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You are off topic delete this posts and begin droid discussion elsewhere This thread is for dev questioning not for such thing!

I knew that you will say this!

Hehe as always you provide us with great gags

Hello here're my three: Is game going to look at least a little more ancient than the part one (starships, clothes etc)? Will be any linear bugs with cheated duels (like Leviathan with Malak in KOTOR 1)? How look of Onderon in Tales of the Jedi influenced your vision of it? Will Onderon and walled city of Iziz in TSL remind us what we've seen in comics?

You know at least they could try to invent something new. GL in prequels didn't show us same ships as in OT. He came up with delta fighters, federation battleships etc And TOTJ starships are cool and look more powerful than KOTOR clones of GL.

KOTOR copied movies in more obvious ways (sith fighters *sigh*)

You know it would be an excellent irony to see Vrook was running things all the time. I would rather want to see Bastila in more appropriate outfit than black robes and mask.

It would be fun to see whining Ed Assner as Don Corleone of all the Sith. Maybe he was always hidden leader and Revan and Malak his lackeys whom he sent to find starforge and start next sith war? You know like Palpatine in prequels... he was talking so much about dangers of dark side to hide himself among stupid masters and was destroying order from within? To me his talk and attitude was very suspicious.

I think that masked sith is master Vrook.

Game will be better than part one. That I'm certain. Obsidian is ten times better than lazy bioware devs who just copied neverwinter nights storyline.

Let's hope that we won't witness Korriban again. KOTOR Korriban sucks.

I think that Gallo didn't have any good idea in mind so he just copied Return of the Jedi. And I don't care about storyline much since rarely storyline in games can be as good as in novels and comics. And Lucasfilm can always classify TSL as infinities. But yes I agree storyline is very unoriginal. Let's hope that it will not be a clone of another game. Like KOTOR 1...

Man educate yourself. We have image of ancient Coruscant already in TOTJ. Maybe you should read my posts more carefully to understand what I have in mind. I have in mind that devs should follow the aesthetical image of the ancient era shown in TOTJ instead of mindless copying GL movies. Coruscant 4000 years ago reminded our modern cities - like New York. It was a great metropoly but different from prequel Coruscant. And that's good becouse it must be different considering so great time distance.

TSL will reveal that for sure. Sith traditions are also important. With such philosophy you can be as well a mere dark jedi. Sith is someone who not only embrace pure power but also respect traditions of ancient sith empire that existed for 15000 years.

Vader and Palpatine belonged to New Sith Brotherhood created by Darth Bane 1000 years before them. Bane was appointed Dark Lord by sith ghosts on Dxun, the same way Exar Kun was. So as you see Exar, Bane, Palpatine and Vader are LEGAL sith lords while Revan and Malak are just leaders of military rebellion.

When you are offending Darth Vader by comparing him to some third rate character from some not so important game, real fans have to react. You leave us no choice. Other things: In times of Revan the knowledge of sith magic was definitively NOT LOST. It was only 40-50 years since downfall of Exar Kun and he taught something his army of followers. Revan wasn't strong enough to use sith magic. Bastila with her mental powers maybe but not Revan Revan and Malak were amateurs. They weren't appointed sith lords by ancient spirits like Exar and Qel Droma were. They weren't legal. End of discussion

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Exactly while Revan let Jedi to brainwash him. And that's the difference.

Thrawn ruined the Republic in six months. With veeery small fleet. It really doesn't take much strategy when you have star forge that gives one fleet after another. And besides being a skillful tactician has nothing common with being a force user. We are talking about Revan as a force user.

There is no evidence that Revan could be as powerful as Vader or Exar or Palpatine. All we know is some unreliable things we hear from game NPCs. Revan's exploits rather show him as a forceuser with moderate powers. He didn't blow up any star system like Naga Sadow or freezed entire galactic senate like Exar. He's an example of Bioware's amateur approach toward the sith aspect of SW. And none a word about this. You aren't SW fanatic I am and I rate KOTOR through the lens of books and comics and other material. And I'm not amazed by it's content. Thrawn Trilogy had better ideas. My full support. This is how I see these things It seems that on this forum there are KOTOR fans against REAL Star Wars fans! But ultimately we'll set them straight. KOTOR is only a part of Star Wars and we know Star Wars better than some kids that want to believe that they are Revan, ruler of the galaxy.

