Hassat Hunter

Well, back when I backed I would have gotten the GOG edition... but now I fully go Steam with it. That's the impact of time...

It's indeed very likely that the physical disk copy needs to download a patch right out of the box. Simply no way to go around that with having a static image to print on disks and ship out and all that, while in the meantime the digital version is being worked on till it goes live on Steam/GOG.

Good points. I doubt it will be that extreme in the full version, I assume they buffed XP for the beta (no access, so can't confirm). But simply running the math (12 levels, 5% of game... multiple levels? Doesn't add up) on that should give a good impression. Another oft-repeated argument is "how does turning in a quest or exploration XP actually train me with the sword? We need combat-XP for that" which kind-of-funilly also seems to think killing stuff and then getting a better lockpicker because of that isn't equally illogical. They are all abstractions, until you start using a TES system, and I hope everyone can see horrible *that* would be in an IE-game. And I'm sure many encounters will be hard to avoid, requiring skill or walking around every time. Then 'why should I fight them' become about the true reason why one should; granting passage, character roleplay. But yeah, walking around a bear in the forest makes sense rather than 'let's kill it for 2000XP!' as in Baldur's Gate. Or charming it and let it fight for you (without "I'm not going to charm it! That cheats me out of 2000XP!) And hey, this time around you may even get a pelt or some crafting ingredients, which I think would be a better carrot than XP in the first place, and definitely a better motivational tool. *Less* bugprone. <Needs proof-reading :/

Heh, since this conflict from the start was all about misinformation, deception and the kind, would one really think that the EU would not do any less than run their own propaganda on that station rather than 'facts'? Russia is not the only trolling (EU-leaders during Kiev protests giving them a pat on the back anyone). It would really still be misinformation, lies and deceit vs. misinformation, lies and deceit it has been from the start from both sides.

Not sure if Val is still on about the 'brothers being potentially innocent'... even after they have already been killed. Quite a coincidence would it be if those brothers where just innocents framed, that apparently also had assault rifles and taken people hostage. What are the odds? You tell me, since you apparently still don't believe it, so you must think the odds of that are high... I'm sure that would wreck the havoc of all apparent 'non-violent' Islamtics. And are then used for more violence against you for being anti-Islam, used for ISIS-propeganda... you get the thing. Which IMO is a real shame since our soft West "bad boys!" approach obviously doesn't work. IMO the best thing, if they go to the Middle-east to train, don't let them back in. Yes, they might have been born in your country, they have the nationality, but if it's known they are training in Jemen, or Syria or whatever just send them back there... apparently they like it there better than with us. Solves the whole 'can't send them home, since we are their home'... nope, apparently to them we're not, so why should we act like they do? Surveilance obviously doesn't work well enough, there are many returnees that are *known*(!) to be risks. Just send them all to Syria and send our regards to Assad as he hopefully kills them all...

Holy moley... a 25 euro demo... what is this? EA? As I, too, care more for the plot than some combat mechanics I obviously not paid for that...

ECL is a nightmare to balance... I can understand why any dev wouldn't want to work the math of that kind of crap when it's much easier to just award fixed XP at intervenials. Also, with difficulty changing encounters (the first of the kind, possible thanks to objective-XP thank you!) it wouldn't really have worked well or introduced a zillion additional checks the devs needed to add to make it work properly. So, we got more allowed types of roleplaying, we got actual difficulty levels that are not *hurr... hp-bloat*, it saves the devs oodles of work and it's guaranteed to be more bugprone. So much pro's... what are the cons again? People who are upset their murdering doesn't wield XP? Well, we can't have that can we, let's throw all those pro's off the table!

Poor sod, still don't see what's going on here... there there, I wont make fun of your lack of making sense. Or understanding me apparently. Probably related. Glad to hear that... even if those devs may still be responsable for Dragon Age 2. Also explains why TOR threats it's core material like crap. KOTOR is 10 years! Yeah, give us money, we don't care about it... psssh. Most I hear from Fallout 4 is that it will be Bethesda again; so expect to downgrade your expectations...

