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Nope. My game is from 3.0 originally and my Edér gets -5 AND -5 from Savage Attack. Don't know about the damage. Have to check that. Would be ok if that also gets applied twice.

I would say you have to try harder.

Oh, I didn't see that cape yet, sounds nice. Thanks for the info.

Her body armor is also good if you want to dual wield. Reach weapons and ranged seem to be a suboptimal choice though. Too bad Two weapon Style still doesn't work with bash. OBS promised it would - some time ago. Big thanks for testing!

Great - looks good. Thanks for that.

I'm using her with weapon & bash shield (Badgradr's Barricade: Thrust of Tattered Veils on crit) and she's really good. It really helps that she can't be mind controlled. Just send her first when all those stupid fampyrs and mushrooms want to draw you to the dark side of the... wheel?

Hi! When I score a crit with Badgradr's Barricade (bash), Thrust of Tattered Veils will be cast twice. Will upload a savegame soon. Who else can confirm this?

Never Mind - this was posted in the wrong forum (I have no idea why). Please remove this. You will have my eternal gratitude.

I just took a glance to the support forum: none of those issues was reported yet I think. Maybe we should do that? It seems to be important... edit: ok, I reported the things I said.

Also: Thrust of Tattered Veils procs twice when you score a crit with Badgradr's Barricade. Savage Attack gets applied twice (hover over your ACC on your char-sheet when Savage Attack is active). Something's really broken inside PoE atm...

Right. But the Golden Gaze is awesome in terms of dps and interrupts, too.

That's a big big plus for the wizard. I would only use it for spiritshift druid builds since it's possible to gain more Spiritshift uses with it. For a wizard I still prefer Golden Gaze though.

I think your list is complete. Don't know any other weapon with that "hidden" interrupt bonus.

Right! Strike Hard + Godansthunyr may be the best pair for this. The looks is good (not as weird as two spears or rapiers), they complement each other well like Vile Loner's and stunning Cladhaliath as you said and both cause longer interrupts than normal (1 sec + 0.75 sec). I think Cladhaliath only does 0.5 sec. The two damage types are also a great plus. Only thing is: they come so late. Maybe one could start with the spears and then retrain in Act III. I tried a Vile Loner build once with a durgan reinforced shield and the attack speed is high enough to interrupt-lock mobs.

I think Azurro still does that. At least he did in a 3.0 playthrough of mine (two times Rebel's Call).

Druid make better "tanks" than wizards. Tanking + Returning & Relentless Storm just add up nicely. I had a lot of fun with such a druid tank. One of my favourite builds - and very simple, too.

Dorftek HAS Rimecutter and is willing to use the Mold - it's all in the opening post. You can go to Lle a Rhemen and use the dial there to skip time really fast: just hit the "wait" option until Azurro shows up.

Duplicating Mosquito would be worth testing

Flick of the Wrist (FotW) working on soulbounds' universal weapon focus: it's not the case any more. At least last time I checked with version 3.01. Best weapon would be Drawn in Spring I guess - duplicated or with the Unlabored Blade. It's wounding enchantment stacks so dps wise this would be very powerful. Also because Daggers have an inherent +5 ACC bonus that stacks with the +4 from FotW. If you are ok with switching weapon sets then four stilettos are also very nice: first set is with Azureith's Stiletto and Bleak Fang - after they triggered their spells (which are 1/encounter), switch to dual Vent Pick (or Vent Pick with Misery's End) or something like that. Vent Pick's spell chance got fiexed in 3.02. Or duplicate Bleak Fang. It has +6 DR bypass (+11 with Vulnerable Attack) - that's pretty awesome for such a fast weapon. And it will proc Touch of Rot twice per encounter.

