SonicMage117

I thought it was the other way around... seeing how my differed opinion was the only thing that got me called a troll in the first place.

And yet you're the one using the common troll language. The only rich here is that you accuse me of the very thing you are doing, in more ways than one.... for example, accusing me of not giving up. Here you are yet again, you must not really want this thread to die, nor must you really dislike reading my comments. Have a good day.

This doesn't happen when someone disagrees, it only happens as soon as you write weird, uncovered stuff haphazardly. It's toxic in the long run. By the way most of the answers are pretty reasonable - yours are not always among them. You do realize that the only thing he wants is this kind of attention, right? He’s not actually interested in saying anything meaningful.I already posted meaningful comments, now I'm simply replying to petty insults from people who never learned to counter comments properly. I could care less if you or anyone gives me any sort of attention. I don't know any of you so not sure how nobody's attention would somehow benefit me. No offense, just saying.

I don't think non-members aren't going to care about who's trolling who, but it is bad for the forum rep. Even moreso is people constantly degrading and accusing members of having alternate accounts just because they disagree but cannot properly counter a given standpoint on an issue, which seems to be the norm of the past few months on these threads. It's just best to let the thread die I guess, but who are we kidding, the same members that are trolling here are the same who necro'd the other thread not too long ago just to troll it further. How quickly we forget. When the members are constipated, it's easy to want to forget and I can understand that. When threads like this continue to live past their due life, I wonder, which side will set aside their pride for the sake of the community. Who will be the bigger avatar in the end?

It is as we all know, forum logic works in opposites. Another's commemts only become irrelevant or unreasonable when one comcludes them as unfavorable, this is nothing new. If you are annoyed or want the thread to die, you are not forced to read and you are not obligated to answer. However, I wouldn't let someone tell me how to write or when to stop writing. People claiming my comments are assumptions, have only been assuming themselves without admiting so and as always. In other words, this isn't about my comments being illogical, but only of my comments not being liked. You are not annoyed because my comments are nonsense or basly written or don't make sense but because you don't like what I'm saying enough tht you feel you must respond. May the thread live a happy long life, my friends.

Thank you for your answer, it helped clear things up for me. I never really understood what sandbox meant. Glad to hear that Tyranny wasn't considered open world, I loved the game but just hated the way that Obsidian put locale progression in it. Just seemed unimmersive to me but that's just my preference. The timeline deal was unique but became more and more tedious for me as the player.

The first one had poor sales on consoles but I'm hoping this one will do better. You'd think it will given that it has a more popular theme and seems to be much better marketed but we will see Here's to positivity!

Level scaling was the best thing that happened to rpg's at one point... then something happened and it got ruined (casuals intervened perhaps). Glad to hear that it will only support upwards scaling... I never knew this til now.

"They owe us guys, they lied." "Shut up. Troll!!" I like the sound of both sides. I still think they may give backers a free special item if this thread gets popular enough. Wait... Who are we kidding, they probably won't see this thread to be honest. Don't mind my rambling...

I love to read but reading can be a pain when you're super tired after a long day at work. Even moreso if you spend all day on the phone/computer or in an office.

When I first read this, I read "Does anybody else make full custom panties"... But to answer your question, I do not. Though I would love to, I'm afrad time and energy are not available as they once were. I wish, as it seems it would semi-enhance the gameplay of any rpg like this.

Open world will be fine as long as it's not like Tyranny (was Tyranny considered open-world? I believe that players considered it as so, even though Obsidian did not - if I remember correctly, I may be wrong). Cut off sections in an almost boardgame set-piece like structure in which it operates. That's really what Tyranny's world felt like to me and to be honest, I did not appreciate it. If we can all agree on one thing, it would be that Deadfire's world deserves to be explored without cut-offs and check-points/pre-destination limitations (you cannot achieve going here without doing x) I don't think it will be sandbox but sandbox is pretty loose term now days in gaming. Does open world go with sandbox? Maybe that means the same as "Can we keep living this lie in Deadfire? Will Obsidian encourage it? What types of things will we be able to do?" I have no clue if we will be able to play around in the world after the campaign is done, I would assume so since there are alot of non-scripted random events and more likely some mini-games to partake in this time around. Maybe some "Outdrink the Ogre"? Hmmmph... we shall see soon enough.

Lovecraftian rpg or steampunk would be amazing... If only!