... Hostages, carrying assault rifle... WHY DO YOU THINK HE WAS GUILTY??? I mean, I do that everytime I enter a supermarket... right? (In before all hostages where Zionist actors hired by Illumiate Majesty-12 Templar Werewolves) EDIT: Also for apparently a Gun-techie you seem to know awefully little what "Hostage Rescue Teams" do..

Heh, have to disagree there... after Athkatla BG2 becomes somewhat of an unbearable slog... it's definitely the high point of BG2. In a manner of way BG1 did it better than BG2 thusly. High-quest density areas always seem perfect to me; Athkatla, Baldur's Gate. Just compare Divinity II to it's expansion FoV, it went from above-avarage action RPG to "damn, this is amazing"... although I suppose I am somewhat of an outcast there being a MAJOR fan of the Dragon sequence at the end that apparently is universally hated (why? Why ruin Dragons for us forever )

*cough* The Old Republic *cough* Of course BioWare screwed it up bigtime, which is funny since they made KOTOR1. But hey, continue on not having a point...

You seriously think he was innocent to terrorism and hostage taking??? WHAT?

That's not what "Thinking outside the box" means Which however doesn't concile with them forming during economic good times. And yeah, there is a big difference about how those settlements are formed. Many cities have a "China-town" now. You see many natives there, many shops for everyone, people generally try to be nice to everyone, and it works just fine. Moslim-town however... not quite the same. There have been plenty of incidents in the Netherlands last few years of people rather than integrating demanding we instead subserve their opinions, and that their interpretation of stuff (which is totally incorrect too :/) is the right one and just 15million people need to deal with it. And they don't hesitate to simply ruin a children's festival for it. Not quite as bad as this incident by a long-shot, but it does show how integrating seemingly is replaced by "we came here, change for us. And we don't give a damn about your history or reasonings for holidays"... it's bound to explode sometime.

Continuing on on this way of thinking Baldur's Gate II must have STUNK BAD. Otherwise there would be a BG3 right? As for the other mentioned stuff long looooooong ago; * Divinity:Original Sin gave me a good taste, and it was free. Here it's doubling the original game. Then I rather have goodies than the beta to work for them. Call me odd... * Yes, I buy games in bargain, Steam sales etc. The amount paid for this game is excessive for my count. Sorry, not all of us can just pluck up every game they want at release. Fortunately sales and bundles leave me with plenty of games to play, and I get all games 'complete' with all DLC rather than piece-meal like people from the start. Not that bad a deal if you ask me. * Not that anyone cares but... disliked Dungeon Siege III (while liking the first 2), rather meh about Fallout: New Vegas, South Park was fun for what it was and I really loved Alpha Protocol. I probably don't need to mentioned KOTOR2. NWN2 I have on Steam and GOG (heh) but still haven't played on either... I know; shame on me...

People were saying that it was simply our CHOICE not to join in the Beta-discussions. I simply came to tell that no, that's not our *choice*, it's because we simply cannot, not having access to said beta.

It's kind of telling I see every single person with an Islamitic name on Twitter or newsreplies or facebook or whatever saying that they had it coming. They're definitely not helping with the image of a people not agreeing with their terrorists... au contraire Unless you get too annoyed and heated with one and get fired, like me... :/ As for having to go right... if all other politicians are doing absolutely nothing, and even capitulate and force Islam-rights above our own, heck yeah are we going to vote on those that disagree with that. All we need is a good, non-radical alternative, but apprently the politicians are too afraid to offer that themselves, and thus play right into the cards of neo-nazistic organisations. I can't say I like it in the least, though I see it happening and I don't see any politician actually trying to resolve this, infact they all attack the alternative and distanciate, and thus the ones that should be quelled get more and more support as time passes. Also, did I hit too close to home with my insecurity statement? After all, it's a rather odd place to defend your apparent need to own guns in a thread that's about a terrorist attack overseas.