You can enter Act III. Who told you that nonsense? You just shouldn't jump into the pit ant the end of Act III because there's no return after that. But that's really the end of the game, before the final boss fight. Use Drawn in Spring with Badgradr's Barricade (WMI inside Durgan's Battery). It's bash attack procs Thrust of Tattered Veils on crit. No limit per encounter. Drawn in Spring is one of the best dps weapons in the game (because Wounding stacks and it's fast). And it's the only weapon that looks good with that shield. Flank and use your special attacks (Blinding Strike, Crippling Strike and so on). They will result in full attacks - that means you will hit in very quick succession with the Dagger and the Shield. Lots of the bash attacks will be crits becaue you first strike with Drawn in Spring (which has +17 ACC from the start) which will apply the affliction. Then the bash will likely be a crit and trigger the Thrust - which most of the time also is a crit and does good damage and also interrupts for 1 sec. It's one of the best setups for a defensive rogue who doesn't want to loose too much dps. I use that with the Devil of Caroc at the moment - and she survives in my fronline and does great damage at the same time. I didn't test yet if Two Weapon Style works with bash now. Does anybody know? Later on, when you find the Unlabored Blade, you could retrain to become a dual dagger guy, doing aweseome amounts of damage. Rimecutter with the that Shield may also be nice. It will lower your recovery a lot, especially with durgan steel. For pure DPS try to duplicate Rimecutter with the Mold and dual wield it. That is the best dps-setup with non-soulbound weapons that you can get while it also raises your survivability. Because with two of those you can easily reach negative recovery which means you can wear a thick armor without getting slower. You can reach 0 recovery with sabres only with Gauntlets of Swift Action and durgan steel without using Vulnerable Attack (consumables aside). That's the reason why two Rimecutters are better for DPS most of the time (if we speak about normal "non-full" attacks). Short math excursion: Two sabres: 1.15 (durgan steel on sabre 1) * 1.15 (sabre 2) * 1.15 (Gauntlets) * 1.25 (Outlander's Frenzy) + 0.2 (Two Weapon Style) = 2.10 (2 means no recovery) With Vulnerable attack you would drop under 2 (1.9) - so there will be a bit of recovery. And you can't wear any armor. Two Rimecutters: 1.15 * 1.2 (RC1) * 1.15 * 1.2 (RC2) * 1.15 (Gauntlets) * 1.25 (Outlander's Frenzy) + 0.2 (Two Weapon Style) = 2.9 (lots of "negative recovery"). With Vuln. Attack: 2.7; with a plate armor: 2.2 - still room - you could skip the Gauntlets I guess and still be near 0 recovery. You could also skip Outlander's Frenzy and wear a light armor and still be at 0. Rimecutter and Bargradr'S Barricade: 1.15 * 1.2 (RC) * 1.15 (duragen reinforced shield) * 1.15 * 1.25 + 0.2 (two weapon style with bash ???) = ~2.5, 2.3 with Vuln. Attack, still room for good armor. And you will have nice deflection and Thrust of Tattered Veils on crit. I think that's quite the nice setup. Devil of Caroc is fine. You find her in Galvino's Hut in WMI. For example she can wear Bittercut without getting affected by that poison defense debuff. As a construct, she's immune. If you want to use her, you can make her a bit sturdier so that you can send her into the fray (like I do with that shield) and then send her so attract foes. Then you can drop any poinson related spell on her (see wizard and druid). Because she's immune to that, she wil not suffer, but all enemies will die quickly. Since 3.0 quite some spells fall under that category. A lot of spells that cause corrode damage now are considered poisonous. It hink they did that to buff the mountains dwarf's racial a bit and to categorize immunities better. I also gave her Aspirant's Mark. With her aweseome rogueish ACC she will crit a lot with that and lower deflection and reflex for your comrades' spells.

Sure. With the Golden Gaze it works pretty well. Because of Driving Flight you can hit multiple targets and Exp. Vuln. will proc more often - like with Stormcaller basically (without Twinned Arrows - although Golden Gaze has that built in). Swift Aim helps with speed of course. It also stacks with the Sure-handed Ila chant. But with Vicious Aim the damage is also pretty great. Lots of crits that way. And you always have two different damage types. With Vicious Aim and Dangerous Implement you will have a damage bonus of +45% and more ACC. It's not too bad, really. You can counter the speed loss with Outlander's Frenzy - also helps with the damage a bit. It's not as good as a bow ranger with Twinned Arros, but it's viable. And Expose Vuln. is a really great spell - especially if you basically get if for free while you're doing damage. Maybe with high MIG/INT and Aspirant's Mark and so on that ranger would be a decent support/debuff/dps guy. I never used that idea for a playthrough, but I might try some day.

Just pull enemies with another char and drop prone right at the start on encounter. Now all we need is 0 recovery and max DEX in order to fit as many backstabs as possible into 6 seconds. Or we take an Island Aumaua with four arquebuses, Arms Bearer and Quickswitch plus Coil of Resourcefulness to skip recovery after shooting and do four arquebus shots with afflictions and backstab bonus - ouch!

It may not be superduperoptimal, but it's totally viable to take Secrets of Rime for a druid. You will still have access to all the other non ice spells. Most of those don't even profit from any elemental bonus damage talent. You'll have Winter Wind (which is nice), Blizzard (nice debuff on top of the damage) and Hail Storm (huge AoE). Those are nice spells for dps. I see no problem there. Actually, chanters have the most powerful freeze spells when it comes to pure damage. And they can cast it without per rest uses. But they can't spam. Wizards with Chill Fog, Shadowflame, Bitter Mooring, Freezing Pillar and Freezing Rake are also very nice.

Nice! You crafted and refined a build idea which I was thinking of from time to time. But I never had the time to do a playthrough with such a barb. I'm sure this works nicely. And the best thing is that you can get those spears early. I would recommend the Executioner's Hood (looks good with the Wayfarer's Hide) for the head slot - it has a frightening aura and that lowers enemies' concentration even further. You could skip Barbaric Yell then. Your best friends wil be priests with Painful Interdiction & Crowns for the Faithful, a Wizard with Expose Vuln. and a chanter with "Stumbling o'er words" and that Zephyr Poleaxe. You should write a PM to AndreaColumbo since he's manageing the class build index.

The original question was "pc-vs-hired-pally" by the way.