It's a new IP, definitely a new rpg but we don't really know anything other than those two things. As long as they focus on creating a new world without limits, it will be great. Tyranny was a bit of a let-down, hopefully it's not like Tyranny. That's all I wish.

Where is the creativity? Where is the logical argument at? If you disagree, can you accomplish saying something reasonable without throwing petty insults, or do we always have to resort to that kind of thing every time we read something we don't like? I know it's the cool thing on here to gang up while trolling, that's always been an interesting forum behavior to me. Edit: You guys reminded me of

By some I mean more people than me, people besides me, other people that are not me. Katrina not being the face of Deadfire backers may be subjective. In most cases, it certainly would make sense thst to people is since the first face you see in the video is in fact, Katrina's. If course it's her job, you're repeating what I've been saying, but her job title doesn't actually somehow magically become the excuse of fans being able to dismiss her for the very role she was hired for. It doesn't make sense. All that I've written, none of it is baseless speculation, as I've repeatedly saud that none of what I wrote of business model was targeted towards Obsidian. I am not really responsible for how people recieve what I've written, especially when I've made it perfectly clear that what I've written wasn't focused on Obsidian but businesses in general. I won't let it go because you have been twisting my words and putting words in my mouth, also because some people with the attitude of "The thread is over because I say it's over". I'll stop denying my actions when you start admitting you're continously trying to convince me that I wrote something different than I actually did, fair? Best I can do. Where are these conspiracies people keep speaking of? It's almost as if people are tryimg to see something that's never been there in the comments. Besides me, there are a few other people on this thread and all we've been saying is that it's strange that she left before the game released. As a person who has been involved in passionate projects before, I know how awkward it would be to leave right before a project I loved was released. It's not normal and nobody will convince me otherwise. Katrina probably won't be at the release party because it would be too awkward (common sense but that would also probably be considered forum logic by today's standard). Even if she was offered another job, employers would be able to wait til the project is released, etc. So that's mainly what tips concern. Red flags if an employer cannot respect wishes before starting an employee who spent years with a team working on a project, a new employer saying "You can't" is not realistic thinking as employers don't say that instead they ask "When can you start?" Because it's professional and courteous. Oh well.

I would love full voice acting for a game like Deadfire, seems this is the type of game that would actually benefit most from it and usher in a new audience due to broadening the accessibility.

There is no conspiracy nonsense going on here, I mean, nobody is projecting that there is something diabolical going on within Obsidian or anything silly like that & someone showing genuine concern doesn't mean they have a negative outlook about the company, they probably care more.. Being an iconic part of a company and even more importantly, a company that operates as a family is enough to make me really wonder deeper on the subject. It's not always about the money and not everyone has the selfish mindset of building careers off of using companies as stepping stones. I'd like to think she had more integrity than that, there are of course, many other variables to consider that nobody wants to admit/mention but if someone is struggling, I could see how higher pay and a pat on the back would make them think otherwise. Katrina is and will always be a bright shining star if Obsidian's past. May she forever burn bright. We do not typically think of Sawyer, Furgus or even Dowling when we think of Deadfire videos, Katrina is. To that respect, as backers/fans, we should always cheerish these memories and never downplay her role in light of her parting. With much respect and adoration, safe journey Katrina - forever immortalized in the backer videos

I want it!!!

Is hard to describe with just one game, the combat is M&B, War of the Roses and Chilvary. The open world feel like Skyrim meets the Witcher (no loading times when you enter a house).The RPG elements would be the harder to nail down since there is a lot reactivity to your character and his choices but at the same time it feels linear, kinda like it was the thing that was supposed to happen. The leveling is straight up Skyrim but with better perks. That's pretty much it. Although that may be hard for some to grasp, it's so many games and yet none at all...