Also want to point out a lot of us "silent minority" even if we WANT to give feedback, can't... due to paid beta. So just putting us all outside cause we simply don't have the same income as you to spend is HIGHLY insulting, just saying... EDIT: As for the "positive attitude can improve teamspirirt" mentioned last page, I can attest to that too... did a lot of work for an online-RPG, only got complains, fed up and left... on the other side TSLRCM, what now, 5 years? And still I work with joy on that whenever I feel like it.

This is disgusting. But also all this talk about "if only there were more guns" is even more disgusting. Why does every attack in another country, be it Australia or France or whatever, Americans feel the need to appolize their guns again? Is it the same reason you need to carry guns, lack of self-image, and you need to speak good for yourself. It makes me want to ask... "How did guns helped you 9/11?" "So, despite being trained and heavily armed your US Military failed in Iraq and Afghanistan. So giving every layman a gun will suddenly make them perform better?" "How did guns help the people watching The Dark Knight Rises?" "How did your guns help you in Boston? Remember they also shot an armed cop before they got shot/arrested themselves in the persuit." "How did guns save the woman shot by her 2-year old?" "How do guns help making your country the highest on gun-related crimes and deaths per 1000 inhabitants in the world" But most of all I want to say Please Shut the F Up about your insecurity, and instead focus on what happened. This isn't your gunpooching thread. There have also been several(!) instances of militia going loco and murdering off their fellow soldiers. If only they were on a place where people had weapons, and knew how to use them... oh wait... Now that hopefully this insanely inappropriate discussion is at an end, yes, I do sencirely hope that all EU countries will kick out Syria-returnees. But we all know they lack the gut to do it, and we all pay for it. If people want to be all radical and super-Islamatic, why don't just kick them out to Syria to see how FUN such a country is to live in. What, it's a freaking hellholish warzone? Well, that's what you were looking for to make out of your homenation, you big stupid ****. I'm pretty tolerative, but even I after all those many attacks this recent time I'm starting to become hateful, intollerant and suspicious of the Islamatic people. Something I would never have expected to happen. But there are a LOT of people out there giving them a bad name, it's quite obviously not a 'few people' if everyone over the world travels to Syria and they have an own personal army in Iraq. And as long as the 'imams' just say they don't relate to each terrorist attack over and over again, it doesn't really help if they don't actually help preventing people under them to radicalise. With the increasing protest in Germany (which I expect to boom), and probably similar ones coming in the other EU-nations I only hope our utterly incompetant leaders do something about it before people in objection vote for neo-nazi extreme rightwing parties just since the rest doesn't want to address anything, since that would really make Europe a worse place to be in. It's actually not that hard to see a new "Fourth Reich", but this time not the Jews but Islamitics being the target. And that's very very worrisome. EDIT: Why is tw-at censored? Eeeeeh...?

On my account "papers, please!" and "warlock" are gone... rest still there...

Well, my Papers, Please! is gone, the rest is still up

It's not that complex... the West likes the West, the East likes the East. Due to the East pro-Russian wins election, West doesn't like that and topples the government. However, unlike splitting the country in 2 (which whould be the sane thing to do with such a divided population), as happened with countries in the past, the Kiev-government insist on keeping Ukraine whole, and that leads to full out war of the West opposing the pro-Russian aligned East. If they weren't, you think Crimea wanted to seperate earlier. All the civilians you saw protesting agains the invading army, old 65+ going out blocking pantser-vehicles? Does that seem like people who want to join the West-Ukrainian thinking. But of course the reason is simple, the West-Ukraine has nothing to offer, all of it's value is in the East. So it makes sense for Kiev to go to war instead of falling appart into 2. All policial powerplay, over people's lives. And instead of calling Kiev to order for what it does, we promote it and say 'good going'... thereby commiting similar warcrimes as what we hate Assad in Syria for. As to the proposed question; I'm just fine her. Though I definitely do not agree with our politicans wholefully agree being EU-lapdogs, giving over more power and money over them even if we specifically even voted as majority not too, and then all we get is the EU just giving Kiev 14 billion for nothing. They want to give that kind of incompetance reward by giving them even more power? I'm not against military overspending of the EU (huh, what you get that from)? Just about the cost of bureacracy, incompetance, and money that just 'vanishes'... all the less power we give that rather than more the better...