Exar is an ancient equivalent of Vader: he nearly wiped out jedi. GL had some part in creating this character. But he's still EU. Vader is classic SW character and comparing Revan to him is a blasphemy. Exar and Vader...who was more powerful? My opinion depends from my good or bad humor or many other things. In other word: it is evolving, sometimes I think Vader is most powerful, sometimes that Exar is. But they are my two favourite characters so I guess that it is not a big importance to me who of them two was more powerful Don't blame GL for everything that happens on Earth. He probably doesn't even know about existence of such game as TSL. His empire is so vast that he only knows about most general things. You can blame him that EIII game will be console-only but not for TSL release. Do you really think that he has time to care about one game?

ehhhh then let's repeat that AGAIN "If Vader survived fall into molten lava without anyone's help and later was able to exterminate jedi order (how many times do I have to repeat that) and DJ Revan almost died becouse of one shot (while Bastila wasn't scratched) that is obvious that Revan is much weaker than Vader. " It is not Revan then is a Choosen One. It is not Vader that was tricked and brainwashed. But believe in DJ Revan anyway. Considering Bastila: you can't learn battle meditation. You born with such ablility or not. Just like you born with force sensitivity or not. Ability of battle meditaion means that you are perfectly attuned to the force snd those who can't use it are beneath you.And after is 20 years old force user reach pinnacle of his force affinity. Revan already reached that pinnacle and couldn't move forward just like others-such is the nature of forceuser's life. Bastila's flourishing was still ahead of her. Try to understand this Just like Anakin Skywalker in AOTC was in the same position as Bastila: he lost easily with Dooku but he was 19 and force was still growing in him and evolving. And official site says that during clone wars he grew stronger in the force. In EIII he will reveal max of his abilities and later as Vader will not proceed further Stragate 2000: Vader was tored apart by an emotional fight. He couldn't think clear and besides Palpatine is an "ultimate sith lord of all times" (George Lucas own words) You people are childish. Stop with that sick Revan's idealizing and comparing him to classic SW characters. GL's word is holy and if GL says that Anakin is most powerful being and a choosen one that means that he is and Revan or any other fool cannot be even compared to him. FIN

If Revan would be really so powerful he would never fall on his bridge. He would anticipate Malak's attack and create a force shield around him not to mention that this looser is the only dark lord to be ever catched and brainwashed by the Jedi Council. If Vader survived fall into molten lava without anyone's help and later was able to exterminate jedi order (how many times do I have to repeat that) and DJ Revan almost died becouse of one shot (while Bastila wasn't scratched) that is obvious that Revan is much weaker than Vader. Vader slew all jedi and DJ Revan let himself be manipulated by them. But yeah believe in DJ Revan's myth Teenager Bastila would in a few years surpass DJ Revan and anyone. The fact that she could use battle meditation means that she was most powerful and best linked to the force Only most powerful forceusers can use battle meditation - Nomi Sunrider, Palpatine, Leia etc they all could use it. DJ Revan couldn't and that is all I want to know. All we know abour DJ Revan fantastic power we know from either Candeorus who doesn't understand force or stripper Yuhura or others but his exploits were in fact reduced to wise tactics and nothing more. Malak was better in lightsaber combat and game says that he proved himself in the battlefield while DJ Revan was hiding in command center and planning. The only reason why you all have for DJ Revan so much respect is that he's our avatar in game and all the time you hear how special revan is. Well I'm too intelligent to believe simple propaganda and not so big idiot to compare pathetic avatar of mine with Vader or Luke or anyone. Real Star Wars fan would never do such idiotic thing. If hero of KOTOR would be Exar Kun or Vima Sunrider or anyone and you would hear all the time how wonderful they (you) are. You would then believe that Exar/Vima/Anyone are most powerful in damn f.. universe. Geez

And me too...

You are blaspheming unlettered man.