I guess some people just care about Katrina more than others. How this became a "Stop attacking Obsidian with passive aggressive comments to stir up drama" I'm not sure. Oh well, forum life or whatever. We can let it go one ear and out the other and continue to write I suppose without letting the emotional responses get to us. It's not a sin to be concerned about what may be happening or not happening. Discussing logically sound possibilities isn't being paranoid or stirring discord/mischief among the forums. People telling people what to do or how to act on the internet never goes over smoothly, especially when those expressing their concern are not the ones acting out of place. There is also nothing wrong with wanting to know more about something, regardless of how many of the other fans want to keep the concerned fans from doing so. What really is the big issue? Nobody wants to hear or find out something they don't like, so that is the risk that we must protect. What validates the concern is pretty much wtitten in the wall, with the common excuse of "It's normal for companies to lose and gain people". If we are being honest, it's not normal for a company to suddenly lose someone that has become as iconic as the next iconic person in staff. And realistically, we're at that point to where Katrina was known to some moreso than evem Josh Sawyer himself, before the defenses come up that this isn't true, let's not forget that Katrina became the shining face of Deadfire's backer videos. That is enough to validate the concern of any fan whosoever seems fit to deem themselves as such. Her job title seems to be another excuse I've seen flying around the net: "She wasn't as valuable as Josh or anyone else working on the game". On the contrary, she was just as valuable and it's her job title that causes this thread to be made and validated in the first place. Some people will know Katrina more than Josh, because of the videos and her having more time on them, that's common sense. From the awkwardness of Obsidian losing what is basically their spokesperson and person representing the company, the face of Obsidian (more than Josh Sawyer), it's not so out of character to conclude that there may or may not be something to be concerned about, chosing to be one and not the other doesn't make anyone's argument less sound. However, there is always the fighting excuse losing the face of Obsidian other than to give the unintelligible answer: "Sh** happens." Which makes one side seem less logical than the other simply because they cannot give a solid answer. Whatever the case, if her moving on from Obsidian is enough to cause all this then that undoubtedly proves that she really is irreplaceable, and we will certainly miss Katrina, she obviously wasn't happy there which is why she left. No harm in stating that either... If you ever read this, we wish you well Katrina! ALL THE BEST

It's just trolling if you guys disagree with it. There's no way to fight what I said, I took business classes, having a history in business is how I landed my job. So, me pointing out these simple facts of how businesses are ran didn't warrant personal attacks. After all, what I said wasn't direct attacks against Obsidian. I, too, am a fan, if I wasn't I wouldn't be buying/backing Obsidian's games. With that said, you guys are free to believe what you want. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm certainly not going to call people names just because they disagree with me or get angry. It's fine but there was nothing wrong with anything I said - though people are trying super hard to disprove it. It will just look silly to anyone who knows how businesses are ran and aren't a fan of Obsidian who come to the forum and read this.

I don't care if you're trying to make me look like the crazy preacher for stating facts on how business work, if you consider stating facts of how business works that's on you. You obviously do not know how these things work, there's no reason to get mad at me because I do. What kind of businesses are you referring to which uohold these types of contracts? Think about it carefully. And where is the proof that smaller lesser followed video game companies much like Obsidian work under such conditions or if at all. My comments certainly have a point, there's no reason to keep going off topic to try to disprove truth of how business structure works. Obsidian's moreorless generic answer of "Katrina left to persue other/better things" is not an honest answer to the public and you'd have to be crazy to think so since that is th most common answer for companies that do not want to be so transparent. So why people feel they have to defend Obsidian and try to make them look like they are being any more honest than any other business is beyond me.

You guys aren't listening lol I never said that it was all happening at Obsidian, I was simply discussing the facts of how businesses are ran. It's not speculative assumptions. I even said that my comments were not about Obsidian, so there's no reason to get defensive about it. In hindsight, you guys are actually repeating what I already said but in a way which highlights good faith in honesty from businesses. I think we can all agree that no business is to 100% honest which was my point, overall. Also, Obsidian not telling us what game company Katrina works next has nothing to do with confidentiality or legalities, they simply don't owe us anything no matter how much us fans think otherwise. Why talk about an employee you just lost and that has gone to a better job? After all, anyone can go to Katrina's twitter or facebook, etc and find out so there's that. It's not like she works for he government

Hard to say that we would know anything about it because some companies are better at handling situations better than others. I think people here are assuming that Obsidian would owe them more explantion more than they actually do. This isn't me trying to create panic over Katrina and others leaving Obsidian lol I'm just saying that people here are defending Katrina leaving as if it was a good thing for Obsidian or if it wouldn't affect Obsidian at all. Simply isn't true. It's obviously good for Katrina, since it was her decision but that's all we know. Nobody knows why exactly she left - we were only given the bleak reasoning of "She wanted to pursue other things." That is not very assuring for a positive response... no matter what perspective we choose to see it except that Katrina freed herself. Like I said, we really know nothing, exceot that which we are given. On what I know, in business, if say a woman is harassed by co-workers and decides to leave a company, it's only a 30/70 chance that the public would ever find out about it. And more likely that even the public finding about it much later, not saying this would be the case with Katrina but just a prime example. Between that there are also so much more pending variables to why we may only get a certain amount of information.