@ Luckmann; Funny... I also regularly pointed out how DX -> DX:HRs difference in dishing out skillpoints totally changed the gameplay and didn't actually allow different playstyles anymore. You can probably find it in several of the XP-discussion threads around here. Also a fun anacdote to add here (that isn't in those threads), the creators of the awesome "The Nameless Mod" also thought about adding 'ghost bonus' to their mod. But in the end they got cut since it wasn't in line with the DX-philosophy. HR guys should have picked something up from them, that mod is better than a full multi-million game like Human Revolution... :/

Might aswell churn in with my copies aswell, for offer (also, please PM as I read my mail more than I read this forum): * Afterfall Insanity - Extended Edition * Penguins Arena: Sedna's World * RIP Trilogy * Anomaly 2 (great game) * Audiosurf * EVE Trial Key * MX vs ATV Reflex * Papers, Please! * Warlock: Masters of the Arcane * Zoo Park

I kinda ignored this topic, but today started reading a bit up again about the Ukrain conflict... let's see what the last headlines are; * Ukraine Military granted 100+ pantser-vehicles by president. So... while after half a YEAR we still can't prove Russian involvement, we now activelly see our retarded-EU money being spend on massive warfare. Western politicans speak shame of Russian trying to influence a country next to it, but everyone's just quite fine with countries being *far* away from it granting more than a hundred military vehicles. There's not more pressing ways to spend all that money after all. It's pretty obvious to see it's *our* money being spend there. Good going again EU, ****ing morons... * Ukrainian Military bombs city with clusterbombs, Swiss Red Cross member among casualties. Human Rights Watch confirmed this, and the article also mentions this is generally seen as a warcrime. So, why are we still supporting these people again? Speak shame if Syria commits warcrimes and demand it's surrender, but if our allies (Ugh) commit them it's all fine and dandy? Why the heck are we (the West) still supporting these people again? Do our EU-leaders want war, or are they just grossly incompetant (looking at the state of the EU and Euro, probably that). I'm kinda hoping Greece will leave the pact this month and that will send some signal throughout the region. I'm personally tired of our EU-phile politicans here wanting to shift more and more power to Brussel, and then hear on the news we need to pay them more, and they just give (GIVE!) like a billion away to Ukraine, no strings attached, and then later learn how they exactly used our generous (ugh again) gift... It's rather hard to think the people on top couldn't possible expect this while it was so very very obvious. * "NATO delivers weapons to Ukraine." Well, ****... I should have scrolled down even more... writing all this above about weaponry. :/ Are you talking about Russia now or the EU? And if during 14 years there's 6 months of economic depression (without any proof that it wont overcome this) that's suddenly overruling everything? Can you tell me how many months, years of economic depression the US or EU had these past 14 years... heck, the European Central Bank wants to take drastic measures this month since the economy of the EU has stagnated these past 10 YEARS! The US has plummeted itself into massive debts with the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, and how many times was default narrowly avoided even after Bush was surpassed by Obama? There even were a few days when everything was shut down. That's not exactly my own definition of doing a very good job or having a "good state of country"...

Even though pretty much every RPG which has used Objective XP rather than per-kill-XP has turned out to be so good they pretty much make every list of "Best RPG ever", or even "Best game ever"... :/ Who here wouldn't want a *real* Deus Ex sequel or Vampire: Bloodlines II?