awww, you know I love you, baby... I was just going from your previous argument that your taste is gaming has never changed. You're hard to follow. Didn't you try SH3 once upon a time?

You should get a system because there are games on it you want, not because you feel you have to. The reason I got a 360 was frustration at parts of my PC hardware failing just over a year after getting them, conviently out of warranty, so what was a top of the line machine became a piece of junk. Rather then replacing them, I got myself a 360, seeing as how most of the PC games I was interested in were on that system anyway, the same reason I was never interested in the xbox. I downgraded my PC and now use it mainly for older games.

You know, disinterest isn't indicative of quality. CrashGirl no likey doesn't equal junk, otherwise your face would be junk. Oh I kill me... I don't expect you to change though, you can't teach an old dog new tricks! Seriously though, it seems you mostly watched trailers for fairly similar games. Two of them are the fifth in the series, if you aren't interested now you'll never be.